2021-22 Depth Chart

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I know there are still pieces missing but based off what we have now looks like the depth chart is something like this

PG:    Posh,  
SG:     Smith. Wusu
SF:     Champagnie,   Pinzon
PF:     Wheeler,   Stanley, Traore (Dont know who will be the better of the two)
C:     Soriano, Nyiewe 


I am guessing that Smith and Pinzon will both be tasked with doing some backup PG duties and we have some spots to fill especially amongst the guards.
 
PSK938 post=431939 said:
I know there are still pieces missing but based off what we have now looks like the depth chart is something like this

PG:    Posh,  
SG:     Smith. Wusu
SF:     Champagnie,   Pinzon
PF:     Wheeler,   Stanley, Traore (Dont know who will be the better of the two)
C:     Soriano, Nyiewe 


I am guessing that Smith and Pinzon will both be tasked with doing some backup PG duties and we have some spots to fill especially amongst the guards.

Probably too early for this. Also, can't really go with the traditional PG/SG/SF/PF/C construction these days. It's more like guards, wings, bigs. Pinzon is a guard, not a SF and Wusu is definitely not a SG.
 
You can flop Pinzon and Wusu -  doesnt make much of a difference.     

Point was -  where do they need help and what guys are they looking at and how do they fit.     Clearly a guy like Alvarado if he were to transfer and come would be ideal as he could easily play both guard spots.   Right now outside of him I havent heard of a true back up to Posh.
 
PSK938 post=431944 said:
You can flop Pinzon and Wusu -  doesnt make much of a difference.     

Point was -  where do they need help and what guys are they looking at and how do they fit.     Clearly a guy like Alvarado if he were to transfer and come would be ideal as he could easily play both guard spots.   Right now outside of him I havent heard of a true back up to Posh.
They were looking ideally for two guards, a shooter and a combo guard,who can caddy for Posh a bit and play off ball, was my impression. Guess if they go Mathis route, that goal is modified re the shooter. Some combo guard names have buzzed around, but nothing specific yet.
 
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It seems to me that if Montez Mathis (or another established transfer SG or SF) comes in, there's a good chance Pinzon's potential playing time could be limited, with Stanley and Traore splitting limited limits.  That said, I love the depth this team could have--even better than last year's--and infinitely better than Mullin's last two seasons.
 
mm52 post=431948 said:
It seems to me that if Montez Mathis (or another established transfer SG or SF) comes in, there's a good chance Pinzon's potential playing time could be limited, with Stanley and Traore splitting limited limits.  That said, I love the depth this team could have--even better than last year's--and infinitely better than Mullin's last two seasons.
I would think Pinzon will be a fine player in time, but will be appropriately nurtured, not garnering big minutes in year one. Of the three freshmen, I would not be surprised if Stanley is most prepared for a solid role as a frosh.
 
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PSK938 post=431944 said:
Right now outside of him I havent heard of a true back up to Posh.
It's tough because Posh will only be a soph, and he's not a 6'4" freak of nature, so he'll be here a while. We aren't going to get a good PG to come in and sit behind him for several years, so it's either going to be a bunch of combo guards or an unheralded PG happy to be at Big East level. A talented PG who could slide into a double PG set à la Alvarado would be ideal, of course.
 
Paultzman post=431951 said:
mm52 post=431948 said:
It seems to me that if Montez Mathis (or another established transfer SG or SF) comes in, there's a good chance Pinzon's potential playing time could be limited, with Stanley and Traore splitting limited limits.  That said, I love the depth this team could have--even better than last year's--and infinitely better than Mullin's last two seasons.
I would think Pinzon will be a fine player in time, but will be appropriately nurtured, not garnering big minutes in year one.


 
Hopefully our 3 freshmen will accept perhaps not getting big minutes and prominent roles that Posh and Wusu had in year 1.   that is a luxury I am glad we might have this year.  But I do think each will play a prominent role over the course of the season.
 
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PSK938 post=431939 said:
I know there are still pieces missing but based off what we have now looks like the depth chart is something like this

PG:    Posh,  
SG:     Smith. Wusu
SF:     Champagnie,   Pinzon
PF:     Wheeler,   Stanley, Traore (Dont know who will be the better of the two)
C:     Soriano, Nyiewe 


I am guessing that Smith and Pinzon will both be tasked with doing some backup PG duties and we have some spots to fill especially amongst the guards.

CMA is going to play 3 guards and 2 forwards, always has.  Champagnie will play the 4 spot, which is the position he's played the last 2 years. CMA labels that as a "Quick Forward" or "Versatile Forward."  In other coaches systems that's basically the SF spot.

If season started today with roster as is depth chart would probably look like this...

1. Posh / Pinzon 
2. Smith
3. Wusu 
4. Champagnie / Wheeler / Traore
5. Soriano / Nyiwe / Stanley

Probably can put Pinzon at any of the 3 guard spots.  And as Zach said yesterday staff is looking for 2 more guards.
 
Making Plays post=431962 said:
PSK938 post=431939 said:
I know there are still pieces missing but based off what we have now looks like the depth chart is something like this

PG:    Posh,  
SG:     Smith. Wusu
SF:     Champagnie,   Pinzon
PF:     Wheeler,   Stanley, Traore (Dont know who will be the better of the two)
C:     Soriano, Nyiewe 


I am guessing that Smith and Pinzon will both be tasked with doing some backup PG duties and we have some spots to fill especially amongst the guards.

CMA is going to play 3 guards and 2 forwards, always has.  Champagnie will play the 4 spot, which is the position he's played the last 2 years. CMA labels that as a "Quick Forward" or "Versatile Forward."  In other coaches systems that's basically the SF spot.

If season started today with roster as is depth chart would probably look like this...

1. Posh / Pinzon 
2. Smith
3. Wusu 
4. Champagnie / Wheeler / Traore
5. Soriano / Nyiwe / Stanley

Probably can put Pinzon at any of the 3 guard spots.  And as Zach said yesterday staff is looking for 2 more guards.

You’re right MP. He’s always trended towards 3 guards. But his best teams have starred forwards at the 3. 2009 Mizzou Elite 8 team had Matt Lawrence, a 6’7 sharpshooter. Not a guard by any means. And then you have the wonderful Michael Qualls. 6’6 freak athlete, who could jump out of gym, but came to Arkansas with no guard skills whatsoever. You know the rest.

From what I’ve heard, Julian is shooting the ball effortlessly from NBA range, and he’s not missing. He’s gonna be ready to play small forward next year, and if that happens, things will get scary.
 
Big Red post=432035 said:
You’re right MP. He’s always trended towards 3 guards. But his best teams have starred forwards at the 3. 2009 Mizzou Elite 8 team had Matt Lawrence, a 6’7 sharpshooter. Not a guard by any means. And then you have the wonderful Michael Qualls. 6’6 freak athlete, who could jump out of gym, but came to Arkansas with no guard skills whatsoever. You know the rest.

From what I’ve heard, Julian is shooting the ball effortlessly from NBA range, and he’s not missing. He’s gonna be ready to play small forward next year, and if that happens, things will get scary.
Michael Qualls is a 6'6 200 pound SG, he plays SG professionally overseas right now.  Like you said he's a freak athlete, he is probably about 3x quicker than Champagnie. Matt Lawrence was 6'7 and weighed about 165 pounds coming out of high school, believe by his senior year he got up to about 200 pounds.  He's what you would call a wing player, which is basically a bigger SG.  Julian is way bigger than both of those guys.

Julian is 6'8 220 pounds, a former CMA player that he's more comparable to is Coty Clarke, who was 6'7 230 pounds, played on a couple 10 day contracts in the NBA and now he plays SF professionally overseas, he played at the 4 spot for CMA.  And another comparison would be CMA's nephew Demarre Carroll who is 6'8 225, he played several years in the NBA at SF, he also played almost exclusively at the 4 spot for CMA.

I just think if CMA was going to play Julian at the 3 spot he would have by now.  He lead the league in scoring playing him at the 4 spot in his system. Julian did a lot of his scoring down in the paint, by rebounding and getting put backs, he's not a quick guard that's going to take people off the dribble and score that way, it wouldn't make sense for them to change what isn't broken, him playing where he's at is what put him on NBA radars.  


 
 
Updated Depth Chart with addition of Mathis. Zach said now there focus is on a combo guard that can play the 1 / 2.... Alvarado? :)

1. Posh / (Transfer)
2. Smith / Pinzon
3. Mathis / Wusu 
4. Champagnie / Wheeler / Traore
5. Soriano / Nyiwe / Stanley
 
 
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I have no idea if there is a chance to get Alvarado to play here for a season. If there is I can't think of a better pickup out there. He would give us three All Big East level players with some nice pieces to go around them. That would be a team that hopefully get us our long elusive tournament win.
 
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Making Plays post=432037 said:
Big Red post=432035 said:
You’re right MP. He’s always trended towards 3 guards. But his best teams have starred forwards at the 3. 2009 Mizzou Elite 8 team had Matt Lawrence, a 6’7 sharpshooter. Not a guard by any means. And then you have the wonderful Michael Qualls. 6’6 freak athlete, who could jump out of gym, but came to Arkansas with no guard skills whatsoever. You know the rest.

From what I’ve heard, Julian is shooting the ball effortlessly from NBA range, and he’s not missing. He’s gonna be ready to play small forward next year, and if that happens, things will get scary.
Michael Qualls is a 6'6 200 pound SG, he plays SG professionally overseas right now.  Like you said he's a freak athlete, he is probably about 3x quicker than Champagnie. Matt Lawrence was 6'7 and weighed about 165 pounds coming out of high school, believe by his senior year he got up to about 200 pounds.  He's what you would call a wing player, which is basically a bigger SG.  Julian is way bigger than both of those guys.

Julian is 6'8 220 pounds, a former CMA player that he's more comparable to is Coty Clarke, who was 6'7 230 pounds, played on a couple 10 day contracts in the NBA and now he plays SF professionally overseas, he played at the 4 spot for CMA.  And another comparison would be CMA's nephew Demarre Carroll who is 6'8 225, he played several years in the NBA at SF, he also played almost exclusively at the 4 spot for CMA.

I just think if CMA was going to play Julian at the 3 spot he would have by now.  He lead the league in scoring playing him at the 4 spot in his system. Julian did a lot of his scoring down in the paint, by rebounding and getting put backs, he's not a quick guard that's going to take people off the dribble and score that way, it wouldn't make sense for them to change what isn't broken, him playing where he's at is what put him on NBA radars.  


Well Julian is better than both of them. And if they can play the wing, CMA will put him at the wing. 

Keep in mind Champ was a young freshman about to go to prep school. He’s improved vastly over the past two years. All that’s left is ball handling and getting stronger. He’s plenty quick enough. We can consider him a sharpshooter, and he doesn’t really like playing the 4 ?? 

He’s really good kid, and will play both 3/4 for this team. Depending on who is starting, we’ll see him featured both ways. Then go from there.

 
 
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Big Red post=432204 said:
Making Plays post=432037 said:
Big Red post=432035 said:
You’re right MP. He’s always trended towards 3 guards. But his best teams have starred forwards at the 3. 2009 Mizzou Elite 8 team had Matt Lawrence, a 6’7 sharpshooter. Not a guard by any means. And then you have the wonderful Michael Qualls. 6’6 freak athlete, who could jump out of gym, but came to Arkansas with no guard skills whatsoever. You know the rest.

From what I’ve heard, Julian is shooting the ball effortlessly from NBA range, and he’s not missing. He’s gonna be ready to play small forward next year, and if that happens, things will get scary.
Michael Qualls is a 6'6 200 pound SG, he plays SG professionally overseas right now.  Like you said he's a freak athlete, he is probably about 3x quicker than Champagnie. Matt Lawrence was 6'7 and weighed about 165 pounds coming out of high school, believe by his senior year he got up to about 200 pounds.  He's what you would call a wing player, which is basically a bigger SG.  Julian is way bigger than both of those guys.

Julian is 6'8 220 pounds, a former CMA player that he's more comparable to is Coty Clarke, who was 6'7 230 pounds, played on a couple 10 day contracts in the NBA and now he plays SF professionally overseas, he played at the 4 spot for CMA.  And another comparison would be CMA's nephew Demarre Carroll who is 6'8 225, he played several years in the NBA at SF, he also played almost exclusively at the 4 spot for CMA.

I just think if CMA was going to play Julian at the 3 spot he would have by now.  He lead the league in scoring playing him at the 4 spot in his system. Julian did a lot of his scoring down in the paint, by rebounding and getting put backs, he's not a quick guard that's going to take people off the dribble and score that way, it wouldn't make sense for them to change what isn't broken, him playing where he's at is what put him on NBA radars.  


Well Julian is better than both of them. And if they can play the wing, CMA will put him at the wing. 

Keep in mind Champ was a young freshman about to go to prep school. He’s improved vastly over the past two years. All that’s left is ball handling and getting stronger. He’s plenty quick enough. We can consider him a sharpshooter, and he doesn’t really like playing the 4 ?? 

He’s really good kid, and will play both 3/4 for this team. Depending on who is starting, we’ll see him featured both ways. Then go from there.


 
If CMA didn't play Demarre Carrol at the 3 spot I highly doubt he plays Champ there.  Carrol is way better than Champagnie and was 1st round draft pick, he's much quicker, and could actually guard positions 2-5.  No way Champ is guarding 6'2 and 6'3 guys on the perimeter on a consistent basis, he's just not quick enough.

There's been guys posting lineups for the past 2 years putting Champ at the 3 spot, and he hasn't played there at all.  With CMA it's not hard to predict his lineups and where he prefers to play guys, he almost always has the same type of lineups and he rarely changes a guys position once he plays them there consistently.  Remember how Arkansas fans wanted Portis to start at the 4 with Kingsley at the 5?  We seen fans predict that lineup for 2 years in a row,  did that ever happen?  Nope, he kept both at the 5 spot. If you're 6'10 or taller you're playing at the 5 spot for CMA.  If you're 6'8 or taller you're playing at the 4 spot, that's just how he does.
 
Knight post=432235 said:
Has Alvarado joined the portal?
Nope, he probably won't until after he pulls out of the NBA draft.  The deadline to pull out is July 19th, so it may not be until late July before Alvarado's decision is made.  I think most think Alvarado coming here is unlikely, a lot of things have to go right, however if there is a chance you hold a scholarship for that chance.  
 
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