2017 Big East Recruiting could be the best yet

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I posted this on Holy Land, but wanted to post here as well. With SJU picking up a top 100 recruit this week, I had a look at the top team recruiting rankings for 2017. Before I get to that, let's look at all class rankings in the new Big East.

From the site 247 (composite rankings):

2013 Top 50:
#7 Marquette
#32 Villanova
#45 DePaul
#48 Providence
#50 Butler

2014 Top 50:
#7 Georgetown
#16 Seton Hall
#17 Xavier
#20 Providence
#46 Villanova

Same number of teams as 2013's class, however higher rankings on average and a better class overall.

2015 Top 50:
#13 Marquette
#26 Georgetown
#27 St. John's
#30 Villanova

This year's class (freshmen this past year) was a step down from the very strong 2014 class.

2016 Top 50:
#22 Marquette
#23 St. John's
#29 Xavier
#44 Villanova
#45 Butler
#46 Providence

This upcoming class is strong- a new Big East record 6 top 50 teams (and some just outside the top 50) makes this a very balanced class.

Now... for 2017....

2017 Top 50:
#7 Creighton
#21 Seton Hall
#22 St. John's
#23 Villanova
#26 Providence
#37 Xavier
#38 DePaul
#43 Marquette
#50 Butler

http://247sports.com/Season/2017-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings

9/10 teams in the top 50 (only Georgetown missing). Now yes, the recruiting will obviously change since most of the top recruits haven't declared. I don't expect the Big East to finish with 90% of teams in the top 50. Regardless, we are off to a GREAT start!

Further, of the top 100 basketball recruits in 2017, Big East already has 4. Only 25 have actually declared, meaning Big East has 4 of the top 25 declared players in next year's class. 2016 and 2015 classes had 7 of the top 100. 2014's class, which was very top heavy, had 15 of the top 100. 2013 had 10. Personally, I think the team rankings are a lot more important than the player rankings. This past year's top BE player for example left to the NBA after one year and Marquette didn't make the tournament. In fact, the top player in the entire class didn't help LSU make it, and now he's gone.

http://247sports.com/Season/2017-Basketball/CompositeRecruitRankings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool

I think the 2017 class could be the best yet. 2014's class was best in terms of top players, and 2016's is arguably best in terms of balance/depth. 2017 could be best in both regards.
 
Xavier adds Elias Harden and Naji Marshall. Both top 100 4 star players on 247.

That means-
2015- 2 five star 9 four star
2016- 1 five star 12 four star
2017- 8 four star

We're already getting close to matching the 2015 class, and it's only July!
 
Amazing stat from Rothstein:

Since realignment, Villanova's record in Big East play is a combined 53-8 over the past three seasons. The conference's gold standard.
 
Amazing stat from Rothstein:

Since realignment, Villanova's record in Big East play is a combined 53-8 over the past three seasons. The conference's gold standard.

If you include the ongoing 2017 class (where Nova will likely end up better later on), SJU has a better class for 3 consecutive years. Only one of those classes has played, though, and Lovett didn't take part. So have to feel really confident moving forward.

Also of note, Marquette has arguably had the best recruits of the last 5 recruiting classes. They are one of two Big East teams not to make the tournament since realignment.

Georgetown is only favored with one solid recruit in 2017 and may be following up a weak class with another weak class.

Xavier's class is up to #4 now and will likely be best in school history.

Nova accomplished a lot for the conference and now it's time for more elite teams. Georgetown and Marquette were supposed to be them. Xavier looks like the best candidate, and going by recent recruiting SJU could join them.
 
I posted this on Holy Land, but wanted to post here as well. With SJU picking up a top 100 recruit this week, I had a look at the top team recruiting rankings for 2017. Before I get to that, let's look at all class rankings in the new Big East.

From the site 247 (composite rankings):

2013 Top 50:
#7 Marquette
#32 Villanova
#45 DePaul
#48 Providence
#50 Butler

2014 Top 50:
#7 Georgetown
#16 Seton Hall
#17 Xavier
#20 Providence
#46 Villanova

Same number of teams as 2013's class, however higher rankings on average and a better class overall.

2015 Top 50:
#13 Marquette
#26 Georgetown
#27 St. John's
#30 Villanova

This year's class (freshmen this past year) was a step down from the very strong 2014 class.

2016 Top 50:
#22 Marquette
#23 St. John's
#29 Xavier
#44 Villanova
#45 Butler
#46 Providence

This upcoming class is strong- a new Big East record 6 top 50 teams (and some just outside the top 50) makes this a very balanced class.

Now... for 2017....

2017 Top 50:
#7 Creighton
#21 Seton Hall
#22 St. John's
#23 Villanova
#26 Providence
#37 Xavier
#38 DePaul
#43 Marquette
#50 Butler

http://247sports.com/Season/2017-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings

9/10 teams in the top 50 (only Georgetown missing). Now yes, the recruiting will obviously change since most of the top recruits haven't declared. I don't expect the Big East to finish with 90% of teams in the top 50. Regardless, we are off to a GREAT start!

Further, of the top 100 basketball recruits in 2017, Big East already has 4. Only 25 have actually declared, meaning Big East has 4 of the top 25 declared players in next year's class. 2016 and 2015 classes had 7 of the top 100. 2014's class, which was very top heavy, had 15 of the top 100. 2013 had 10. Personally, I think the team rankings are a lot more important than the player rankings. This past year's top BE player for example left to the NBA after one year and Marquette didn't make the tournament. In fact, the top player in the entire class didn't help LSU make it, and now he's gone.

http://247sports.com/Season/2017-Basketball/CompositeRecruitRankings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool

I think the 2017 class could be the best yet. 2014's class was best in terms of top players, and 2016's is arguably best in terms of balance/depth. 2017 could be best in both regards.
Very nice to see. Will be even nicer once we start beating them
 
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