New York Mets 2025 Season

Marillac2 said:
Kent and Mitchell were clearly steroids. The Bay area is the PED capital led by the Stanford and Cal labs.

Even over the last 5-7 years the Giants have been able to get some very suspicious results from older players.
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I never really thought about Mitchell and steroids. You are likely right, however he was already becoming a good player in 1986 as a 23 year old so it was still a very bad trade. Howard Johnson had a career year in 1989 also, so was he on steroids. Impossible to know. After McGwire's rookie year in 1987 it gets very confusing.
 
sjc88 said:
Highlights the problem with the Mets approach to pitching. This is a playoff team we have depth in the rotation. Question is who do we trust when facing a Dodgers or Phillies lineup when we are facing say a Yamamoto or Wheeler? Megill? Canning? Peterson? Manaea? etc. Mets need to answer that question or we might be facing a good but not good enough ending again.
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Tonight Is a good example. Peterson vs Fried.
 
Andrew said:
I never really thought about Mitchell and steroids. You are likely right, however he was already becoming a good player in 1986 as a 23 year old so it was still a very bad trade. Howard Johnson had a career year in 1989 also, so was he on steroids. Impossible to know. After McGwire's rookie year in 1987 it gets very confusing.
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Hojo’s stats are within a more narrow range over a longer time. He hit 36-38 3x followed separated by a slight dip into the 20s. He never hit more than 10 homers after his age 30 season.

Guys Mitchell and Brady Anderson came out of nowhere to hit 47 and 50, respectively, and never came close before or after.

Jeff Kent made all of his 5 all star games between 31-37 which is not a natural aging — and did it beside Barry Bonds in SF (same place Mitchell hit 47).
 
Marillac2 said:
Hojo’s stats are within a more narrow range over a longer time. He hit 36-38 3x followed separated by a slight dip into the 20s. He never hit more than 10 homers after his age 30 season.

Guys Mitchell and Brady Anderson came out of nowhere to hit 47 and 50, respectively, and never came close before or after.

Jeff Kent made all of his 5 all star games between 31-37 which is not a natural aging — and did it beside Barry Bonds in SF (same place Mitchell hit 47).
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It is interesting though that in 1994 Mitchell hit 30 HR’s in 300 at bats in Cincinnati so maybe he was an early user like McGwire who was in Oakland.
 
sjc88 said:
Highlights the problem with the Mets approach to pitching. This is a playoff team we have depth in the rotation. Question is who do we trust when facing a Dodgers or Phillies lineup when we are facing say a Yamamoto or Wheeler? Megill? Canning? Peterson? Manaea? etc. Mets need to answer that question or we might be facing a good but not good enough ending again.
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Might be in the minority here, but I love the approach. Stock up on really good #2 and #3 types and backfill with a bunch of #4 though #6 types with high ceilings on 1-2 year prove it deals with value.

I think it’s generally a losing strategy to bid for aces in free agency.

If we go into the playoffs healthy, I absolutely love Senga, Peterson, Manaea, and Holmes 1-4. Maybe Canning keeps this sorcery up too.
 
Marillac2 said:
Might be in the minority here, but I love the approach. Stock up on really good #2 and #3 types and backfill with a bunch of #4 though #6 types with high ceilings on 1-2 year prove it deals with value.

I think it’s generally a losing strategy to bid for aces in free agency.

If we go into the playoffs healthy, I absolutely love Senga, Peterson, Manaea, and Holmes 1-4. Maybe Canning keeps this sorcery up too.
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And who's to say we can't trade for one. I'd love a Sandy Alcantara reclamation project.
 
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