2025 Portal

L J S A said:
Would you want to play for a coach you have a seething hatred for? Friendly PR statements aside, I think Luis really hates Pitino for benching him.

Portal window unfortunately doesn't give any time for cooler heads to prevail.
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Don’t forget Coach RP was pissed that RJ didn’t run the play he wanted at the game they lost to Creighton. On the Vice show he clearly states “that we would have won the game if he ran the play I called.”

Perhaps there was more boiling under the surface. Doesn’t matter now, he’s gone. I wish him luck.
 
Section3 said:
Just my opinion…but mutual annoyment sounds about right…all interviews/comments that followed all seem to be more cordial than warm especially when juxtaposed against the mutual admiration comments over the past 2 years.

NOTE: finally got to use juxtaposed in a sentence
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Is juxtaposed the equivalent of just suppose?
 
passitback said:
This is worse than football. Way worse.
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I totally disagree. In Football, guys were hitting the portal before their season (the post season) was over so they could enroll at their new destination for the spring semester and be eligible for spring practice and the spring game. This meant teams were not just missing guys who opted out of bowl games because they were declaring for the NFL draft but guys who were transferring. Marshall, the winner of the Sun Belt Conference, had so many guys leaving (their head coach also left and went to another school) they dropped out of their bowl games.

This does not compare especially since folks who left after the fall semester can leave their new destination in the spring if they feel things are not going their way and would still be eligible to play at their third location in less than a year in the fall.
 
An astute poster noted the following:

Incumbent players have an exit meeting and find out what their role and “salary” will be for the coming season. Along comes a new player with a much higher price tag at their position, which via the grapevine the incumbent finds out about. That person likely presents his case to staff, while his camp puts feelers out to other teams. Feeling undervalued and underpaid if no counter offer, the player enters the portal.

So, it is not always a matter if a kid wanted out originally or the program preferred he move in, but just the transactional nature of transfer mania.
 
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paultzman said:
An astute poster noted the following:

Incumbent players have an exit meeting and find out what their role and “salary” will be for the coming season. Along comes a new player with a much higher price tag at their position, which via the grapevine the incumbent finds out about. That person likely presents his case to staff, while his camp puts feelers out to other teams. Feeling undervalued and underpaid if no counter offer, the player enters the portal.

So, it is not always a matter if a kid wanted out originally or the program preferred he move in, but just the transactional nature of transfer mania.
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Strangely similar to any corporate job.
 
paultzman said:
An astute poster noted the following:

Incumbent players have an exit meeting and find out what their role and “salary” will be for the coming season. Along comes a new player with a much higher price tag at their position, which via the grapevine the incumbent finds out about. That person likely presents his case to staff, while his camp puts feelers out to other teams. Feeling undervalued and underpaid if no counter offer, the player enters the portal.

So, it is not always a matter if a kid wanted out originally or the program preferred he move in, but just the transactional nature of transfer mania.
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Hard to blame any kid for going through this process but isn’t Sim the one in the Vice doc that said NIL is never discussed between teammates? (Not that I believed him because these kids are good friends and with each other all day long)
 
RedStormRising said:
Strangely similar to any corporate job.
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Just that this is a corporal job while a corporate job requires heavy lifting cerebral ability.
The VAST MAJORITY of these kids are not worth a tenth of what they are paid.
Especially when you realize that the NBA wouldn't draft or pay them at this stage of their careers.
Important players to us like RJ Luis and Kadary Richmond are even sniffing NBA offers.
The only reason colleges and coaches are falling for this "business model" is the system and the effed up courts in this country force them to pay just to staff a team.
Those that don't are called Siena, Iona, New Hampshire or St. Francis of Pennsylvania.
 
Rocket said:
Just that this is a corporal job while a corporate job requires heavy lifting cerebral ability.
The VAST MAJORITY of these kids are not worth a tenth of what they are paid.
Especially when you realize that the NBA wouldn't draft or pay them at this stage of their careers.
Important players to us like RJ Luis and Kadary Richmond are even sniffing NBA offers.
The only reason colleges and coaches are falling for this "business model" is the system and the effed up courts in this country force them to pay just to staff a team.
Those that don't are called Siena, Iona, New Hampshire or St. Francis of Pennsylvania.
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The thing is college basketball generates a ton of revenue. Not being nba worthy has nothing to do with their worth

MSG was selling out to see these kids. The market determines your worth. You stink you will end up on a Siena. You play well on a Siena you very well could get an offer to another team

This new type of atmosphere a lot of us might not like but how much does match madness generate ? It would be worth nothing without the players playing
 
mjmaherjr said:
The thing is college basketball generates a ton of revenue. Not being nba worthy has nothing to do with their worth

MSG was selling out to see these kids. The market determines your worth. You stink you will end up on a Siena. You play well on a Siena you very well could get an offer to another team

This new type of atmosphere a lot of us might not like but how much does match madness generate ? It would be worth nothing without the players playing
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And with college basketball, there is the additional factor of earned media + additional applications/enrollment + maybe more donors. The ROI isn't totally analogous to pro sports. But to Rocket's point, there is an irrationality involved. That should, in my mind, just factor into it being a wonky market more than the market is broken per se.

So yeah, I do think guys in college should make more than guys on the NBA bench. The Knicks aren't selling out MSG in order to watch PJ Tucker or Pacome Dadiet, but St. John's is selling out MSG (next year) for Ian, Hopkins, Zuby, etc.

The thing that's lacking is standard contracts, enforceable rules, and limits on transferring.
 
Rocket said:
Just that this is a corporal job while a corporate job requires heavy lifting cerebral ability.
The VAST MAJORITY of these kids are not worth a tenth of what they are paid.
Especially when you realize that the NBA wouldn't draft or pay them at this stage of their careers.
Important players to us like RJ Luis and Kadary Richmond are even sniffing NBA offers.
The only reason colleges and coaches are falling for this "business model" is the system and the effed up courts in this country force them to pay just to staff a team.
Those that don't are called Siena, Iona, New Hampshire or St. Francis of Pennsylvania.
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You & I may not agree they are worth it, but to some, even just one person, they are worth it to them.
 
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