fan since 65
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You do know that we’re not the only school looking for additional money in this environment, right? As tasteless as it may be. As to your point about whether they do it correctly, agree
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huge mistake with annual reseat I don’t think it’s going to affect 114 at msg but they need to understand it’s a family like atmosphere ( I pleasantly disagree on the experience because it’s a sporting event but 114 wouldn’t be 114 without our entire crew ) that’s why if 1 person can’t get 114 we all leave and go somewhere else in the arena
The first time they did this was doing the Norm years (his last year IIRC).
I don’t get this mindset…
Rick IS running the show- Repole and a lot of Others are bankrolling us… not sure if you have noticed the roster… but some real fine player$ put together… its an Absolutely perfect time for this process.
You want them to operate in a “risk-measured” mindset?
“Let’s not increase the ticket prices or reseat- we might hire a bad coach next”
“Eh scrap the practice facility- we might be bad once Rick leaves”…
Rick and co will leave this program head and shoulders above where he found it. The next coach will be standing on the shoulders of Giants and be built for success
Of course on your first point. I’ve been clear that it’s to be expected to pay more.You do know that we’re not the only school looking for additional money in this environment, right? As tasteless as it may be. As to your point about whether they do it correctly, agree
And I do not consider asking for more money tasteless by itself. Asking for more money like the mafia does “nice seats you have there, it would be a shame if something happened to them” makes things somewhat more questionable to me. Whether other schools do it or not. I don’t have tickets with them.
Asking over and over again for said money without providing any information on whether the ultimate product is even worth buying (zero information on ticket prices) is definitely not straightforward from my point of view.
I agree with you completely, hopefully everyone is not moved all around. The past few seasons we sit in 117 but we know to look left for guys in the 114 as well as so many other great fans (friends) we've met going to all the games!
blackpeter24
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Not happy with the criteria used to award points. I am a season ticket holder since 1971 but I only received credit for 29 years as a season ticket holder because the SJU season ticket sales records go back only 29 years. Is that my fault?
Also no matter how many tickets you purchase you only receive credit/points for the purchase of one season ticket. I have paid for at least four season tickets for 45 years and for some of those years I paid for six season tickets. I am not happy
Also no matter how many tickets you purchase you only receive credit/points for the purchase of one season ticket. I have paid for at least four season tickets for 45 years and for some of those years I paid for six season tickets. I am not happy
upstate redman
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Fwiw I called the box office today to ask questions and was told there are 9000 seats in the lower bowl. Of course, I would rather be center court 200s in row 1 than say behind the hoop in the 100s but with 9000 tickets and only about 5k (at most season tickets), MSG packages should have a chance for decent seats. I was in 110 this year and hope to stay (or move to 114 to face the bench and maybe meet some folks from here).
Of someone can answer briefly (or lengthy in you have time), I'd appreciate a better understanding of Ticketmaster
Beyond regular alum / fan who gets season tix or even a regular business...does Ticketmaster buy mass amounts of season tix at all different seating price points ? If so, do they get what's left after general fans or do good seats go to them at same time in bulk too?
Beyond regular alum / fan who gets season tix or even a regular business...does Ticketmaster buy mass amounts of season tix at all different seating price points ? If so, do they get what's left after general fans or do good seats go to them at same time in bulk too?
SJUDave
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This is a conversation you need to have with your ticket rep...there need to be some exceptions made for people who have the longevity you have.
At the end of the day, money talks. And in this climate that's the end all be all, i know people don't want to hear that but it's the truth. You don't get a roster like we do any other way. It's the basis for everything they are doing right now. To sustain this type of infusion of talent year over year while Coach Pitino is here and beyond.
While they are putting a lot of weight on donations to the school, basketball program/athletics and NIL, (like everyone else around the country is) if you have two decades as a loyal season ticket holder or more, there should be some kind of additional 10-20k point bump for the sake of sticktuitiveness for a lack of a better word! Just my two cents
SJUDave
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I asked someone yesterday that is familiar with the reseat situation and they did not get the impression there would be an annual reseat.
billthetruth
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To quote Al Davis: "Just Win Baby"
Ask the Steinbrenner family how attendance was when the team was floundering in the early 1990s. Yankees Stadium was a ghost town.
St. John's better win consistently from here on forward. No problem with trying to reseat people when the good times are rolling, but those holders who are reseated will not be as accommodating to the ticket office if the team starts losing after Pitino retires. They were begging my family to keep our three seats in 2008 (following the Jarvis and Roberts debacles) and offering many incentives, including seat location upgrades, to ensure our annual season ticket money did not leave town. My dad who loved SJU and was a graduate in the 1960s stayed the course through the lean years, the new generations who are brought up on social media and instant gratification will tell the ticket office if they have to in a post-Pitino era to go !@@#$% themselves if the losing resurfaces again.
It is a slippery slope the ticket office is taking (I totally get it in this new era), but the wins better keep coming or I can easily see the day when 6,000 people are at the Garden on a Tuesday night for Xavier again.
Ask the Steinbrenner family how attendance was when the team was floundering in the early 1990s. Yankees Stadium was a ghost town.
St. John's better win consistently from here on forward. No problem with trying to reseat people when the good times are rolling, but those holders who are reseated will not be as accommodating to the ticket office if the team starts losing after Pitino retires. They were begging my family to keep our three seats in 2008 (following the Jarvis and Roberts debacles) and offering many incentives, including seat location upgrades, to ensure our annual season ticket money did not leave town. My dad who loved SJU and was a graduate in the 1960s stayed the course through the lean years, the new generations who are brought up on social media and instant gratification will tell the ticket office if they have to in a post-Pitino era to go !@@#$% themselves if the losing resurfaces again.
It is a slippery slope the ticket office is taking (I totally get it in this new era), but the wins better keep coming or I can easily see the day when 6,000 people are at the Garden on a Tuesday night for Xavier again.
Let's be clear. Ticket sales hardly put a dent in the cost of coaches and players in this era. One donor is financing the player payroll to realize his dream of a national championship. Without that we have a HOF coach and a likely good team, not great.
I agree totally that season ticket holders should amass more than 100 points per consecutive seasons of tickets. The school recognizes that but the system is locked in for this reseating. I'm advocating for tweaking the new point system at the highest levels, and I think can get it done - though not in time for this upcoming season.
In the meantime I think the only folks deeply affected will and maybe should be the folks with amazing seats with near zero levels of donations. Even then, at MSG at least, the first 5500 seats are good to great so even if a ticket holder got bounced from courtside (or close) seats, they can still be in good seats at msg. CA is another story though.
Honestly I don't even know what will happen to my seats. I believe i would qualify for better seats but am wary that they could even be worse.
The safest thing to do is to pledge 10-20k which can be paid out over x years, or make an estate gift. If SJU clearly articulated what type of donation is needed to retain same or similsr seats, i believe many STH who even now are expressing financial duress will find a way to make that commitment.
But honestly if there is financial duress getting moved to cheaper seats may provide relief.
In any event, right now we are the best value ticket in town - HOF coach, championship caliber roster, playing home games at the mecca of basketball.
I've communicated the essence of your sentiment at the highest levels. Before Lavin arrived we had less than 2000 STH. No matter where your seats are if we return to futility, STH will take a big hit. What will be left are the diehards who are here and have been for decades.
passitback
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Best news yet... Thanks.
SJUDave
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I don't disagree with this, but fully understand that it's a gargantuan ask for approx 80% of STH - even if you break that up over 5 years or so.
redfanOO00ddkk
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I agree. Season ticket holder for 34 years and have 6 tickets.
Some BS. I'll tell the IRS that I only have records that go back to March of this year.
Maybe I should send them cancelled checks for the other 25 years that don't count.
50 years with 6 seats. I will guarantee that we will have a dip when Pitino leaves and congress passes bills to level the playing field. They'll be begging for us to keep our seats.
This whole situation is sickening. But its a lesson to my 12 and 7 year old. Loyalty means so much. But cash means more.
I took a quick glance at UConn since they have been doing something similar. Not gonna bore people with links. They also have priority points but don't cap the years on consecutive season tickets (something I wholeheartedly agree with everyone on this board about being a major flaw in our system -- recordkeeping or not, figure it out).
But get this, they promised "forever seats" in 2019 that wouldn't be up for re-seating and five years later, already going back on it. That is pretty awful. Don't think anyone here would call UConn mom and pop.
"Since this announcement, there has been discourse online over if this decision for the seat-selection process is a good one, especially for those who have “Forever Seats.”
In 2019, UConn Athletics announced on their website a process called Forever Seats in which season ticket holders could pick their seats and keep them “year after year when they renew.” This meant that as long as the ticket holder renewed the 2019-2020 season seats every year, the seats could be theirs forever if they paid the associated costs each year.
Due to the renovations, those with “Forever Seats” are not guaranteed their specifically chosen seats anymore."
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But get this, they promised "forever seats" in 2019 that wouldn't be up for re-seating and five years later, already going back on it. That is pretty awful. Don't think anyone here would call UConn mom and pop.
"Since this announcement, there has been discourse online over if this decision for the seat-selection process is a good one, especially for those who have “Forever Seats.”
In 2019, UConn Athletics announced on their website a process called Forever Seats in which season ticket holders could pick their seats and keep them “year after year when they renew.” This meant that as long as the ticket holder renewed the 2019-2020 season seats every year, the seats could be theirs forever if they paid the associated costs each year.
Due to the renovations, those with “Forever Seats” are not guaranteed their specifically chosen seats anymore."
Changes coming to Gampel Pavilion, and Hartford XL Center: How season ticket holders will be affected
The University of Connecticut Athletics Department announced on Oct. 10 that renovations to Gampel Pavillion’s lower-level seating and changes to seating in the XL Center will require season ticket…
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