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This deserves it's own topic. As my usual defense of Chris Mullin gets deleted, I'll keep it brief.

Zach is vigorously defending his anti-mullin narrative with a mini tweet storm. As if Mullin and the SJU program sprung from Adam's rib 4 years ago and Mullin got it kicked out of Eden.

The sport writers seem to forget that the program, the staff, and any subsequent news articles would probably not exist if Elijah Ingram hadn't flipped on his cell phone in the Pittsburg hotel. That was how bad we were, and how far down we had fallen.

I can't believe that you can analyze Mullin without looking at the cumulative picture of where this program had been.

Consider to that Brazziller was a big part of the anti Mullin narrative all year, is this guy an opportunist? He's written extensively about (and benefitted professionally from) the ongoing collapse of the program.

Does anyone see a conflict here? He benefits from this failure. And now he is doubling down on his anti-Mullin narrative.

Is anyone else sick of this guy and his take on the program!
 
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I don't care for Zach either. He is whiney, and talks about responsible joirnalism, when he gets jumped on a story. Even though he covers the college hoops beat.

But I also don't care for the different ways you can try to slide pro-Mullin comments whenever possible. Even creating one (like you have done now).
 
I am not anti-Mullin at all. But you are just FOS to say that you defending Mullin is getting deleted.
 
Nothing to be pro-Mullin about. I think there has been a fair amount of disinformation about his time but at the end if the day, he and his staff did a horrible job with a talented, experienced team. Those teams should get better, not demonstrably worse as the season progresses. Failed experiment with no evidence things would improve IMO.
 
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[quote="Paul Massell" post=344300]I am not anti-Mullin at all. But you are just FOS to say that you defending Mullin is getting deleted.[/quote]

Actually, I did have a (very) pro Mullin post recently deleted. It was just 'verbous' as any of the excessively common negative, anti-Mullin posts that we saw all year.

So, have you been deleting people's pro- Mullin posts all year? I only ask because, ya know, the program is likely obliterated and the anti-Mullin rhetoric was a big reason why ..
 
Everyone of us would have loved it if the greatest player in school's history restored SJU as a top 25 the program.

It would have been a fairytale.

I was a Mullin backer all the way up to this season's end. The fact that this team was so inconsistent, and played such a horrible play-in game (when they should have been relieved at the second chance), and the recruiting was poor, made me cone to change my opinion.
 
[quote="Brian W." post=344311][quote="Paul Massell" post=344300]I am not anti-Mullin at all. But you are just FOS to say that you defending Mullin is getting deleted.[/quote]

Actually, I did have a (very) pro Mullin post recently deleted. It was just 'verbous' as any of the excessively common negative, anti-Mullin posts that we saw all year.

So, have you been deleting people's pro- Mullin posts all year? I only ask because, ya know, the program is likely obliterated and the anti-Mullin rhetoric was a big reason why ..[/quote]

OK that explains it then. You are totally FOS. If you had paid attention at all you'd know I have spent a ridiculous amount of time defending Mullin for 4 years. If the program is obliterated it is because of bad decisions by the people in charge not because of a redmen.com conspiracy.
 
This one's for you, Liz.

[URL]https://www.cbssports.com/coll...grading-2015s-biggest-hires-four-years-later/[/URL]
College basketball coaching moves: Grading 2015's biggest hires four years later

The hire: Chris Mullin

Grade: D-plus

No, not an "F." Mullin did get his alma mater -- barely -- to the NCAA Tournament. But the Johnnies were a one-and-done in the First Four. I'll probably never forget what Mullin said after St. John's lost in the Big East Tournament this past March. With his team on the bubble, he opted not to lobby for St. John's to even make the field, then admitted his players needed a break from each other.

All told, St. John's went 59-73 in four seasons under Mullin and was 20-52 in Big East competition. The school never finished better than 74th at KenPom, which is damning.
 
Dear Brian your posts were not deleted but rather moved to the Mullin stepping down thread or whatever the name of the thread was. They all related to Mullin not being our coach and there truly was no need to start a new thread , especially when we have new threads starting at a rapid pace. Our job as mods is hard enough and there is no need to complicate it. We get and appreciate that you wanted Mullin to remain as coach but if you don’t want to comprehend that he was absent from campus far too often, was not at all involved with recruiting which is the life blood of every program , was the architect of a poorly constructed staff and the team clearly regressed down the stretch .... then there is little I can say to you.
Please refrain from starting new threads which repeat the point previously made. Thanking you in advance.
 
[quote="redmannorth" post=344335]Dear Brian your posts were not deleted but rather moved to the Mullin stepping down thread or whatever the name of the thread was. They all related to Mullin not being our coach and there truly was no need to start a new thread , especially when we have new threads starting at a rapid pace. Our job as mods is hard enough and there is no need to complicate it. We get and appreciate that you wanted Mullin to remain as coach but if you don’t want to comprehend that he was absent from campus far too often, was not at all involved with recruiting which is the life blood of every program , was the architect of a poorly constructed staff and the team clearly regressed down the stretch .... then there is little I can say to you.
Please refrain from starting new threads which repeat the point previously made. Thanking you in advance.[/quote]

I wholly agree with you saying he shouldn't be starting new threads. You are right. I got no problem with putting an end to that.
That said, why berate him for his opinion? Others have chirped.. Ad nauseam for the last year. Give him some slack.

This was completely unnecessary:

"but if you don’t want to comprehend that he was absent from campus far too often, was not at all involved with recruiting which is the life blood of every program , was the architect of a poorly constructed staff and the team clearly regressed down the stretch .... then there is little I can say to you."

Thank you in advance.
 
Dear SJ NYC
I did not berate him at all. He made the claim his posts were deleted. I explained they were not deleted but rather moved and asked him not to start new threads saying the same thing over and over. Just put it in the Mullin stepping down thread or resigning thread. I then explained why I felt Mullin May have been forced out or did not do such a great job. But I certainly did not berate him. But on the off chance that I did or if you feel I did well then I apologize for my conduct.
 
[quote="redmannorth" post=344394]Dear SJ NYC
I did not berate him at all. He made the claim his posts were deleted. I explained they were not deleted but rather moved and asked him not to start new threads saying the same thing over and over. Just put it in the Mullin stepping down thread or resigning thread. I then explained why I felt Mullin May have been forced out or did not do such a great job. But I certainly did not berate him. But on the off chance that I did or if you feel I did well then I apologize for my conduct.[/quote]
You clearly didn’t berate him. You addressed the deleted post complaint and then you addressed the substance of his post re Mullin. I saw no need for an apology.
 
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