A 28 Year Recruiting Drought

[monte]

Sealy could shoot the lights out. Midland was pretty good also.

Minland was solid around the hoop, although undersized(and underweight) for the PF position he was asked to play much of the time. Malik great from 15 ft and in. Neither was an outside shooter though.

 

[beast of the east]

I agree with pretty much everybody. We have had some good shooters but I watch other games and some of these teams have guys where as soon as they put the ball up you say "money". We lack that guy and have for a long time. We need to find somebody that when he gets the ball on the perimeter the other team is like "oh shit". Even if he has an off day a player of that caliber gives us a mental edge and opposing coaches have to make adjustments not just sit back and dare us to make jumpers as is the case now.

We have such a guy, his name is D'angelo Harrison.
The problem is that no one else on our team demands to be guarded tightly.
On other teams all the guards and most forwards would be at a minimum adequate shooters. That would leave space for D;angelo to get open.. or even a specialist like Hooper.

Stop it. IT should be clear to all that even wide open from 22 feet, Harrison is no better than 50-50 (and that's very generous) to make a shot. He is a very good scorer, but not a very good shooter.

Guess math wasn't your best subject-an approximately 36% 3 pt shooter is 50-50 to make the shot.

I guess your concept of math is relativism. Whether the shot counts for 2 points or three points, Harrison still makes 36% of college threes. A quarter may be worth 5 nickels, but two quarters are still two quarters.

 

[Marillac]

I agree with pretty much everybody. We have had some good shooters but I watch other games and some of these teams have guys where as soon as they put the ball up you say "money". We lack that guy and have for a long time. We need to find somebody that when he gets the ball on the perimeter the other team is like "oh shit". Even if he has an off day a player of that caliber gives us a mental edge and opposing coaches have to make adjustments not just sit back and dare us to make jumpers as is the case now.

We have such a guy, his name is D'angelo Harrison.
The problem is that no one else on our team demands to be guarded tightly.
On other teams all the guards and most forwards would be at a minimum adequate shooters. That would leave space for D;angelo to get open.. or even a specialist like Hooper.

Stop it. IT should be clear to all that even wide open from 22 feet, Harrison is no better than 50-50 (and that's very generous) to make a shot. He is a very good scorer, but not a very good shooter.

Guess math wasn't your best subject-an approximately 36% 3 pt shooter is 50-50 to make the shot.

I guess your concept of math is relativism. Whether the shot counts for 2 points or three points, Harrison still makes 36% of college threes. A quarter may be worth 5 nickels, but two quarters are still two quarters.

Not quite sure what point you are making, but 36% from three is better (more total points) than 50% from two. Also, there are far more offensive rebounds from missed threes.

I think Harrison is a fine outside shooter. The degree of difficulty of his shots is pretty high. He shoots a ton of treys pulling up off the bounce and, statistically, those are far less likely to go in than set shots. He hasn't really had the luxury in his first three years, but I think he will by conference play this year.

 

[Section3]

JJ

I agree with pretty much everybody. We have had some good shooters but I watch other games and some of these teams have guys where as soon as they put the ball up you say "money". We lack that guy and have for a long time. We need to find somebody that when he gets the ball on the perimeter the other team is like "oh shit". Even if he has an off day a player of that caliber gives us a mental edge and opposing coaches have to make adjustments not just sit back and dare us to make jumpers as is the case now.

We have such a guy, his name is D'angelo Harrison.
The problem is that no one else on our team demands to be guarded tightly.
On other teams all the guards and most forwards would be at a minimum adequate shooters. That would leave space for D;angelo to get open.. or even a specialist like Hooper.

Harrison is a very good scorer but is not a lights out shooter

 

[redken]

I agree with pretty much everybody. We have had some good shooters but I watch other games and some of these teams have guys where as soon as they put the ball up you say "money". We lack that guy and have for a long time. We need to find somebody that when he gets the ball on the perimeter the other team is like "oh shit". Even if he has an off day a player of that caliber gives us a mental edge and opposing coaches have to make adjustments not just sit back and dare us to make jumpers as is the case now.

We have such a guy, his name is D'angelo Harrison.
The problem is that no one else on our team demands to be guarded tightly.
On other teams all the guards and most forwards would be at a minimum adequate shooters. That would leave space for D;angelo to get open.. or even a specialist like Hooper.

Stop it. IT should be clear to all that even wide open from 22 feet, Harrison is no better than 50-50 (and that's very generous) to make a shot. He is a very good scorer, but not a very good shooter.

Guess math wasn't your best subject-an approximately 36% 3 pt shooter is 50-50 to make the shot.

I guess your concept of math is relativism. Whether the shot counts for 2 points or three points, Harrison still makes 36% of college threes. A quarter may be worth 5 nickels, but two quarters are still two quarters.

That fuzzy math had me scratching my head as well, I think what bamafan was trying to say was that 36% for a 3-point shooter was, scoring-wise, the about the same as 50% for a 2-point shooter. (Actually it would be more like 33.3%.) As you duly noted, a 36% shooting average -- regardless of where those shots are taken from -- is still, in fact, 36% shooting, period. (Somehow I'm thinking of how Christopher Guest, in "This Is Spinal Tap," described the advantages of having a guitar amp with an 11 dial over one with a dial that goes to 10.)

 

[bamafan]

You guys are exasperating. The post stated D was no better than 50-50 to make a shot. Follow along now fellows-I said since he is a 36% overall fg shooter that math doesn't add up. Was not bringing into play anything about relative values of 2 pointers vs 3 pointers or whether the shot was taken on a Wednesday afternoon or not. Probably just wasted my time with the explanation as I don't expect any of you to get it. inch:

 

[redken]

You guys are exasperating. The post stated D was no better than 50-50 to make a shot. Follow along now fellows-I said since he is a 36% overall fg shooter that math doesn't add up. Was not bringing into play anything about relative values of 2 pointers vs 3 pointers or whether the shot was taken on a Wednesday afternoon or not. Probably just wasted my time with the explanation as I don't expect any of you to get it. inch:

Whatever. I'm too busy turning my guitar amp up to 11 to worry about shooting percentages. B)

 

[beast of the east]

You guys are exasperating. The post stated D was no better than 50-50 to make a shot. Follow along now fellows-I said since he is a 36% overall fg shooter that math doesn't add up. Was not bringing into play anything about relative values of 2 pointers vs 3 pointers or whether the shot was taken on a Wednesday afternoon or not. Probably just wasted my time with the explanation as I don't expect any of you to get it. inch:

I said he was no better than 50-50 to make a WIDE OPEN three point shot.

 

[Ray Morgan]

You guys are exasperating. The post stated D was no better than 50-50 to make a shot. Follow along now fellows-I said since he is a 36% overall fg shooter that math doesn't add up. Was not bringing into play anything about relative values of 2 pointers vs 3 pointers or whether the shot was taken on a Wednesday afternoon or not. Probably just wasted my time with the explanation as I don't expect any of you to get it. inch:

I said he was no better than 50-50 to make a WIDE OPEN three point shot.

If he just stuck to wide open 3s, he would lead the nation in 3 point fg%.

 

[bamafan]

You guys are exasperating. The post stated D was no better than 50-50 to make a shot. Follow along now fellows-I said since he is a 36% overall fg shooter that math doesn't add up. Was not bringing into play anything about relative values of 2 pointers vs 3 pointers or whether the shot was taken on a Wednesday afternoon or not. Probably just wasted my time with the explanation as I don't expect any of you to get it. inch:

I said he was no better than 50-50 to make a WIDE OPEN three point shot.

If he just stuck to wide open 3s, he would lead the nation in 3 point fg%.

He does that now, when do you see him taking contested 3s. Listen, I love his form and rotation fact is his 3 pt% is just not very good and yet I continue to feel he will make it whenever he takes a 3 because he looks good doing it.

 

[westchesterjoe]

Harrison is a scorer. HE HAS WAY TOO MANY 3-13, 4-12 5-16 games in his career resume to be thought of as a great shooter.

That being said, for his career here we haven't had any real outside threat and he's probably the best long range option on a team of athletes. I can't believe I'm saying this but, GREEN 4 has become a decent shooter, usually within 3 point line.. But, again i wouldn't define him as a money outside shooter and his % isn't all that good.. Phil is a role player and a decent one but, not a game changer.

I'm surprised Jordan hasn't yet seemed to be a confident shooter either. it is a facet of his game that he needs to improve if he is going NBA. And, he also misses a fair amount of drives down the lane, if you watch closely. STILL, HE IS A BIG TALENT.