In the unlikely event the NCAA grants seniors another year of eligibility to compensate for cancelling the tournament, might Mustapha return next year? As for LJ, he seems to have connected with Coach Anderson and there looks to be mutual respect between them. Maybe he returns as well? Those two, combined with the younger players who have progressed tremendously this year and incoming recruits including Posh could make for a formidable group.
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redstorm89
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[quote="otis" post=381659]Where in the heck did you get the idea that the NCAA is even considering giving seniors a 5th year to play?[/quote]
its idea that has been floated out there.
its idea that has been floated out there.
Mullins Revenge
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[quote="otis" post=381659]Where in the heck did you get the idea that the NCAA is even considering giving seniors a 5th year to play?[/quote]
Where in the heck did u get the idea that they would not talk about this? There are kids who play spring sports who havent played a game this year. U cant wipe out their final year of eligibility.
I think the ncaa will let all seniors in spring sports return. Winter sports I think is a little different as their season was at the end. But it will be discussed and considered letting them come back too.
Where in the heck did u get the idea that they would not talk about this? There are kids who play spring sports who havent played a game this year. U cant wipe out their final year of eligibility.
I think the ncaa will let all seniors in spring sports return. Winter sports I think is a little different as their season was at the end. But it will be discussed and considered letting them come back too.
[quote="redstorm89" post=381673][quote="otis" post=381659]Where in the heck did you get the idea that the NCAA is even considering giving seniors a 5th year to play?[/quote]
its idea that has been floated out there.[/quote]
Otis the idea has been floated out there. They just discussed on ESPN. Highly unlikely as it is.
https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/...enior-players-an-extra-season-of-eligibility/
its idea that has been floated out there.[/quote]
Otis the idea has been floated out there. They just discussed on ESPN. Highly unlikely as it is.
https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/...enior-players-an-extra-season-of-eligibility/
beast of the east
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To be honest, it does make sense if you play a spring sport to be extended another year of eligibility. Considering that spring sports are not revenue producing and not marquee sports, there wouldn't be a rush of graduate transfers the way it would by giving basketball players another year of eligibility while in school.
I haven't heard that the NCAA is considering it, but it does make sense for spring sports, not for basketball at all.
I haven't heard that the NCAA is considering it, but it does make sense for spring sports, not for basketball at all.
[quote="Beast of the East" post=381690]To be honest, it does make sense if you play a spring sport to be extended another year of eligibility. Considering that spring sports are not revenue producing and not marquee sports, there wouldn't be a rush of graduate transfers the way it would by giving basketball players another year of eligibility while in school.
I haven't heard that the NCAA is considering it, but it does make sense for spring sports, not for basketball at all.[/quote]
I'm sympathetic to the kids plight, especially those that have no more eligibility, but they do call them "Student-Athletes" and not "Athlete-Students" for a reason. People are going to die from this, people are going to lose jobs, businesses and people are going to go bankrupt over the next weeks & months. The last thing universities should be worrying about at this time are whether or not one graduating class gets to play its last season of college athletics.
I haven't heard that the NCAA is considering it, but it does make sense for spring sports, not for basketball at all.[/quote]
I'm sympathetic to the kids plight, especially those that have no more eligibility, but they do call them "Student-Athletes" and not "Athlete-Students" for a reason. People are going to die from this, people are going to lose jobs, businesses and people are going to go bankrupt over the next weeks & months. The last thing universities should be worrying about at this time are whether or not one graduating class gets to play its last season of college athletics.
[quote="sjc88" post=381679][quote="redstorm89" post=381673][quote="otis" post=381659]Where in the heck did you get the idea that the NCAA is even considering giving seniors a 5th year to play?[/quote]
its idea that has been floated out there.[/quote]
Otis the idea has been floated out there. They just discussed on ESPN. Highly unlikely as it is.
https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/...enior-players-an-extra-season-of-eligibility/[/quote]
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If adopted the continued eligibility would push most teams over the scholarship cap.
its idea that has been floated out there.[/quote]
Otis the idea has been floated out there. They just discussed on ESPN. Highly unlikely as it is.
https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/...enior-players-an-extra-season-of-eligibility/[/quote]
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If adopted the continued eligibility would push most teams over the scholarship cap.
[quote="otis" post=381724][quote="sjc88" post=381679][quote="redstorm89" post=381673][quote="otis" post=381659]Where in the heck did you get the idea that the NCAA is even considering giving seniors a 5th year to play?[/quote]
its idea that has been floated out there.[/quote]
Otis the idea has been floated out there. They just discussed on ESPN. Highly unlikely as it is.
https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/...enior-players-an-extra-season-of-eligibility/[/quote]
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If adopted the continued eligibility would push most teams over the scholarship cap.[/quote]
I'm sure they could waive that for one year if they wanted to, but given how little the NCAA cares about its athletes, I wouldn't bet on it.
its idea that has been floated out there.[/quote]
Otis the idea has been floated out there. They just discussed on ESPN. Highly unlikely as it is.
https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/...enior-players-an-extra-season-of-eligibility/[/quote]
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If adopted the continued eligibility would push most teams over the scholarship cap.[/quote]
I'm sure they could waive that for one year if they wanted to, but given how little the NCAA cares about its athletes, I wouldn't bet on it.
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SeattleJohnny
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Jeff Goodman
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The NCAA’s Council Coordination Committee has agreed to grant relief for the use of a season of competition for student-athletes who have participated in spring sports.
Committee will also discuss issues for winter sport student-athletes.
Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
Players in spring sports get another year of eligibility.
NCAA looking into what to do with those who played winter sports.
@GoodmanHoops
The NCAA’s Council Coordination Committee has agreed to grant relief for the use of a season of competition for student-athletes who have participated in spring sports.
Committee will also discuss issues for winter sport student-athletes.
Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
Players in spring sports get another year of eligibility.
NCAA looking into what to do with those who played winter sports.
beast of the east
Active member
I feel for Seton Hall. I think they had a final four type of team that could have competed for the national championship.
[quote="Beast of the East" post=381747]I feel for Seton Hall. I think they had a final four type of team that could have competed for the national championship.[/quote]
Dayton as well. Imagine St. John’s had a team that was that strong. It would be crushing.
Dayton as well. Imagine St. John’s had a team that was that strong. It would be crushing.
WillyDilly
Member
[quote="SeattleJohnny" post=381744]Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
The NCAA’s Council Coordination Committee has agreed to grant relief for the use of a season of competition for student-athletes who have participated in spring sports.
Committee will also discuss issues for winter sport student-athletes.
Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
Players in spring sports get another year of eligibility.
NCAA looking into what to do with those who played winter sports.[/quote]
This is going to be a lot more complicated than just "Players in spring sports get another year of eligibility."
Will the school be required to take them back?
Will the students be permitted to transfer to a different school?
Is that student guaranteed a scholarship from their school? If so, what happens if the school does not have any available scholarships?
ESPN had Hartford's head coach and senior Malik Ellison (yes, our former player) in studio for an interview yesterday afternoon. Hartford's coach said that after he heard the news of the tournament being cancelled, he called the team into a meeting, and broke the news to them. He basically told them the news, and that's the way it is, and it sucks, but life isn't always fair, and they will have to move on and get over it.
And I don't think there is any way they can give winter athletes another year of eligibility. While it sucks for the senior members of the 68 tournament teams, there are a lot more seniors on teams that did not make a post season tournament, so their season was already done regardless. And what's one more year going to get them anyway? They would be able to start a master's degree program, but that's about it. They may be able to take a few classes to get a minor in one thing or another, but I don't see a whole lot of educational value in either path.
The approach the NCAA should take with all of this is that it's no one's fault that this is going on, but the reality is that it is happening, life isn't always fair, and people need to move on.
@GoodmanHoops
The NCAA’s Council Coordination Committee has agreed to grant relief for the use of a season of competition for student-athletes who have participated in spring sports.
Committee will also discuss issues for winter sport student-athletes.
Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
Players in spring sports get another year of eligibility.
NCAA looking into what to do with those who played winter sports.[/quote]
This is going to be a lot more complicated than just "Players in spring sports get another year of eligibility."
Will the school be required to take them back?
Will the students be permitted to transfer to a different school?
Is that student guaranteed a scholarship from their school? If so, what happens if the school does not have any available scholarships?
ESPN had Hartford's head coach and senior Malik Ellison (yes, our former player) in studio for an interview yesterday afternoon. Hartford's coach said that after he heard the news of the tournament being cancelled, he called the team into a meeting, and broke the news to them. He basically told them the news, and that's the way it is, and it sucks, but life isn't always fair, and they will have to move on and get over it.
And I don't think there is any way they can give winter athletes another year of eligibility. While it sucks for the senior members of the 68 tournament teams, there are a lot more seniors on teams that did not make a post season tournament, so their season was already done regardless. And what's one more year going to get them anyway? They would be able to start a master's degree program, but that's about it. They may be able to take a few classes to get a minor in one thing or another, but I don't see a whole lot of educational value in either path.
The approach the NCAA should take with all of this is that it's no one's fault that this is going on, but the reality is that it is happening, life isn't always fair, and people need to move on.
I’m sure someone will say logistically it’s impossible. But how bout this idea as it regards to NCAA Bball.
Next season they:
- Cancel all out of conference games through November (5 games per team)
- Hold the 2020 tournament at the beginning of the season during November.
- Start the 2020-2021 season in December with a shortened OOC slate.
In this (probably impossible) scenario you could allow the seniors who just missed out one more semester of eligibility to compete in the fall tournament. If they chose to do so they would then be done in December.
Obviously there are some big reasons why not do it like what the other 300 teams do during this time etc. but who doesn’t want to see a 2020 tournament? And who wouldn’t be excited as hell to pick it right up from there following some actually meaningful OOC games? Surprised I havnt at least seen it discussed.
Next season they:
- Cancel all out of conference games through November (5 games per team)
- Hold the 2020 tournament at the beginning of the season during November.
- Start the 2020-2021 season in December with a shortened OOC slate.
In this (probably impossible) scenario you could allow the seniors who just missed out one more semester of eligibility to compete in the fall tournament. If they chose to do so they would then be done in December.
Obviously there are some big reasons why not do it like what the other 300 teams do during this time etc. but who doesn’t want to see a 2020 tournament? And who wouldn’t be excited as hell to pick it right up from there following some actually meaningful OOC games? Surprised I havnt at least seen it discussed.
prjohnnies
Member
I feel for Powell, McKnight and Gill. All seemed like good kids I'd want on my team.
I feel no sympathy for their coach. And I'd bet dollars to donuts he is working back channels to press the NCAA to grant eligibility to seniors who played a winter sport -- which is insane -- because I think he was hoping to parlay a deep tourney run into another gig (remember in 10 years he's won a single tournament game). He'll then prey on the good nature of a kid like Myles Powell and their other seniors to convince them to return to school, even though it makes no sense for any kid with a degree and the ability to start making money (which all 3 of their kids can professionally).
[quote="Beast of the East" post=381747]I feel for Seton Hall. I think they had a final four type of team that could have competed for the national championship.[/quote]
I feel no sympathy for their coach. And I'd bet dollars to donuts he is working back channels to press the NCAA to grant eligibility to seniors who played a winter sport -- which is insane -- because I think he was hoping to parlay a deep tourney run into another gig (remember in 10 years he's won a single tournament game). He'll then prey on the good nature of a kid like Myles Powell and their other seniors to convince them to return to school, even though it makes no sense for any kid with a degree and the ability to start making money (which all 3 of their kids can professionally).
[quote="Beast of the East" post=381747]I feel for Seton Hall. I think they had a final four type of team that could have competed for the national championship.[/quote]
and Romaro Gill is already 25 years old.
The thing about granting basketball seniors another year, what about the teams that season ended before they cancelled the remainder of the season? Do they get an extra year? What about incoming freshman that were recruited to replace a particular player, would they want to reopen their recruitment? I feel sorry for the seniors who had games left, but they played 30+ games. Time to move on. Spring sports are different circumstances, I dont know what to do there. Can teams honor all scholarships even if over the amount allowed?