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I've been wondering and pondered that the lineup would be
Alexander
Williams
Cole
Champagnie
Earlington
But with the recent praising talks of Torro by Anderson
How would a
Alexander
Cole
Champagnie
Earlington
Torro lineup sound like.

Can Champ guard the 3??
Will Dunn start which is likely?
Will Roberts come back strong?
Will Caraher shooter like he did at Houston Baptist?
Will Moore be able to keep up with BE level players?
Can McGriff guard bigger players?
Wusu put up crazy stats in HS but can it carry over?
We can put out two squads that could all be starter worthy.

Your thoughts?
 
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[quote="Billy Don Ferrell" post=398507]I've been wondering and pondered that the lineup would be
Alexander
Williams
Cole
Champagnie
Earlington
But with the recent praising talks of Torro by Anderson
How would a
Alexander
Cole
Champagnie
Earlington
Torro lineup sound like.

Can Champ guard the 3??
Will Dunn start which is likely?
Will Roberts come back strong?
Will Caraher shooter like he did at Houston Baptist?
Will Moore be able to keep up with BE level players?'
We can put out two squads that could all be starter worthy.

Your thoughts?[/quote]

I don't think Posh starts over Dunn.
 
Bustingbrackets.com. who picked St. John's 10th in their Big East power rankings, has this starting lineup:

Dunn-G
Cole-G
Earlington- F
Champ-F
Roberts-F

Since CMA likes what Toro brings, maybe he starts over Roberts. Earlington is very much suited to be an energy guy off the bench when the team needs a spark. He has earned a starting role, but did so well off the bench that maybe CMA will play him that way. I don't know who would start ahead of Earl at SF, but i wouldn't rule out going with Cole at SF and Dunn and Williams at guard.
 
PG- Posh
SG- Cole
F- Julian
F- Marcellus
C- Toro

Dunn should not start IMO. The bench should be injection of energy and he is that.

6- Dunn
7- Moore
8- Williams
9- McGriff
Rest- Caraher, Roberts, Wusu
 
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Dunn, Cole, Champagnie, Earlington and Roberts. Williams 6th man. Toro, Moore, Alexander and Caraher the rest of the second five.
 
Dunn or Alexander ?

Both will play significant minutes.

It doesn’t matter who starts with CMA as is the case with many other coaches since he plays a long bench. I expect to see Dunn and Alexander on the same floor from time to time.
 
I'm not overly hung up on starters vs. significant minutes guys, but given Coach's preference for experience, I'd guess Dunn, Williams, Toro, Cole and Champ with Earlington, Posh & Roberts getting plenty of time off the bench at least to start the year. Moore is the wild card to me.
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=398528]I'm not overly hung up on starters vs. significant minutes guys, but given Coach's preference for experience, I'd guess Dunn, Williams, Toro, Cole and Champ with Earlington, Posh & Roberts getting plenty of time off the bench at least to start the year. Moore is the wild card to me.[/quote]

Roberts did not get many minutes last year once conference play started. That’s why I’m thinking Toro starts and will get bulk of minutes. Combine that with Roberts recovering from a serious surgery
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=398528]I'm not overly hung up on starters vs. significant minutes guys, but given Coach's preference for experience, I'd guess Dunn, Williams, Toro, Cole and Champ with Earlington, Posh & Roberts getting plenty of time off the bench at least to start the year. Moore is the wild card to me.[/quote]


I too am not hung up on who starts. Having said that, Williams has paid his dues and IMO, all things being close to equal, he deserves to start for symbolic reasons as much as anything. Regardless, there will be plenty of minutes to be had by most of the kids. And without having seen Toro, Moore, Cole and Posh, tough to gage who will get the most minutes. Excited to see the growth of the returning players, and what the new kids have to offer.
 
I also agree he spreads the minutes out but I do believe he will start the upper classman early in the season.
Dunn
Williams
Cole
Champaign
Roberts if healthy if not Toro.

Just my opinion
 
I’m not concerned about who starts as I think under CM system there will be ample minutes to spread around. I’m more concerned about who scores the points. I expect the following provided they get sufficient minutes:JC 15 ppl:;Dke 10;10 points from thr center position; Caraher 5 ppm;;Dunne 10 ppm; Williams 10 ppm; Cole 15 ppm; Posh and McGriff 5 ppm Wusu 1 ppm Total 81 ppm. Those numbers are based on last years numbers for returning players,, plus some growth for JC and Williams and need from Cole.
 
I might go smaller but quicker to start with Dunn, Williams,,Cole, Earlington and Champagnie.
 
Starters will be:

1- dunn
2- cole
3- champ
4- the duke
5- roberts

Now I do think williams can take the starting 2 spot if he earns it over the next 2 months. I also think moore or torro can earn the 5 if one of them earns it over roberts the next 2 months.

1,3 and 4 are locks to start. 2 and 5 i dont believe has been decided yet.
 
PG: I think Dunn will get the first shot at being the starter but he will have to take care of the ball and up his shooting percentages. 37% from the field and 22% from 3 is not going to cut it. To his credit he started to look better at distributing the ball as the season went on. I think coach will also appreciate not having to throw Alexander into the fire right away, let him learn without too much pressure. Regardless they will get minutes as Dunn can also play off the ball. Interested to see if McGriff can carve out a role this year, he’s likely the best ball handler on the roster. Hopefully he used the redshirt year well and put on some weight.

Wing: I believe Cole will lead the team in scoring and will be a starter from day one. Honestly we need him to be good because as much as I like our returning players they only won 5 conference games last year. Obviously I expect improvement from them but an infusion of talent is necessary especially offensively. I think Williams is the other starter on the wing. I’m very high on him and think he will have a breakout year. After he got healthy he was very impressive in league play. Caraher will probably play a similar role as this past year. Hustle plays, move the ball and hopefully provide a little more scoring. Wusu I admittedly don’t know much about, he does seem to be physically ready though. I expect limited PT for him as a freshman.

Bigs: Champagnie is locked in at the 4 and I expect him to continue to improve on his strong 1st season. Earlington in my opinion deserves to start but him and Champagnie play the same position. I think going small with Earl and Champ in the frontcourt will close out games but not start them for foul purposes and so they don’t get worn out guarding centers. Roberts played well OOC but fell off the map in conference play. Now he’s coming off an injury, I expect him to come off the bench as he works his way back. Even when healthy he’s ideally an energy big off the bench. I expect either Moore or Toro to get the nod at Center. Moore is skinny but he offers a potentially interesting combination of shot blocking and ability to stretch the floor. Supposedly SEC teams were interested in him but Anderson sealed the deal before they could bring him in for visits. Toro is a more traditional big who can wrestle in the paint. Not sure he will be much of an offensive threat at the big east level but his rebounding should translate nicely.

1 Dunn
2 Williams
3 Cole
4 Champagnie
5 Moore
6 Earlington
7 Alexander
8 Toro
9 Caraher
10 Roberts
11 McGriff
12 Wusu
 
The players who earn the starting spots in practice are the ones who will get them. That's how CMA operates, especially since he knows how to adjust the lineup as the game goes on.

Having said that, my confidence rankings for starters are as follows:

Champagnie: Lock.
Earlington: Probably starter over Carraher
Dunn: Probable starter over Posh
Toro: Slight edge over Roberts
Williams v. Cole: Tossup

Griff, Moore, Wusu - subs

Some of the starter decisions may depend on size and what Wusu and Moore look like in practice. A lineup of Dunn/Williams/Champagnie/Earlington/Toro puts a lot of your size on the floor to start. The only "known" coming off the bench would be Roberts. That could lead to Carraher starting to bring Earlington off the bench. But if Wusu and Moore are ready to contribute then you fell better about that, especially with Cole (or Williams if Cole starts) and Alexander coming off the bench to provide scoring.

It's going to depend on what Anderson sees in practice.
 
Most of you are not even mentioning Moore. I have to assume he is going to get his share of minutes or he would have chosen to go somewhere else. Again, just an assumption but pretty rare to see a highly ranked juco player go somewhere and get zero minutes.
 
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[quote="Anthony Mattia" post=398579]Most of you are not even mentioning Moore. I have to assume he is going to get his share of minutes or he would have chosen to go somewhere else. Again, just an assumption but pretty rare to see a highly ranked juco player go somewhere and get zero minutes.[/quote]

Everyone is going to get minutes.
 
I'll go a slightly weirder. I don't think Anderson cares too much about traditional positions as long as he has a PG and a big on the floor...

Dunn
Williams
Cole
Champagnie
Toro

I think Earlington should start but he's so impactful off the bench I can see Coach keeping him there. Also if Williams keeps improving his outside shooting we'll need someone besides Cole who can spread the floor.I'm not at all confident in predicting any lineup. Starters seem to matter less in our system and also Anderson doesn't always make the most obvious choice. Champagnie starting last year was surprising and ended up being a great move but I'm sure there were a couple of guys with ruffled feathers. My money is still on Dunn but if Posh or McGriff is just crushing it in practice I think that guy gets the start. I think everyone will play. He found 5 -10 minutes a game for Sears last season...
 
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