Amir Garrett

Amir is my friend from Ohio who is diehard Red fan's favorite player already. He is texting me each start. Him and his sons watching love Amir this season

I think he said Cincy doesnt come to citifield til september or something like that. I gotta check the schedule
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Poor sentence construction for your first sentence but I think I catch your drift. However, I suppose you could be friends with Amir. ;) :) :lol:
 
Amir is my friend from Ohio who is diehard Red fan's favorite player already. He is texting me each start. Him and his sons watching love Amir this season

I think he said Cincy doesnt come to citifield til september or something like that. I gotta check the schedule
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Poor sentence construction for your first sentence but I think I catch your drift. However, I suppose you could be friends with Amir. ;) :) :lol:
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I wasnt english major and dont even get me started on my spanish unless you want me using curse words Puta :)
 
Amir is my friend from Ohio who is diehard Red fan's favorite player already. He is texting me each start. Him and his sons watching love Amir this season

I think he said Cincy doesnt come to citifield til september or something like that. I gotta check the schedule
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Four game series at Citifield in early September.

Two game series at Yankee Stadium July 25-26.
 
Move along. Nothing to see here.

Tough outing so far.
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Down 6-1 after 2. Just like that, his ERA is over 4.

Eric Thames, who is on fire right now, has taken him out of the park twice in two innings.
 
A nightmare outing. 10 runs (9 earned) over 3 and 1/3 innings.

This game raises his ERA from 1.87 to 5.09. Ouch!
 
A nightmare outing. 10 runs (9 earned) over 3 and 1/3 innings.

This game raises his ERA from 1.87 to 5.09. Ouch!
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How could they leave him out there that long?
 
A nightmare outing. 10 runs (9 earned) over 3 and 1/3 innings.

This game raises his ERA from 1.87 to 5.09. Ouch!
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How could they leave him out there that long?
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His pitch count was pretty low considering the numbers (80 pitches total). Maybe they thought he might find it, and wanted to see if he could respond to the early adversity.

I'm sure that, in his next start, they'll be looking to see how he bounces back.
 
A nightmare outing. 10 runs (9 earned) over 3 and 1/3 innings.

This game raises his ERA from 1.87 to 5.09. Ouch!
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How could they leave him out there that long?
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His pitch count was pretty low considering the numbers (80 pitches total). Maybe they thought he might find it, and wanted to see if he could respond to the early adversity.

I'm sure that, in his next start, they'll be looking to see how he bounces back.
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Agree, you don't leave a rookie pitcher out there if he doesn't have it on that given night. Seems like the manager fed him to the wolves. After 5/6 runs you pull him. Its not about pitch count as much it is about confidence. I was watching the game saying why the hell is he not pulling him. Chalk that up to a bad outing and bad manager move. Amir will "rebound" on next start.
 
A nightmare outing. 10 runs (9 earned) over 3 and 1/3 innings.

This game raises his ERA from 1.87 to 5.09. Ouch!
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How could they leave him out there that long?
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His pitch count was pretty low considering the numbers (80 pitches total). Maybe they thought he might find it, and wanted to see if he could respond to the early adversity.

I'm sure that, in his next start, they'll be looking to see how he bounces back.
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Agree, you don't leave a rookie pitcher out there if he doesn't have it on that given night. Seems like the manager fed him to the wolves. After 5/6 runs you pull him. Its not about pitch count as much it is about confidence. I was watching the game saying why the hell is he not pulling him. Chalk that up to a bad outing and bad manager move. Amir will "rebound" on next start.
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Here's the manager's explanation:

"I felt bad that I had to leave him out there to give up 10 runs, but we were just really short in the bullpen today," Reds manager Bryan Price said. "You might do that to a veteran pitcher, but you hate to do that to a rookie. There were some limited options."
 
This is one reason why pitching stats are deceptive at first glance.

A hitter can bat .500 over 9 games. an 0 for 4 doesn't send his stat line into chaos.

A pitcher can have 5 great start in a row, and give up 3 runs in 35 innings. Then he gets bombed, and instead of having stats that reflect 5 quality starts out of 6, have an ERA explode. I guess that's why they measure quality starts in addition to pitcher's cumulative stats, which are much less reliable than batting statistics overall.
 
:I don't care what excuse Manager of Reds gave you can't let rookie kid get lit up like that. I hope his confidence isn't shot. I was watching to see how he would do and it was tough to watch. I would also add it looked like his velocity was way down from the first two starts. A couple of times it looked like he was hitting "only" 91 or 92 mph. In the earlier games he was more like 94-97 mph. Even more reason NOT too let him continue.
 
This is one reason why pitching stats are deceptive at first glance.

A hitter can bat .500 over 9 games. an 0 for 4 doesn't send his stat line into chaos.

A pitcher can have 5 great start in a row, and give up 3 runs in 35 innings. Then he gets bombed, and instead of having stats that reflect 5 quality starts out of 6, have an ERA explode. I guess that's why they measure quality starts in addition to pitcher's cumulative stats, which are much less reliable than batting statistics overall.
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An 0 for 4 doesn't compare even remotely with giving up 10 runs in 3 innings. An 0 - 30 would be more appropriate to explain the fairness of these stats.
 
This is one reason why pitching stats are deceptive at first glance.

A hitter can bat .500 over 9 games. an 0 for 4 doesn't send his stat line into chaos.

A pitcher can have 5 great start in a row, and give up 3 runs in 35 innings. Then he gets bombed, and instead of having stats that reflect 5 quality starts out of 6, have an ERA explode. I guess that's why they measure quality starts in addition to pitcher's cumulative stats, which are much less reliable than batting statistics overall.
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An 0 for 4 doesn't compare even remotely with giving up 10 runs in 3 innings. An 0 - 30 would be more appropriate to explain the fairness of these stats.
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I think the point is how 1 game can severely affect the stats. An 0 for 30 game would be something now, wouldn't it? He still has 3 quality starts in 4 which is pretty good.
 
This is one reason why pitching stats are deceptive at first glance.

A hitter can bat .500 over 9 games. an 0 for 4 doesn't send his stat line into chaos.

A pitcher can have 5 great start in a row, and give up 3 runs in 35 innings. Then he gets bombed, and instead of having stats that reflect 5 quality starts out of 6, have an ERA explode. I guess that's why they measure quality starts in addition to pitcher's cumulative stats, which are much less reliable than batting statistics overall.
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An 0 for 4 doesn't compare even remotely with giving up 10 runs in 3 innings. An 0 - 30 would be more appropriate to explain the fairness of these stats.
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Absolutely it does. It affects a single game - nothing more. 0 for 4 hitting into 4 inning ending double plays with the bases loaded and making 5 errors doesn't ruin your stat line for a month. That's the point. They kept him out there because the long view is to win as many games as you can and they needed him in there not to burn the bullpen so long as he was below his pitch count. It only caused one loss, and after 6 runs the outcome was no longer in doubt. A hitter who has a miserable (or great day) could still cause a loss with one failure late in the game.
 
He is dealing, but got hurt by the HR ball.

Good bounce back outting.
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7 IP, 2 R, 2 H (both solo home runs), 3 BB, 4 K. This lowers his ERA to 4.50.

He left with a 3-2 lead. Hopefully, the bullpen holds it.
 
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