8th Player Added

"All the ones that are talking bad about me, keep talkin I'm not lettin this get me down, I'm still #stjbb I'll be there soon!!" - @amir_garrett

I don't think he's leaving us for the Reds.

"#stjbb added Jamal White to scholarship & now has 8 total players on ship for 1st semester" - @adamzagoria

Anyone have any info on the aforementioned Jamal White?
 

Jamal has been a walkon for a couple years.
 


Is he 6 foot 9 and can rebound?
 

Sadly no

Is he Pelle, no! This will be a 7 man rotation very early on and Jamal will be the 8th man. Not bad. he was a terrific scorer in high school btw! By January this team will add one or two players and we can all calm down.
  
 

What else can you share about White and HS?

And how is team going to add to 1 or 2 players outside of these possible 3?
 

Jamal played in a lower tier league on Long Island but he regularly scored 30+ per game but more importantly he was an honor student and the kid lives and breathes SJ basketball. Thus he was warded the open ship. I am very confident that at least one of the three will become eligible by December and there are no restrictions for post high school kids who are eligible to enroll and play at colleges at mid year. Lav and his staff will have a deeper team for BE play, trust me.
 
 Gotta love Amir Garrett though. He's hot heart, guts and bleeds SJU even before stepping on campus. Kid is already a pro baseballer and is determined to be here. I have no doubt he will be here second semester.
 
 Gotta love Amir Garrett though. He's hot heart, guts and bleeds SJU even before stepping on campus. Kid is already a pro baseballer and is determined to be here. I have no doubt he will be here second semester.
 
Ditto mcnpa. I believe Garret and Pelle will both be suiting up for sju in late december. Unfortunately i think we lose Sampson.

Question- If sampson bolts today can Lavin use his 'ship on a "big" that can suit up right away for sju? TIA.
 
 Gotta love Amir Garrett though. He's hot heart, guts and bleeds SJU even before stepping on campus. Kid is already a pro baseballer and is determined to be here. I have no doubt he will be here second semester.
 
Ditto mcnpa. I believe Garret and Pelle will both be suiting up for sju in late december. Unfortunately i think we lose Sampson.

Question- If sampson bolts today can Lavin use his 'ship on a "big" that can suit up right away for sju? TIA.

JaKarr is heartbroken from what I hear. There are a lot of things going on with him now and he obviously is reaching out to cope. I will tell you that he made some friends at St. John's who have been in touch with him and are being supportive. Of the three, he was the most sensitive. Pelle and Garrett are hard-nosed ballers and will be ok. 
 
"All the ones that are talking bad about me, keep talkin I'm not lettin this get me down, I'm still #stjbb I'll be there soon!!" - @amir_garrett

I don't think he's leaving us for the Reds.

"#stjbb added Jamal White to scholarship & now has 8 total players on ship for 1st semester" - @adamzagoria

Anyone have any info on the aforementioned Jamal White?
 

Jamal has been a walkon for a couple years.
 


Is he 6 foot 9 and can rebound?
 

Sadly no
 


I figured that. What's your guess 1 out of the 3 qualify for Dec?
 
Lav will have to go way back and review coach Wooden's strategies with his 1964 NCAA champ team. I may be wrong but that team was the smallest in Wooden's storied tenure and they had a 6'7 skinny center and a three guard offense and those guards rebounded the heck out of the ball! The first ten games this year will test our coaches creativeness and we will be underdogs in most games. Sometimes a baptism by fire makes some players mature very quickly and by 2012-13 we may have a top 10 national contender!!
 
Lav will have to go way back and review coach Wooden's strategies with his 1964 NCAA champ team. I may be wrong but that team was the smallest in Wooden's storied tenure and they had a 6'7 skinny center and a three guard offense and those guards rebounded the heck out of the ball! The first ten games this year will test our coaches creativeness and we will be underdogs in most games. Sometimes a baptism by fire makes some players mature very quickly and by 2012-13 we may have a top 10 national contender!!
 

Different game back then, class of 72. Tough to compare.

Somebody (might have been you) actually mentioned our 2000 team, which had 8 scholorship players, nobody over 6'6", only went 7 deep, and won the Big East Tournament. That's a better model to go by, only problems are:

1. That was a mostly experienced group, that had been through the wars, so to say.

and:

2. The Big East as a whole was down that year. Certianly not the case this year.

All I was doing was presenting a scenerio that, however unlikley, I could see possibly happening. I'm hoping that everything plays out the way that you say it will.
 
 http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/10/16/former-st-johns-walk-on-one-of-the-luckiest-guys-in-america/


Former St. John’s Walk-On ‘One of the Luckiest Guys in America’

By Adam Zagoria on October 16, 2011, 3:45PM


NEW YORK – Jamal White didn’t have a single Division 1 scholarship offer coming out of Roosevelt High School on Long Island.

So when St. John’s coach Steve Lavin told the 6-foot-4 White he was giving him a scholarship for the upcoming season, White immediately called his girlfriend and then his mother, Deborah.

“They hung up the phone on me and when I got home, they just jumped on me,” White, 21, told SNY.tv during an interview Friday after Midnight Madness. “They didn’t believe it. We all [were] pretty ecstatic.”

Because three St. John’s freshmen — Amir Garrett, Norvel Pelle and JaKarr Sampson — were declared academically ineligible by the NCAA Sept. 15, the Johnnies were down to just seven scholarship players entering the season.

White, a walk-on who transferred from LIU after the 2008-9 season, was then put on scholarship as the eighth player on the roster. Almost by definition, he will be in the rotation when the season begins Nov. 7 against William & Mary.

He will probably also get thrown into the fire against Arizona Nov. 17 and at Kentucky Dec. 1.

“He’s going to have a shot,” St. John’s assistant Rico Hines said. “He’s probably one of the luckiest guys in America right now, you know what I mean? Who wouldn’t want to have a chance to be on the stage that we’re on?”

Said White: “Honestly, I’ll play whatever they put me as. Whatever position they put me as, long as I’m playing.”

As a senior at Roosevelt in 2007-8, White was selected to the All-Long Island team after averaging 26 points, 10 assists, 8 steals and 4 blocks. He once scored 45 points in a game against West Hempstead.

Still, he didn’t have a single scholarship offer.

“No, not at all,” he said.

He ended up at LIU “because I didn’t have a school to go to by the time August came around,” he said.

During the 2008-9 season, White played in just five games for LIU, tallying nine minutes. He didn’t even play against St. John’s in the season opener that November.

After sitting out the following season per NCAA transfer rules, White got into just two games last year when St. John’s made the NCAA Tournament for the first time since 2002. He failed to score a single point.

Still, assistant coach Rico Hines said Lavin was considering giving White a scholarship even before the three players were ruled ineligible because he had worked hard to lose weight and prove he belonged in the Big East.

“I came to Jamal before the season even started, before we even knew that those guys weren’t going to be eligible, and I said, ‘Lav’s been asking about you a lot, and I told him you were doing a good job and he’s probably going to give you a scholarship,’” Hines related.

Having played for Lavin at UCLA, Hines knew that the coach had a habit of handing out scholarships to walk-ons when they became available.

“He’s always given scholarships to guys if there was a scholarship left over,” Hines said. “With that being said, he would start those guys sometimes over Dan Gadzuric or myself sometimes. He would start those walks-on over those guys.”

So White was in the right place at the right time, and he made the most of of his opportunity.

“Honestly, I just worked hard and [Lavin] liked what he saw and that’s about it,” White said. “Thank God for Coach Lavin.”
 
 Gotta love Amir Garrett though. He's hot heart, guts and bleeds SJU even before stepping on campus. Kid is already a pro baseballer and is determined to be here. I have no doubt he will be here second semester.
 
Ditto mcnpa. I believe Garret and Pelle will both be suiting up for sju in late december. Unfortunately i think we lose Sampson.

Question- If sampson bolts today can Lavin use his 'ship on a "big" that can suit up right away for sju? TIA.

JaKarr is heartbroken from what I hear. There are a lot of things going on with him now and he obviously is reaching out to cope. I will tell you that he made some friends at St. John's who have been in touch with him and are being supportive. Of the three, he was the most sensitive. Pelle and Garrett are hard-nosed ballers and will be ok. 

That is too bad. I want to see him here. Just don't really care for the immediate re-opening of his recruitment. It's not like Lavin and Co. weren't diligently trying to get the kid eligible to play here this fall. It was in Jakarr's court. I'd still like to see him on board. I'd have no problem taking him in 2012 as a freshman if he gets his work done this year. I would just like to have him stay committed to SJU and not have to go through a re-recruitment process. Loyalty is an important trait. 
 
 From reading the Jamal White story above. And hearing Nuri and Amir always mentioning the word family. I really like the direction this program is pointed. For the decade prior I don't think we had that type of feel around the program. Well maybe a dysfunctional family ;)
 
 From reading the Jamal White story above. And hearing Nuri and Amir always mentioning the word family. I really like the direction this program is pointed. For the decade prior I don't think we had that type of feel around the program. Well maybe a dysfunctional family ;)
 

Agree and it's a credit to Lavin. It's his modus operandi wrt his recruitment of players all the way throughout to former players, coaches etc. He's trying to build a family, a brand and a network. It will make our basketball brand and program all that much stronger down the line. Its also why I'd absolutely loveto keep ALL of Lavin's first recruiting class together including Jakarr. I hope he shuts down his open recruitment and concentrates on getting qualified for the SJU 2012 class. They started something and I'd love to see them all finish it. It would be great.
 
 I continue to see White listed as 6'4 but in the pictures he is shorter than deangelo.
 
 I continue to see White listed as 6'4 but in the pictures he is shorter than deangelo.
Let's get the CSI guys on this stat! The regular, NY and Miami teams will be necessary to get to the bottom of this mystery asap. Just kidding mase. :)  
 
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