2019 NFL draft/ Giants pick ?

[quote="Valgoth" post=346482]Or puts us in line for the Clemson QB in 2021[/quote]

The giants could have taken Josh allen an elite defensive talent and still been bad enough the next two years to be in play for Lawrence. Any way you slice it last night was horrid for the giants.

Even if Jones turns out to be good, you could’ve had him at 17 and still walked away with Josh Allen who magically fell into your lap cause the raiders went off the board for their pick.

I’m a jets fan but my dad is a giants die hard so I pull for them as my 2nd favorite team. I can’t believe how bad they did last night
 
They probably could have traded a third or fourth round pick for Josh Rosen. The selection of Jones makes no sense using the 6th pick.
 
[quote="Knight" post=346458]A Dookie ta boot. :blink:[/quote]

The Giants draft being 'universally' panned so far.
The rap on Jones is that he's 'good', not elite, but good, has maybe 'just enough physicality and mental makeup to be a very successful NFL QB, but that he probably would've been there at #17 or the Giants should've traded to get Josh Rosen.
Dexter Lawrence, the DT they picked at #17 is more of a run crusher than a pass rusher, but that may be because of a leg injury that he may be about fully healed from.
Deandre Baker, the CB, they moved up to get at #30 viewed to be very very good, but maybe a bit undersized and may have some 'character issues'.
Let's hope!
Gotta laugh.
 
[quote="Valgoth" post=346482]Or puts us in line for the Clemson QB in 2021[/quote]

Or "Tank For Tua" next year
 
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lol I love how people talk shit, remember Tom Brady was a 6th rnd pick.

"The Giants wanted someone who has faced adversity. He was not surrounded by a lot of talent at Duke, he got beat up and he has faced that adversity. He has ideal size and athleticism. He has a lot of toughness inside the pocket and was able to extend plays." -- Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network

Jenny Vrentas

@JennyVrentas
Daniel Jones would not have been there at 17. If he’s the QB you like, you get him at 6. People in the NFL liked Jones more than the media seems to.
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9:14 PM - Apr 25, 2019


If you’ve been listening to me since the beginning of the year, I told you that Daniel Jones would be picked by the @Giants .. He is a high IQ QB with B+ athleticism and arm talent.. He’s an Eli Manning clone from a personality standpoint. NYG is comfortable with this type of QB1
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9:04 PM - Apr 25, 2019

[URL]https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2019/03/daniel-jones-duke-football-pro-day-2019-nfl-draft[/URL]

The event began with individual drills, including the 40-yard dash, the 20-yard shuttle and the three-cone drill. Scouts then tested players individually before the event was capped with Jones’ throwing showcase, which saw the Charlotte native complete 61 of his 64 passes.

“I told Daniel yesterday, ‘[Scouts] haven’t really seen you throw in your environment. This is your place, your house, your turf,’” Blue Devil head coach David Cutcliffe said afterwards. “There were some jaws that dropped. There’s a wide array of interest from a lot of teams. You never know where that’s going to lead, but I had pro scouts and veterans that are friends of mine say that was the best workout they’ve seen in 25 years of doing this.”

He did just that, posting a 4.68 on his first run before logging a 4.64 on his second attempt—that would’ve been good for a top-five mark at the Combine, just ahead of Lock’s 4.69 mark.

The highly-anticipated event, however, was Jones’ passing workout, which comprised the final half-hour of the day. With scouts lining both sides of the field, Jones worked with Lloyd, Rahming, Helm, Koppenhaver and running back Nicodem Pierre, showing off his arm at short, medium and long distances.

The most impressive, by far, was Jones’ ball speed and accuracy in the 10-to-20 yard range. He completed his first 44 passes of the afternoon before a ball to Lloyd over the middle was just a bit too high, ending his perfect run.

Jones also wowed with a handful of his deep balls. Still, there were two passes way down the field that wobbled severely—that is the one aspect of his game that gives draftniks a bit of pause about Jones.

“When you look at Daniel Jones, the combination of size, athleticism, intelligence, toughness, work ethic, he checks all those boxes,” NFL Network’s Daniel Jeremiah said on Around the NFL after Duke’s Pro Day. “I’d be very surprised if, when it’s all set and done, Daniel Jones does not go in the first round.”

This year he'll learn behind a 2-time SB MVP, then needs atleast 3 years to develope, so we'll know by the 2023 season if this is a good pick.
 
[quote="Knight" post=346618]What happened to the O-Line?[/quote]

Very good question Knight i was thinking the same thing!
 
[quote="Knight" post=346618]What happened to the O-Line?[/quote]

If there is one thing I've learned, the Giants always undervalue the need for a top notch o-line. Not sure how many years must pass until they learn their lesson.
 
Somebody write this down. Josh Rosen will be a star in Miami. An multi-year All-Pro.

You heard it hear first.
 
Not thrilled that the guy making the selections for the G-Men has a Boston accent. :pinch:
 
Jones at 6 is bad. On a number of levels. Especially since Dave traded up back into Rd 1 and paid a very heavy price for a CB at 30.

That being said the one thing I'd like to see is if you put Jones on Ohio State and how that would change the numbers. Also regarding Haskins something about him doesn't sit right with me. Maybe it was having a draft party and charging people $50 to attend. Or right after announcing a company with his dad and a clothing line. One of the NJ papers had article about his dad and Haskins and the various high schools. Sounds like Lovett/Lavar Ball.

I'm intrigued by Jones but asset management is not Dave's strong point. DT was a position of need. And the rumblings of Suh coming to Giants as well. Do you need a 2 down player like Lawrence?

*** And my TV survived. I think it was because of the pure shock that Allen was on the board and we picked Jones.
 
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Can we do the draft over again and.......

1st Round
Pick # 6 -Devin Bush
Pick # 17 -Montez Sweat

2nd Round
Trade for Josh Rosen
 
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