About the Providence game

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Which way would you go?

Win and continue to go with the 6 man rotation, and probably be on the bubble.
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Lose the Pc game, and hope that Lavin knows that the regular season is over. So then he'd go with a 10 man rotation. Yes we'd sacrifice Wins butttttttt. Just maybe with game experience we could have some much needed depth.
And go for the B.E. title with a nice little run.

I think I'd go with an L vs. pc.but Lavin would still probably with 6.
 
So you believe we have a better chance of winning the Big East tournament with a ten man rotation that we have of getting an at large birth playing six men?

You concede that we'd be on the bubble if we continued to play six men. Why would you forego the bubble (presumably a 50-50 chance at an at large birth) and put all our hopes of making the NCAA on winning the Big East.

Even for a very good team with terrific depth, which we are not, the chances of winning a conference tournament are not great. Moreover, I don't think any rational person could possibly believe that playing the likes of Christian Jones and Felix Balamou would increase our chances to win the Big East tournament.

Respectfully, your post makes no sense.
 
So you believe we have a better chance of winning the Big East tournament with a ten man rotation that we have of getting an at large birth playing six men?

You concede that we'd be on the bubble if we continued to play six men. Why would you forego the bubble (presumably a 50-50 chance at an at large birth) and put all our hopes of making the NCAA on winning the Big East.

Even for a very good team with terrific depth, which we are not, the chances of winning a conference tournament are not great. Moreover, I don't think any rational person could possibly believe that playing the likes of Christian Jones and Felix Balamou would increase our chances to win the Big East tournament.

Respectfully, your post makes no sense.
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Jones is soft, and Balamou isn't a b.e type player, we all know that. I'm talking maybe Amar, JDR, and Stewart, ok so maybe an 8 man rotation.
Maybe Stewart can be a sleeper.
What if one of the 6 has a major injury, then we're going with a 5 man rotation. We lucked out with Harrison and Obekpa last night. But what about the next time?
 
Unfortunately the match up against providence away will likely produce another loss. In order for the team to win games in the big east rysheed has to be playing at pre nba ready level which he is obviously not so our chances are pretty slim shady going to providence. Like I said with the nova matchup (which I was right on), providence advantage will be size and depth and will likely destroy our frontline like nova and seton hall did. Cooley doing a nice job of recruiting good players to providence, unfortunately much better than lavin, Expect 0-4 start.. Will be interesting how this season turns out. Has the potential to get ugly very quickly,
 
Root for a loss? Never. This is not the NBA.or NFL.
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Yeah, I know it sounds dumb to root against SJU, but I know as long as we're in it to get to the ncaa that we'll remain six deep. Look how winded we got against SHU, Dom cramped up against Butler, we ran out of gas last night. Injury is a real possibility, heart stopped with Harrison and Obekpa getting hurt. We seen what Nova did to us when Chris and Dom fouled out.

Sorry to say it, but yes a loss might be a blessing (only if lavin would go to an 8 man rotation.) which would give others game time experience. Maybe with experience comes confidence, then who knows.
See wtf they could do. There just has to be something that someone else can do besides the first 6.
If they beat Providence trust me I won't complain, but I'll hope that some how these six guys get it done for the rest of B.E. conf play.
Now if they lose to Pc and Lavin still goes six deep then just delete this thread.

BTW I never said to root for a loss.
 
Which way would you go?

Win and continue to go with the 6 man rotation, and probably be on the bubble.
or
Lose the Pc game, and hope that Lavin knows that the regular season is over. So then he'd go with a 10 man rotation. Yes we'd sacrifice Wins butttttttt. Just maybe with game experience we could have some much needed depth.
And go for the B.E. title with a nice little run.

I think I'd go with an L vs. pc.but Lavin would still probably with 6.
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This game can easily be a loss i posted a few weeks ago 1st few games in confer will tell us where we are going? It seems sad to say we can go o-5 losing becomes contagious
 
Opponents 3 point shooting during 3 BE losses:

SH - 10-23 43%
Butler - 7-12 58%
Nova - 10-23 43%

Is it just our bad luck and these teams were all hot? Or is our 3 point D just that bad? Can we win at PC if this is not improved?
 
Which way would you go?

Win and continue to go with the 6 man rotation, and probably be on the bubble.
or
Lose the Pc game, and hope that Lavin knows that the regular season is over. So then he'd go with a 10 man rotation. Yes we'd sacrifice Wins butttttttt. Just maybe with game experience we could have some much needed depth.
And go for the B.E. title with a nice little run.

I think I'd go with an L vs. pc.but Lavin would still probably with 6.
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10 man rotation? Is this Kentucky? Did you watch last season?
 
Saw him in HS a few games last year and felt he would not have any impact at PC in year one. Nice to see "ELIGIBLE" big man being brought along and apparently developing ahead of schedule;

@CoxHub: The development of Paschal Chukwu is huge for #pcbbhttp://t.co/TogM1VDySF Freshman getting it done in last 2 gameshttp://t.co/i4XqwwpPSk
 
Opponents 3 point shooting during 3 BE losses:

SH - 10-23 43%
Butler - 7-12 58%
Nova - 10-23 43%

Is it just our bad luck and these teams were all hot? Or is our 3 point D just that bad? Can we win at PC if this is not improved?
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No bench kills every aspect of your game. Either they're to tired to guard, or they can't foul out. It's like playing with handcuffs. The players get a pass, staff does not. They can bust hump for 37 and say goodbye to a 12 pt. lead in the last 3. Most teams know who's going to be on the court down the stretch, not us.
 
Sawnhim in HS a few games last year and felt he would not have any impact at PC in year one. Nice to see "ELIGIBLE" big man being brought along and apparently developing ahead of schedule;

@CoxHub: The development of Paschal Chukwu is huge for #pcbbhttp://t.co/TogM1VDySF Freshman getting it done in last 2 gameshttp://t.co/i4XqwwpPSk
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It is nice to know that some teams in the BE do recruit players. Does the SJU coach get copied on these posts?
 
So you believe we have a better chance of winning the Big East tournament with a ten man rotation that we have of getting an at large birth playing six men?

You concede that we'd be on the bubble if we continued to play six men. Why would you forego the bubble (presumably a 50-50 chance at an at large birth) and put all our hopes of making the NCAA on winning the Big East.

Even for a very good team with terrific depth, which we are not, the chances of winning a conference tournament are not great. Moreover, I don't think any rational person could possibly believe that playing the likes of Christian Jones and Felix Balamou would increase our chances to win the Big East tournament.

Respectfully, your post makes no sense.
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Jones is soft, and Balamou isn't a b.e type player, we all know that. I'm talking maybe Amar, JDR, and Stewart, ok so maybe an 8 man rotation.
Maybe Stewart can be a sleeper.
What if one of the 6 has a major injury, then we're going with a 5 man rotation. We lucked out with Harrison and Obekpa last night. But what about the next time?
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It's only fair to the 40 minute guys to give them a blow so they don't break down. The other night vs. Nova the play dropped off when coach called on his 6th man. These guys gonna have hard time winning more then a handful of games playing 6, and the bench is not going to be much help. Nine BE wins would be a great job on the players part. We are a handicapped team in every game thats played.
 
Opponents 3 point shooting during 3 BE losses:

SH - 10-23 43%
Butler - 7-12 58%
Nova - 10-23 43%

Is it just our bad luck and these teams were all hot? Or is our 3 point D just that bad? Can we win at PC if this is not improved?
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No bench kills every aspect of your game. Either they're to tired to guard, or they can't foul out. It's like playing with handcuffs. The players get a pass, staff does not. They can bust hump for 37 and say goodbye to a 12 pt. lead in the last 3. Most teams know who's going to be on the court down the stretch, not us.
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Exactly, opponents could put 3 or 4 rested guys in there at once and not lose to much. It's a real shame we can't, and that's where it hurts.
Rested guys going up against our guys who can't catch a break.
That is on Lavin. DLo and the other 5 are trying their best and that's all you can expect from them.
 
Opponents 3 point shooting during 3 BE losses:

SH - 10-23 43%
Butler - 7-12 58%
Nova - 10-23 43%

Is it just our bad luck and these teams were all hot? Or is our 3 point D just that bad? Can we win at PC if this is not improved?
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No bench kills every aspect of your game. Either they're to tired to guard, or they can't foul out. It's like playing with handcuffs. The players get a pass, staff does not. They can bust hump for 37 and say goodbye to a 12 pt. lead in the last 3. Most teams know who's going to be on the court down the stretch, not us.
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Exactly, opponents could put 3 or 4 rested guys in there at once and not lose to much. It's a real shame we can't, and that's where it hurts.
Rested guys going up against our guys who can't catch a break.
That is on Lavin. DLo and the other 5 are trying their best and that's all you can expect from them.
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Well, who died since you predicted a minimum of a 14-4 BE record. It's razor thin, and we have to use JDR BEFORE Obekpa and Pointer get into foul trouble. We also need to offer spot minutes to at least Amar or CJ. Granted the top 6 will get the bulk of minutes, but unless Lavin finds two big men to get regular rotation minutes, there will be some very long evenings.

My bet is that Lavin finds a regular 8 man rotation, and the team gets back on track. Not top 20 back on track, but to re-enter the at large bid discussion. Maybe as soon as beating Providence up there.
 
Providence basically went with a 6 man rotation last season when Dunn was injured. It can work, but one more injury and they would have been toast. Same for us.
 
For a while there after a multi OT affair wasn't Bryce Cotton averaging over 40 minutes per game for a period?\

Edit: Just checked and he ended the season averaging 39.9 minutes per game. Insane.
 
For a while there after a multi OT affair wasn't Bryce Cotton averaging over 40 minutes per game for a period?\

Edit: Just checked and he ended the season averaging 39.9 minutes per game. Insane.
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Austor, didn't Providence have three Big East quality frontcourt players who contributed? Kadeem Batts, Ladontae Henton and Tyler Harris? Cardon Derossiers too. We have only one. That's out problem. If we had only six guys but had 3 frontcourt guys and 3 guards it would be better balanced. We have basically 5 guards and CO. Providence only had six or seven players but they had balance between the frontcourt and backcourt.
 
For a while there after a multi OT affair wasn't Bryce Cotton averaging over 40 minutes per game for a period?\

Edit: Just checked and he ended the season averaging 39.9 minutes per game. Insane.
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Austor, didn't Providence have three Big East quality frontcourt players who contributed? Kadeem Batts, Ladontae Henton and Tyler Harris? Cardon Derossiers too. We have only one. That's out problem. If we had only six guys but had 3 frontcourt guys and 3 guards it would be better balanced. We have basically 5 guards and CO. Providence only had six or seven players but they had balance between the frontcourt and backcourt.
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Dead on. We have 1 1/2 frontcourt players out of 6 in rotation, depending on how you categorize Dom. It's why I believe that Lavin must create a 7 or 8 man rotation that distributes significant playing among JDR, CJ, or Amar. It's not so much the matter of a 6 man rotation killing us but the reality that any foul trouble for CO and Pointer puts us in a hole. The key should be keeping these guys out of foul trouble by getting others minutes, not just turning to those guys when you are forced to put CO and Pointer on the bench
 
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