Shamorie Ponds

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Is Ponds still with 76ers Gleague team (Delaware).  Not showing on their roster. Was hoping with covid ridden NBA he would get another shot.  If not now ???
 
He recently tested positive for Covid so may have been removed from roster for that. Not sure if there was a longer term move as well

 https://mobile.twitter.com/j_persicketti/status/1471903111891591168
 
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I was a unabashed Ponds supporter !  I liked watching him play .  He needed better teammates as he was given a overwhelming task to be a PG, SG, Ball stealer ,Rebounder , etc .       I hope he gets a regular role in the NBA at some point and makes some decent $$$$.   
 
SLYFOXX1968 post=448711 said:
I was a unabashed Ponds supporter !  I liked watching him play .  He needed better teammates as he was given a overwhelming task to be a PG, SG, Ball stealer ,Rebounder , etc .       I hope he gets a regular role in the NBA at some point and makes some decent $$$$.   
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He led us in points, assists, steals, and technical fouls.
 
7 ? Wow. Didnt think that many

Not sure on Mullin,, but I remember his first year as coach he got two technicals and ejected  midway through a huge blowout loss to Creighton
 
JohnnyFan post=448967 said:
Beast of the East post=448952 said:
RedStormNC post=448948 said:
Mullin must be right up there in getting T'd up as coach
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Ponds had 7 his last season. Mullin?
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And that is why he couldn't buy a call.
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To be honest, this is the biggest indictment of Mullin. You must demand your players shut up and play, and for the most part, you shut up and coach. Bitching at refs constantly doesn't get you calls, and as a coach they will only take so much. Good coaches work refs, not ride them.
 
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Calhoun and Boeheim bitched at calls more than anyone I can remember. Boeheim to this day, although in old age he may have calmed down a smidge.

Looie not so much, only when he really knew it was egregious.
 
Jay Wright does more than work the refs.. He rides them pretty hard.   

Difference is he, Calhoun, Boeheim had coaching records to back up their bark... Mullin didn't
 
RedStormNC post=448988 said:
Jay Wright does more than work the refs.. He rides them pretty hard.   

Difference is he, Calhoun, Boeheim had coaching records to back up their bark... Mullin didn't
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You have to know when to back off. Those two do, and even some of their theatrics are done for a purpose. A good ref will tell a coach when that's enough, and a good coach will heed that warning.
 
Well , New Year but , Many here still can’t get past the Mullin Era as Coach .   Here’s my opinion . Ponds got fouled on numerous drives to the basket that never got called over his career . He was always on his butt and sometimes by flagrant fouls .  I also see the same pattern with Posh , who usually doesn’t snipe at the Refs but , he gets knocked on his Ass quite a bit , without a lot of foul calls .   Why ?  Is it more letting them play or just relaxing the rules on lots of stuff . Walking , 3 Seconds , palming the Ball, goal tending ?                                                                   As for Mullin being critiqued for not calming Shamorie down or controlling him ?  Lavin didn’t have much success with calming Obepka down with his technicals and ejections . DLO also would blow up, until his stint with the Lucas Academy that deals with Anger Mgt .                        Anyway , that’s the way I see it .   And , Coaches often get Techinicals because they are protecting their player or , just supporting them in those situations . Better the Coach get the Technical than the Player or ejection . 
 
SLYFOXX1968 post=448996 said:
Well , New Year but , Many here still can’t get past the Mullin Era as Coach .   Here’s my opinion . Ponds got fouled on numerous drives to the basket that never got called over his career . He was always on his butt and sometimes by flagrant fouls .  I also see the same pattern with Posh , who usually doesn’t snipe at the Refs but , he gets knocked on his Ass quite a bit , without a lot of foul calls .   Why ?  Is it more letting them play or just relaxing the rules on lots of stuff . Walking , 3 Seconds , palming the Ball, goal tending ?                                                                   As for Mullin being critiqued for not calming Shamorie down or controlling him ?  Lavin didn’t have much success with calming Obepka down with his technicals and ejections . DLO also would blow up, until his stint with the Lucas Academy that deals with Anger Mgt .                        Anyway , that’s the way I see it .   And , Coaches often get Techinicals because they are protecting their player or , just supporting them in those situations . Better the Coach get the Technical than the Player or ejection . 
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Early on in his coaching tenure, Mullin was nearly an untouchable in terms of technicals because quite frankly the refs were in awe of him if they were from the NY area.    Chris Mullin wasn't just a star for SJU, he captivated the city and rose to the level of any professional star in the city as a collegian.    I think the refs early on let him whine about calls more than they should have.  I also think he complained long after a play was over, instead of coaching.   Shamorie Ponds did get knocked down a lot on the way to the basket, but I think he also said a lot of magic words that get a player t'd up, like multiple F bombs hurled at a ref for not calling a foul.    

A coach sometimes gets a purposeful T.  Throw a fit when the fouls called are like 8-1 against, and a ref will wake up and try to even it out.    Our blow an obvious call, throw a fit and the ref blows a make up whistle.   

The problem with all this is that Mullin had no one either on the bench, or in the athletic department who could serve as a mentor or even a peer.    I don't know, maybe he constructed his staff so that everyone would be an inferior.   Lavin for his money, respected Dunlap, Keady, and the rest of his staff.   You can still be the boss even when you take advice from a peer, superior, or an underling.    I think Mullin and Ponds getting T'd up a lot in the final season was synptomatic of what was missing in the program at that point. 
 
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Beast of the East post=449001 said:
SLYFOXX1968 post=448996 said:
Well , New Year but , Many here still can’t get past the Mullin Era as Coach .   Here’s my opinion . Ponds got fouled on numerous drives to the basket that never got called over his career . He was always on his butt and sometimes by flagrant fouls .  I also see the same pattern with Posh , who usually doesn’t snipe at the Refs but , he gets knocked on his Ass quite a bit , without a lot of foul calls .   Why ?  Is it more letting them play or just relaxing the rules on lots of stuff . Walking , 3 Seconds , palming the Ball, goal tending ?                                                                   As for Mullin being critiqued for not calming Shamorie down or controlling him ?  Lavin didn’t have much success with calming Obepka down with his technicals and ejections . DLO also would blow up, until his stint with the Lucas Academy that deals with Anger Mgt .                        Anyway , that’s the way I see it .   And , Coaches often get Techinicals because they are protecting their player or , just supporting them in those situations . Better the Coach get the Technical than the Player or ejection . 
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Early on in his coaching tenure, Mullin was nearly an untouchable in terms of technicals because quite frankly the refs were in awe of him if they were from the NY area.    Chris Mullin wasn't just a star for SJU, he captivated the city and rose to the level of any professional star in the city as a collegian.    I think the refs early on let him whine about calls more than they should have.  I also think he complained long after a play was over, instead of coaching.   Shamorie Ponds did get knocked down a lot on the way to the basket, but I think he also said a lot of magic words that get a player t'd up, like multiple F bombs hurled at a ref for not calling a foul.    

A coach sometimes gets a purposeful T.  Throw a fit when the fouls called are like 8-1 against, and a ref will wake up and try to even it out.    Our blow an obvious call, throw a fit and the ref blows a make up whistle.   

The problem with all this is that Mullin had no one either on the bench, or in the athletic department who could serve as a mentor or even a peer.    I don't know, maybe he constructed his staff so that everyone would be an inferior.   Lavin for his money, respected Dunlap, Keady, and the rest of his staff.   You can still be the boss even when you take advice from a peer, superior, or an underling.    I think Mullin and Ponds getting T'd up a lot in the final season was synptomatic of what was missing in the program at that point.                                        Good points , Beast .  There is also the fact that Mullin was a NBA player , returning to Coach a College Team .  Coaches throw a lot more F bombs in the NBA than College and get away with it .   Just watch the lips of NHL Coaches on the Bench when a penalty is called or not called .  The stuff coming out of their mouths would make a longshoreman blush !    
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This past season, Shamorie played in the G-League with the Delaware Blue Coats which is the Philadelphia 76ers' affiliate. His teammates Paul Reed and Myles Powell were recently added to the Sixers' summer league roster, whereas Ponds was not.

Powell shot over 40% from three and averaged 22 pts per game. Shamorie shot 30.9% from three and average 13.5 pts per game in relatively the same amount of minutes.

I wished for Ponds to make it to the NBA, but at this point I think it is advisable for him to head overseas and make some good money while he can. Considering he is 24 and not sniffing the summer league, it's time to make a business decision.
 
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