don_pitino
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Calipari already said "Tyson chicken" won't be paying Boogie, hence why he is in the portal
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Redenbacher
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Don't agree with RJ's value only going down if he goes back to college for another year. He's not even on the NBA draft board right now. Another stellar college year could change that for him.
RJ will be 23 years old for next year's NBA draft. Last year, 11 of the players drafted were 23 years old, including 4 first rounders. So it's not like he will be over the hill. Plus, he will make around 6 years' worth of G-League salary for one more year of college.
Fland at 18 years of age has tons of time on his side to stay in college.
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Chriscin33
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Also he recruited the number 1 PG in America (Acuff) and have Wagner. That is their starting back court. Fland would not be going back to Arkansas.
How is RJs value going to go up? He will not be playing for us, so he will have a new coach, new teammates, a new system, a new campus, new classes, new classmates, etc. RJ is not a teenager, he is a grown man with a significant injury history (wrist and both shins).
CRP gave RJ the correct advice. He should listen.
Btw, Chris Ledlum has been playing very successfully in France. The NBA and the G League are not the only options.
23 going on 24 in college is not a blueprint for NBA success.
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I was thinking this would be inevitable. It can be very beneficial for both teams...you send a team like LIU kids they would never be able to sign like Maker and Glover, let them get major minutes, monitor them closely, schedule some joint practices and scrimmages, and then take them up.
It could get to the point that someone like Pitino would install his system at the lower school and have one of his assistants oversee it.
When a kid like Vince transfers out...you steer them to the lower team. Perhaps help out with some $ too.
My main concern would be if he'd fully buy into the team first culture next year, or try too much to make it a personal audition for the NBA.
I think this starts off with buyouts and could eventually get to this.
I think buyouts are already a thing in football, no? Maybe in basketball too.
Chemistry is my main concern no matter who we add.
At least with Boogie, the thing to impress the NBA the most would be distributing the ball and playmaking for others + playing good defense.
i def see buyouts first.... offer a HS recruit 1mm over 2 years, 300 yr1 700 yr2... and if someone wants him X$ amount paid to the school
The Boyd kid at SDSU had one, but its a rare thing. I think it'll eventually be very standard, if not required, once there's rules around freedom of movement. It is the easiest way to help everybody.
that would be smart... but haven't come across anything in the interwebs...
Is that what kept the big man there?
No. He literally changed his mind after telling Kentucky he was going there. lol. Brutal
Didn’t know shoes got in the Agent game
Redenbacher
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Just because he is not playing for SJU does not mean his value cannot go up next year. If he comes back to college, he will almost certainly be playing for a top tier team with a top tier coach.
Yes, in a prefect world RJ would be younger. But look at the 23 years olds who were drafted last year and are currently playing in the NBA - eg, Dalton Knecht, Baylor Scheierman, Terrence Shannon Jr. , etc. Being 23 in college is not a death wish for making the NBA. RJ doesn't want to follow in Ledlum's footsteps, he's a far better player than Ledlum.
That’s what Ian will be doing. Forget Boogie and forget RJ.
L J S A
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Smart pivot. If you get left out of two hiring cycles you are probably toast as an assistant.
I am not a scout but I saw both Boogie and Ian play at Stepinac and Hayes from their Freshman through Junior year several times and then Boogie as a senior after Ian went to OSL. While not directly comparable because of their size and skill sets I feel the following.
Jackson was better each of their first three years but I had concerns about his outside shooting. After last season those are gone. I was really impressed with him at UNC in a role that limited his ability. He still has some areas he can improve in but I think he could exceed some of the boards expectations. He is an immense talent.
Fland didn’t impress me as much and especially his first three years seemed a bit overrated. He improved a lot his senior year. He was hurt a good portion of the season and the team seemed to improve when he went out but I think that was just a coincidence.
I agree he didn’t stand out for much of the game in Providence but who on St. John’s besides Zuby did. That said when the game was on the line Fland blew by Smith if I recall and scored a huge late basket.
If Fland is a first round pick I agree he should go to the NBA if not he should go to back to college. I don’t see him not being a second round pick if he returns to college.
Jackson was better each of their first three years but I had concerns about his outside shooting. After last season those are gone. I was really impressed with him at UNC in a role that limited his ability. He still has some areas he can improve in but I think he could exceed some of the boards expectations. He is an immense talent.
Fland didn’t impress me as much and especially his first three years seemed a bit overrated. He improved a lot his senior year. He was hurt a good portion of the season and the team seemed to improve when he went out but I think that was just a coincidence.
I agree he didn’t stand out for much of the game in Providence but who on St. John’s besides Zuby did. That said when the game was on the line Fland blew by Smith if I recall and scored a huge late basket.
If Fland is a first round pick I agree he should go to the NBA if not he should go to back to college. I don’t see him not being a second round pick if he returns to college.
Silly Donovan
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I think it’s interesting that so much time and energy is wasted on a thread based on an improbable supposition. First of all Boogie is focused on the draft. Second of all, if he doesn’t go when he wants to in the draft, if Cal wants him back, I’m sure he can match and outbid whatever Pitino does so why change. And thirdly, what makes you think Pitino wants Boogie? Did you ever stop to think that part of the deal in getting Jackson to commit (remember it took a while?) was that Coach agreed to play him at point? Pitino went out of his way to make a grand statement as such.