jerseyshorejohnny
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Was Frank Alagia a 5 star ?
It seemed "everyone" was recruiting him back in the day
It seemed "everyone" was recruiting him back in the day
40 Years Of Recruiting: Has That Much Changed?
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In Alagia's time I don't believe the numerical 5 4 3 was used by evaluators. I have some old recruiting magazines, 1981 and later published by Bob Gibbons a southern high school evaluator who assigned values to the grads from 1 to 150 , Jordan was 1, Ewing 3, Mullin 22. After the top 150 he assigned three or two stars for the next couple of hundred.
I don't think Alegia would have been in the top 50 but him and Beaver Smith were rated very high at the time considering the lack of competition on LI at the time. It was all NYC. I don't recall when the 5 4 , 3 rating system started.
I don't think Alegia would have been in the top 50 but him and Beaver Smith were rated very high at the time considering the lack of competition on LI at the time. It was all NYC. I don't recall when the 5 4 , 3 rating system started.
jerseyshorejohnny
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[quote="Enright" post=319969]In Alagia's time I don't believe the numerical 5 4 3 was used by evaluators. I have some old recruiting magazines, 1981 and later published by Bob Gibbons a southern high school evaluator who assigned values to the grads from 1 to 150 , Jordan was 1, Ewing 3, Mullin 22. After the top 150 he assigned three or two stars for the next couple of hundred.
I don't think Alegia would have been in the top 50 but him and Beaver Smith were rated very high at the time considering the lack of competition on LI at the time. It was all NYC. I don't recall when the 5 4 , 3 rating system started.[/quote]
Remember back then it seemed that they both were both featured in Newsday on a daily basis
For some reason I thought Frankie had over 200 scholarship offers
It could be "urban myth" and/or my memory playing tricks on me.
I don't think Alegia would have been in the top 50 but him and Beaver Smith were rated very high at the time considering the lack of competition on LI at the time. It was all NYC. I don't recall when the 5 4 , 3 rating system started.[/quote]
Remember back then it seemed that they both were both featured in Newsday on a daily basis
For some reason I thought Frankie had over 200 scholarship offers
It could be "urban myth" and/or my memory playing tricks on me.
So, getting back to the topic, one thing that has changed is the openness of the cheating that goes on in college basketball. That nonsense with no-show classes at North Carolina and the NCAA's blind eye is shocking. Now we have players being paid to go to a specific university.
There, got that off my chest.
There, got that off my chest.
One can write an entire PHD thesis on what has changed. There have been many great articles written on this subject.
In short NYC itself has changed. This is not a hotbed of talent any longer. Basketball courts in the summertime are empty. Kids stay indoors to play video games. Rich elite are moving in and gentrifying neighborhoods for good or for bad and pushing blue collar people out.
Before SJU could rely on local kids and that was enough but the dynamics are totally different now. Regardless of the dorms, SJU is still a commuter school, it takes a certain type of student to come here as an athlete. You are really not getting a typical American college experience attending SJU which is what most 18 year olds want.
Athletes at other top DI schools are treated like rock stars by the student body. I do not think the same applies at a commuter school. I respect the kids that decide to play in this program. I highly doubt a Justin Simon or Marvin Clark ever heard of SJU or its history before they wanted to transfer.
SJU also doesn't have the money or boosters to compete. We will never be a Duke. We can be competitive and be in the tournament every year but it's unrealistic to think that we can always be a sweet 16 team with the un-level playing field presented. I highly doubt Looie would have been able to duplicate the success he had if he was coaching now.
In short NYC itself has changed. This is not a hotbed of talent any longer. Basketball courts in the summertime are empty. Kids stay indoors to play video games. Rich elite are moving in and gentrifying neighborhoods for good or for bad and pushing blue collar people out.
Before SJU could rely on local kids and that was enough but the dynamics are totally different now. Regardless of the dorms, SJU is still a commuter school, it takes a certain type of student to come here as an athlete. You are really not getting a typical American college experience attending SJU which is what most 18 year olds want.
Athletes at other top DI schools are treated like rock stars by the student body. I do not think the same applies at a commuter school. I respect the kids that decide to play in this program. I highly doubt a Justin Simon or Marvin Clark ever heard of SJU or its history before they wanted to transfer.
SJU also doesn't have the money or boosters to compete. We will never be a Duke. We can be competitive and be in the tournament every year but it's unrealistic to think that we can always be a sweet 16 team with the un-level playing field presented. I highly doubt Looie would have been able to duplicate the success he had if he was coaching now.
[quote="Roamer" post=320095]One can write an entire PHD thesis on what has changed. There have been many great articles written on this subject.
In short NYC itself has changed. This is not a hotbed of talent any longer. Basketball courts in the summertime are empty. Kids stay indoors to play video games. Rich elite are moving in and gentrifying neighborhoods for good or for bad and pushing blue collar people out.
Before SJU could rely on local kids and that was enough but the dynamics are totally different now. Regardless of the dorms, SJU is still a commuter school, it takes a certain type of student to come here as an athlete. You are really not getting a typical American college experience attending SJU which is what most 18 year olds want.
Athletes at other top DI schools are treated like rock stars by the student body. I do not think the same applies at a commuter school. I respect the kids that decide to play in this program. I highly doubt a Justin Simon or Marvin Clark ever heard of SJU or its history before they wanted to transfer.
SJU also doesn't have the money or boosters to compete. We will never be a Duke. We can be competitive and be in the tournament every year but it's unrealistic to think that we can always be a sweet 16 team with the un-level playing field presented. I highly doubt Looie would have been able to duplicate the success he had if he was coaching now.[/quote]
Great points. I've constantly made the "rock stars" point on here because I witnessed it first hand at UConn. You simply will not get the same campus experience at a commuter school.
Also, living here in the city so long, I've often observed the basketball courts being empty in Summer. In fact many times I'd go out for pickup games and it would be against old timers. My question though is, isn't that phenomenon present in every city and not just NY?
In short NYC itself has changed. This is not a hotbed of talent any longer. Basketball courts in the summertime are empty. Kids stay indoors to play video games. Rich elite are moving in and gentrifying neighborhoods for good or for bad and pushing blue collar people out.
Before SJU could rely on local kids and that was enough but the dynamics are totally different now. Regardless of the dorms, SJU is still a commuter school, it takes a certain type of student to come here as an athlete. You are really not getting a typical American college experience attending SJU which is what most 18 year olds want.
Athletes at other top DI schools are treated like rock stars by the student body. I do not think the same applies at a commuter school. I respect the kids that decide to play in this program. I highly doubt a Justin Simon or Marvin Clark ever heard of SJU or its history before they wanted to transfer.
SJU also doesn't have the money or boosters to compete. We will never be a Duke. We can be competitive and be in the tournament every year but it's unrealistic to think that we can always be a sweet 16 team with the un-level playing field presented. I highly doubt Looie would have been able to duplicate the success he had if he was coaching now.[/quote]
Great points. I've constantly made the "rock stars" point on here because I witnessed it first hand at UConn. You simply will not get the same campus experience at a commuter school.
Also, living here in the city so long, I've often observed the basketball courts being empty in Summer. In fact many times I'd go out for pickup games and it would be against old timers. My question though is, isn't that phenomenon present in every city and not just NY?
[quote="Roamer" post=320095]One can write an entire PHD thesis on what has changed. There have been many great articles written on this subject.
In short NYC itself has changed. This is not a hotbed of talent any longer. Basketball courts in the summertime are empty. Kids stay indoors to play video games. Rich elite are moving in and gentrifying neighborhoods for good or for bad and pushing blue collar people out.
Before SJU could rely on local kids and that was enough but the dynamics are totally different now. Regardless of the dorms, SJU is still a commuter school, it takes a certain type of student to come here as an athlete. You are really not getting a typical American college experience attending SJU which is what most 18 year olds want.
Athletes at other top DI schools are treated like rock stars by the student body. I do not think the same applies at a commuter school. I respect the kids that decide to play in this program. I highly doubt a Justin Simon or Marvin Clark ever heard of SJU or its history before they wanted to transfer.
SJU also doesn't have the money or boosters to compete. We will never be a Duke. We can be competitive and be in the tournament every year but it's unrealistic to think that we can always be a sweet 16 team with the un-level playing field presented. I highly doubt Looie would have been able to duplicate the success he had if he was coaching now.[/quote]
According to stat I just found, 71% of St.. John’s students still commute.
But back in the day, with Fraternities, Sororities, Clubs, ‘Societies’, et al, I recall a solid ‘college’ atmosphere.
Guess not comparable to Leafy U.
Oh well.
But I do think our goal and expectation should be to make the tournament most every year, and get lucky every so often.
Lol.
In short NYC itself has changed. This is not a hotbed of talent any longer. Basketball courts in the summertime are empty. Kids stay indoors to play video games. Rich elite are moving in and gentrifying neighborhoods for good or for bad and pushing blue collar people out.
Before SJU could rely on local kids and that was enough but the dynamics are totally different now. Regardless of the dorms, SJU is still a commuter school, it takes a certain type of student to come here as an athlete. You are really not getting a typical American college experience attending SJU which is what most 18 year olds want.
Athletes at other top DI schools are treated like rock stars by the student body. I do not think the same applies at a commuter school. I respect the kids that decide to play in this program. I highly doubt a Justin Simon or Marvin Clark ever heard of SJU or its history before they wanted to transfer.
SJU also doesn't have the money or boosters to compete. We will never be a Duke. We can be competitive and be in the tournament every year but it's unrealistic to think that we can always be a sweet 16 team with the un-level playing field presented. I highly doubt Looie would have been able to duplicate the success he had if he was coaching now.[/quote]
According to stat I just found, 71% of St.. John’s students still commute.
But back in the day, with Fraternities, Sororities, Clubs, ‘Societies’, et al, I recall a solid ‘college’ atmosphere.
Guess not comparable to Leafy U.
Oh well.
But I do think our goal and expectation should be to make the tournament most every year, and get lucky every so often.
Lol.
Ray Morgan
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[quote="Steve Knortz" post=319994]So, getting back to the topic, one thing that has changed is the openness of the cheating that goes on in college basketball. That nonsense with no-show classes at North Carolina and the NCAA's blind eye is shocking. Now we have players being paid to go to a specific university.
There, got that off my chest.[/quote]
It's important you recognize what many people let fly right by them. Just one thing worth expanding upon. There were always players that were paid to go to specific schools. St. John's paid legally with the stipend. I always wondered why some players, at 19 or 20, drove a brand new BMW. Then I heard about the stipend for housing that was allowed, even if the student decided to live at home and commute to the campus. So many things make it an uneven playing field. All the staff can do is outwork everyone. Or at least work as hard.
There, got that off my chest.[/quote]
It's important you recognize what many people let fly right by them. Just one thing worth expanding upon. There were always players that were paid to go to specific schools. St. John's paid legally with the stipend. I always wondered why some players, at 19 or 20, drove a brand new BMW. Then I heard about the stipend for housing that was allowed, even if the student decided to live at home and commute to the campus. So many things make it an uneven playing field. All the staff can do is outwork everyone. Or at least work as hard.
Ray Morgan
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[quote="jerseyshorejohnny" post=319977][quote="Enright" post=319969]In Alagia's time I don't believe the numerical 5 4 3 was used by evaluators. I have some old recruiting magazines, 1981 and later published by Bob Gibbons a southern high school evaluator who assigned values to the grads from 1 to 150 , Jordan was 1, Ewing 3, Mullin 22. After the top 150 he assigned three or two stars for the next couple of hundred.
I don't think Alegia would have been in the top 50 but him and Beaver Smith were rated very high at the time considering the lack of competition on LI at the time. It was all NYC. I don't recall when the 5 4 , 3 rating system started.[/quote]
Remember back then it seemed that they both were both featured in Newsday on a daily basis
For some reason I thought Frankie had over 200 scholarship offers
It could be "urban myth" and/or my memory playing tricks on me.[/quote]
I remember back then, when people like us read the papers, the 200 scholly offers referred to the number of letters from schools a high school player received. Without the internet tracking every true offer, it's hard to say who received what. I remember Alagia being a nice recruit, and Smith as well. Today, with so many more schools fighting for players, the type of players we used to get are tempted to leave NY, or already left NY for their senior season. Even high schools are recruiting these days.
I don't think Alegia would have been in the top 50 but him and Beaver Smith were rated very high at the time considering the lack of competition on LI at the time. It was all NYC. I don't recall when the 5 4 , 3 rating system started.[/quote]
Remember back then it seemed that they both were both featured in Newsday on a daily basis
For some reason I thought Frankie had over 200 scholarship offers
It could be "urban myth" and/or my memory playing tricks on me.[/quote]
I remember back then, when people like us read the papers, the 200 scholly offers referred to the number of letters from schools a high school player received. Without the internet tracking every true offer, it's hard to say who received what. I remember Alagia being a nice recruit, and Smith as well. Today, with so many more schools fighting for players, the type of players we used to get are tempted to leave NY, or already left NY for their senior season. Even high schools are recruiting these days.
Adapting to change is key. Providence for example takes a geographic approach, which is somewhat new there. Jeff Battle has excellent AAU contacts in the South and if you look at the PC roster you will see kids from Virginia, South Carolina, Maryland, etc. Brian Balaney & Cooley himself have such contacts in New England area. Both guys btw have done an excellent job identifying those three star types with upside, but still sprinkle in the Dunn’s & Reeves of the world.
I like that approach & the absurdity of relying on one recruiter for Johnnies is obvious imo.
I like that approach & the absurdity of relying on one recruiter for Johnnies is obvious imo.
There is no excuse for St John’s not to have a consistent Winning BB program . While Villanova , Xavier and Marquette have had the most success of Late , it doesn’t assign us to always second tier .Providence won the BE Tourney a few years ago and certainly we can compete with them and every other BE Team . Or , should be able to . Ewing got those 2 Smurf sized guards , Akingo and McClung who are going to be nightmares to play against as they develop further . I seriously doubt Ewing was on those players because they were on some top 100 list ? Yet, they are now big time Starters . Providence and DePaul , Seton Hall aren’t getting top 25-50 players usually either . Neither is Butler . Or , Creighton . Marquette got Joey Hauser because of his Brother , Sam ., Bothom Line we ought to be able to get solid , BE Skilled players , nearly every year ..Even to upgrade the quality of our Bench .
[quote="Paultzman" post=320139]Adapting to change is key. Providence for example takes a geographic approach, which is somewhat new there. Jeff Battle has excellent AAU contacts in the South and if you look at the PC roster you will see kids from Virginia, South Carolina, Maryland, etc. Brian Balaney & Cooley himself have such contacts in New England area. Both guys btw have done an excellent job identifying those three star types with upside, but still sprinkle in the Dunn’s & Reeves of the world.
I like that approach & the absurdity of relying on one recruiter for Johnnies is obvious imo.[/quote]
It amazes me, and maybe it shouldn't anymore, that this is still a consideration (and it is) almost 48 months into this regime. Recruiting is such a challenging grind that it drives people out of the profession almost single-handedly. It is such a comprehensive effort and so competitive that even with a complete and seasoned staff spending 250+ days a year on the road you might still be behind the eight ball because as you note Paultz others are finding ways to do it better.
Seems so often that even when well-intentioned SJU makes things 20% harder than they need to be. Whether it's recruiting, roster management, in games, etc. You wonder what the cumulative effect of all of that is related to what the win total is vs. what win total could be, especially when 1-2 wins can be a difference.
For sure grass is not always greener which is one of primary reasons I still hope this staff gets it done bigtime, perceived inefficiencies notwithstanding. We've sat through many worse seasons than 16-6/4-5 going into the #16 team in the country feeling like we have a real chance to win the game. And for me it's whether they build a winner that a coaching staff gets evaluated on, not how they get there. On the former right now think the staff gets a passing grade, even if not always convincingly.
That said, I don't think that reasonable success to date or the fact that another staff might be worse are excuses not to optimize, and it just seems like we leave so much of that on the table.
I like that approach & the absurdity of relying on one recruiter for Johnnies is obvious imo.[/quote]
It amazes me, and maybe it shouldn't anymore, that this is still a consideration (and it is) almost 48 months into this regime. Recruiting is such a challenging grind that it drives people out of the profession almost single-handedly. It is such a comprehensive effort and so competitive that even with a complete and seasoned staff spending 250+ days a year on the road you might still be behind the eight ball because as you note Paultz others are finding ways to do it better.
Seems so often that even when well-intentioned SJU makes things 20% harder than they need to be. Whether it's recruiting, roster management, in games, etc. You wonder what the cumulative effect of all of that is related to what the win total is vs. what win total could be, especially when 1-2 wins can be a difference.
For sure grass is not always greener which is one of primary reasons I still hope this staff gets it done bigtime, perceived inefficiencies notwithstanding. We've sat through many worse seasons than 16-6/4-5 going into the #16 team in the country feeling like we have a real chance to win the game. And for me it's whether they build a winner that a coaching staff gets evaluated on, not how they get there. On the former right now think the staff gets a passing grade, even if not always convincingly.
That said, I don't think that reasonable success to date or the fact that another staff might be worse are excuses not to optimize, and it just seems like we leave so much of that on the table.
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Ray Morgan
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The measuring stick for St. John's should be Georgetown. Not a football school, not much recent success, a head coach with no experience as a head coach anywhere. These are the excuses given for Mullin's difficulty in landing recruits right out of high school. They should apply equally to Georgetown as well. Except Ewing recruited 3 promising freshman, including Leblanc. Lavin, for whatever it's worth, said that Leblanc has NBA potential. So the lack of head coaching experience for Ewing hasn't hurt, unless you think his years as an assistant gives him a much stronger base than Mullin. I'm not so sure it's that.
Ray, Ewing spent most of the past 15 years on an NBA bench so while he may not have HC experience at least he was right there alongside a number of HC's. This is the great flaw of the Mulliin/Richmond/St Jean side of the staff equation/experiment. They came in with NO experience as a coach, NO experience as a recruiter, and NO ONE to hold them accountable. At least in the original plan there were two recruiters, though it seems one might have been a bit of a dinosaur with a spotty recent employment history.
Ewing also has Louis Orr by his side, a guy with 13 years HC experience, and Kirby, a 33 year assistant coach, even Waheed has 16 years as an AC. Really there's no comparison.
Ewing also has Louis Orr by his side, a guy with 13 years HC experience, and Kirby, a 33 year assistant coach, even Waheed has 16 years as an AC. Really there's no comparison.
Ray Morgan
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[quote="austour" post=320174]Ray, Ewing spent most of the past 15 years on an NBA bench so while he may not have HC experience at least he was right there alongside a number of HC's. This is the great flaw of the Mulliin/Richmond/St Jean side of the staff equation/experiment. They came in with NO experience as a coach, NO experience as a recruiter, and NO ONE to hold them accountable. At least in the original plan there were two recruiters, though it seems one might have been a bit of a dinosaur with a spotty recent employment history.
Ewing also has Louis Orr by his side, a guy with 13 years HC experience, and Kirby, a 33 year assistant coach, even Waheed has 16 years as an AC. Really there's no comparison.[/quote]
When the SJU staff was assembled, it included Slice and his time as a head coach and years as a high profile assistant, and Matt, who was young and less experienced but already a solid recruiter. I don't know what, if anything, Slice did here, but we all know that most coaches would not have had the power that Mullin has had to put together a staff as he pleased. What happens after the season should be interesting.
Ewing also has Louis Orr by his side, a guy with 13 years HC experience, and Kirby, a 33 year assistant coach, even Waheed has 16 years as an AC. Really there's no comparison.[/quote]
When the SJU staff was assembled, it included Slice and his time as a head coach and years as a high profile assistant, and Matt, who was young and less experienced but already a solid recruiter. I don't know what, if anything, Slice did here, but we all know that most coaches would not have had the power that Mullin has had to put together a staff as he pleased. What happens after the season should be interesting.
[quote="Ray Morgan" post=320195][quote="austour" post=320174]Ray, Ewing spent most of the past 15 years on an NBA bench so while he may not have HC experience at least he was right there alongside a number of HC's. This is the great flaw of the Mulliin/Richmond/St Jean side of the staff equation/experiment. They came in with NO experience as a coach, NO experience as a recruiter, and NO ONE to hold them accountable. At least in the original plan there were two recruiters, though it seems one might have been a bit of a dinosaur with a spotty recent employment history.
Ewing also has Louis Orr by his side, a guy with 13 years HC experience, and Kirby, a 33 year assistant coach, even Waheed has 16 years as an AC. Really there's no comparison.[/quote]
When the SJU staff was assembled, it included Slice and his time as a head coach and years as a high profile assistant, and Matt, who was young and less experienced but already a solid recruiter. I don't know what, if anything, Slice did here, but we all know that most coaches would not have had the power that Mullin has had to put together a staff as he pleased. What happens after the season should be interesting.[/quote]
Suspect Chris’s staff will look a bit different next season, not so unusual at college level.
Ewing also has Louis Orr by his side, a guy with 13 years HC experience, and Kirby, a 33 year assistant coach, even Waheed has 16 years as an AC. Really there's no comparison.[/quote]
When the SJU staff was assembled, it included Slice and his time as a head coach and years as a high profile assistant, and Matt, who was young and less experienced but already a solid recruiter. I don't know what, if anything, Slice did here, but we all know that most coaches would not have had the power that Mullin has had to put together a staff as he pleased. What happens after the season should be interesting.[/quote]
Suspect Chris’s staff will look a bit different next season, not so unusual at college level.
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Ray Morgan
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[quote="Paultzman" post=320196][quote="Ray Morgan" post=320195][quote="austour" post=320174]Ray, Ewing spent most of the past 15 years on an NBA bench so while he may not have HC experience at least he was right there alongside a number of HC's. This is the great flaw of the Mulliin/Richmond/St Jean side of the staff equation/experiment. They came in with NO experience as a coach, NO experience as a recruiter, and NO ONE to hold them accountable. At least in the original plan there were two recruiters, though it seems one might have been a bit of a dinosaur with a spotty recent employment history.
Ewing also has Louis Orr by his side, a guy with 13 years HC experience, and Kirby, a 33 year assistant coach, even Waheed has 16 years as an AC. Really there's no comparison.[/quote]
When the SJU staff was assembled, it included Slice and his time as a head coach and years as a high profile assistant, and Matt, who was young and less experienced but already a solid recruiter. I don't know what, if anything, Slice did here, but we all know that most coaches would not have had the power that Mullin has had to put together a staff as he pleased. What happens after the season should be interesting.[/quote]
Suspect Chris’s staff will look a bit different next season, not so unusual at college level.[/quote]
They will all grow mustaches? A bit different could mean a lot of things. I hope it's more than that. Unless you mean an A.C. with recruiting and coaching experience added to the staff.
Ewing also has Louis Orr by his side, a guy with 13 years HC experience, and Kirby, a 33 year assistant coach, even Waheed has 16 years as an AC. Really there's no comparison.[/quote]
When the SJU staff was assembled, it included Slice and his time as a head coach and years as a high profile assistant, and Matt, who was young and less experienced but already a solid recruiter. I don't know what, if anything, Slice did here, but we all know that most coaches would not have had the power that Mullin has had to put together a staff as he pleased. What happens after the season should be interesting.[/quote]
Suspect Chris’s staff will look a bit different next season, not so unusual at college level.[/quote]
They will all grow mustaches? A bit different could mean a lot of things. I hope it's more than that. Unless you mean an A.C. with recruiting and coaching experience added to the staff.
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[quote="Ray Morgan" post=320200][quote="Paultzman" post=320196][quote="Ray Morgan" post=320195][quote="austour" post=320174]Ray, Ewing spent most of the past 15 years on an NBA bench so while he may not have HC experience at least he was right there alongside a number of HC's. This is the great flaw of the Mulliin/Richmond/St Jean side of the staff equation/experiment. They came in with NO experience as a coach, NO experience as a recruiter, and NO ONE to hold them accountable. At least in the original plan there were two recruiters, though it seems one might have been a bit of a dinosaur with a spotty recent employment history.
Ewing also has Louis Orr by his side, a guy with 13 years HC experience, and Kirby, a 33 year assistant coach, even Waheed has 16 years as an AC. Really there's no comparison.[/quote]
When the SJU staff was assembled, it included Slice and his time as a head coach and years as a high profile assistant, and Matt, who was young and less experienced but already a solid recruiter. I don't know what, if anything, Slice did here, but we all know that most coaches would not have had the power that Mullin has had to put together a staff as he pleased. What happens after the season should be interesting.[/quote]
Suspect Chris’s staff will look a bit different next season, not so unusual at college level.[/quote]
They will all grow mustaches? A bit different could mean a lot of things. I hope it's more than that. Unless you mean an A.C. with recruiting and coaching experience added to the staff.[/quote]
Use your imagination.
Ewing also has Louis Orr by his side, a guy with 13 years HC experience, and Kirby, a 33 year assistant coach, even Waheed has 16 years as an AC. Really there's no comparison.[/quote]
When the SJU staff was assembled, it included Slice and his time as a head coach and years as a high profile assistant, and Matt, who was young and less experienced but already a solid recruiter. I don't know what, if anything, Slice did here, but we all know that most coaches would not have had the power that Mullin has had to put together a staff as he pleased. What happens after the season should be interesting.[/quote]
Suspect Chris’s staff will look a bit different next season, not so unusual at college level.[/quote]
They will all grow mustaches? A bit different could mean a lot of things. I hope it's more than that. Unless you mean an A.C. with recruiting and coaching experience added to the staff.[/quote]
Use your imagination.
MarkRedman
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One can only hope it will happen
It is clear that our staff needs to be shaken up a bit
Until it does, we can only expect more of the same
Fingers crossed that Cragg will make it happen
It would make a lot of people on this site very happy (including me)
It is clear that our staff needs to be shaken up a bit
Until it does, we can only expect more of the same
Fingers crossed that Cragg will make it happen
It would make a lot of people on this site very happy (including me)