2025-2026 Season

tnice said:
Mitchell ranked and Jackson not.
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Like it or not neither Sanon nor Jackson lit the world on fire last year. They both had their moments, no question, but they also had times they were complete non factors. Workouts and mix tapes prove very little, one is a very essential part of the process, the other a harmless ego trip.
They both may very well be as good as hoped, I truly have no idea until they “throw the balls up” as Louie would say, but it is consistency that makes a great player, not moments.
To my mind, the Johnnie’s have two sure things, Ejiofor and Mitchell, and then an undeniable world of potential. They absolutely could be a legitimate NC contender, but there is a ton to be done between then and now, not the least of which is developing chemistry, defining roles, and incorporating great team defense into what is essentially a group of primarily offensive players. Finally, an extremely important part of it all, getting the players to accept where all of that falls out.
On top of all that, Jackson at point guard is a huge gamble, and while I would not bet against it being effective eventually, to expect him to be at the level needed to compete at a NC level from jump street is a huge, almost impossibly unrealistic, ask. So IF there is a learning curve thrown into the mix, the young team may be “chemistry challenged” early and then the senior leadership of Ejiofor and Mitchell will be vital in keeping the team righted.
To summarize, I wholeheartedly agree this team has unlimited potential but just think the brakes need to be pumped a bit. Two years ago, the team “got it” just a bit too late, and last year’s was absolutely great until it wasn’t. Nothing about sports is a given, one just needs to look at the Mets and Yankees to see the fragility of long seasons and high expectations.
 
logen said:
Like it or not neither Sanon nor Jackson lit the world on fire last year. They both had their moments, no question, but they also had times they were complete non factors. Workouts and mix tapes prove very little, one is a very essential part of the process, the other a harmless ego trip.
They both may very well be as good as hoped, I truly have no idea until they “throw the balls up” as Louie would say, but it is consistency that makes a great player, not moments.
To my mind, the Johnnie’s have two sure things, Ejiofor and Mitchell, and then an undeniable world of potential. They absolutely could be a legitimate NC contender, but there is a ton to be done between then and now, not the least of which is developing chemistry, defining roles, and incorporating great team defense into what is essentially a group of primarily offensive players. Finally, an extremely important part of it all, getting the players to accept where all of that falls out.
On top of all that, Jackson at point guard is a huge gamble, and while I would not bet against it being effective eventually, to expect him to be at the level needed to compete at a NC level from jump street is a huge, almost impossibly unrealistic, ask. So IF there is a learning curve thrown into the mix, the young team may be “chemistry challenged” early and then the senior leadership of Ejiofor and Mitchell will be vital in keeping the team righted.
To summarize, I wholeheartedly agree this team has unlimited potential but just think the brakes need to be pumped a bit. Two years ago, the team “got it” just a bit too late, and last year’s was absolutely great until it wasn’t. Nothing about sports is a given, one just needs to look at the Mets and Yankees to see the fragility of long seasons and high expectations.
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I disagree with your comments about Jackson. According to last year's stats, Jackson averaged 23.8 minutes per game, fifth on the team and yet he was the second leading scorer (11.9 ppg). His shooting percentages were FG% 45.6, 3PT% 39.5% and FT% 72.3. I live in NC and from what I understand, Davis and Cadeau had the ball in their hands a lot more than Jackson did.
 
CBA69 said:
I disagree with your comments about Jackson. According to last year's stats, Jackson averaged 23.8 minutes per game, fifth on the team and yet he was the second leading scorer (11.9 ppg). His shooting percentages were FG% 45.6, 3PT% 39.5% and FT% 72.3. I live in NC and from what I understand, Davis and Cadeau had the ball in their hands a lot more than Jackson did.
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Thats all true and when he was in he was there to score not distribute.....but his defense was almost non-existent all season. I think he'll be serviceable as playmaker but his defense is where he needs most work.
 
logen said:
Like it or not neither Sanon nor Jackson lit the world on fire last year. They both had their moments, no question, but they also had times they were complete non factors. Workouts and mix tapes prove very little, one is a very essential part of the process, the other a harmless ego trip.
They both may very well be as good as hoped, I truly have no idea until they “throw the balls up” as Louie would say, but it is consistency that makes a great player, not moments.
To my mind, the Johnnie’s have two sure things, Ejiofor and Mitchell, and then an undeniable world of potential. They absolutely could be a legitimate NC contender, but there is a ton to be done between then and now, not the least of which is developing chemistry, defining roles, and incorporating great team defense into what is essentially a group of primarily offensive players. Finally, an extremely important part of it all, getting the players to accept where all of that falls out.
On top of all that, Jackson at point guard is a huge gamble, and while I would not bet against it being effective eventually, to expect him to be at the level needed to compete at a NC level from jump street is a huge, almost impossibly unrealistic, ask. So IF there is a learning curve thrown into the mix, the young team may be “chemistry challenged” early and then the senior leadership of Ejiofor and Mitchell will be vital in keeping the team righted.
To summarize, I wholeheartedly agree this team has unlimited potential but just think the brakes need to be pumped a bit. Two years ago, the team “got it” just a bit too late, and last year’s was absolutely great until it wasn’t. Nothing about sports is a given, one just needs to look at the Mets and Yankees to see the fragility of long seasons and high expectations.
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Damn it Jim, paragraphs!

(Of course I have no idea what your name is. I am just letting out my frustrations using my best Dr. McCoy voice from Star Trek. Granted, it was a show I barely watched, but the phrase just fit here). 😁
 
kranmars said:
Damn it Jim, paragraphs!

(Of course I have no idea what your name is. I am just letting out my frustrations using my best Dr. McCoy voice from Star Trek. Granted, it was a show I barely watched, but the phrase just fit here). 😁
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Could have gone with Norton! Pal o’mine! Come on now (I know it’s down) Norton!
 
CBA69 said:
I disagree with your comments about Jackson. According to last year's stats, Jackson averaged 23.8 minutes per game, fifth on the team and yet he was the second leading scorer (11.9 ppg). His shooting percentages were FG% 45.6, 3PT% 39.5% and FT% 72.3. I live in NC and from what I understand, Davis and Cadeau had the ball in their hands a lot more than Jackson did.
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So, if a player scores 20 one game and 4 the next he is averaging 12 points a game but had good moments and was a non factor at the same time.

And for the stats, Jackson had 8 games with 20 points or more and 9 with 5 or less, hence my comment.
 
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logen said:
So, if a player scores 20 one game and 4 the next he is averaging 12 points a game but had good moments and was a non factor at the same time.

And for the stats, Jackson had 8 games with 20 points or more and 9 with 5 or less, hence my comment.
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I'm curious. What were the amount of shots on average he took in those 20 point games vs the 5 points or less on average ?
 
logen said:
So, if a player scores 20 one game and 4 the next he is averaging 12 points a game but had good moments and was a non factor at the same time.

And for the stats, Jackson had 8 games with 20 points or more and 9 with 5 or less, hence my comment.
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You're basing your argument on a "what if scenario". I'm basing mine on actual statistics. Also, if he didn't get the ball from the guards and was only number 5 in minutes played, there are going to be games where he scored 5 or less points, hence my comment.
 
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