Tim Doyle

[quote="Sherman, Sheridan & Grant" post=384413][quote="Moose" post=384410]Interesting read about a former Johnny

[URL]https://www.chicagotribune.com...0200406-vxs67zyuhnfulhsp2xpkjce7b4-story.html[/URL][/quote]

Nice article.
Kids are so young and often so
Immature when they commence college. Takes most of us years to “ grow up”.
Too bad Tim was not ready to be a Redman.

All the best to Tim and family.[/quote]

I beg to differ in terms of ready to be at SJU. Jarvis had zero clue how to use him.
 
I thought he was too slow to play in our league.

Whether or not that is true, he bad mouthed sju after leaving if i recall.

He did have a nice career at nw. Good for him. Pride of st.doms.
 
That’s an interesting article. He definitely carried a grudge against St. John’s on air. I would turn him off. I never realized it extended to others.

This is a good time to realize your shortcomings. I definitely think more about the things that I am not proud of in my life than the good things that I have done. There is little anyone can do but be a better person going forward. Best wishes Tim Doyle. I get it.
 
I have no knowledge about the type of person Tim Doyle was or is ... That being said , I was at the 2007 Big Ten Tourney in Chicago and sawNorthwestern vs Indiana . Indiana was much the better team but , Tim Doyle was the best player on the Court that Day . Single handedly keep the Wildcats in the game. He was a good shooter and great passer , How Jarvis couldn’t find time for him is a mystery .
 
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Tim Doyle played for the AAU team that I was associated with, the New York Panthers. In the summer of 2001, we had the Best AAU team in the Country. On that team were Daryl Hill-StJohns, Taquan Dean Louisville, Curtis Sumpter-Villanova, Charlie Villaneuva-UCONN, Jason Fraser-Villanova, Tim Doyle-StJohns, Marvin McCullough-Iona, Aubin Scott-LIU, and Mike Claxton-Villanova.

Tim was the 6th man and a great teammate. This team won the 3 Stripes tournament at Hofstra, The Big Time Tournament in Las Vegas, and the Double Pump Tournament in Los Angeles. They beat teams featuring Chris Bosh, Carmelo Anthony, Amare Stoudamire, Raymond Felton, Elijah Ingram, and Lebron James.

Tim had an outgoing personality an a sharp wit mixed with a lot of sarcasm. However, when it came to his teammates, he had their backs. Tim was the only white player on the team but fit in seamlessly. He had an ability to adapt to his environment. I believe that he got this from his father who was the same way.

After we came back from Vegas, we played a Showcase game at Rucker Park against a team from Philly. Tim and his father Danny were probably the only Caucasians in the park that day. Tim put on a show with his passing and low post moves, while his father hung out in the stands with some former ballplayers that he knew such as Bobby Hunter and Bob McCullough.

Tim definitely had an edge to him that he may have felt he needed to survive on the Playgrounds of New York as one of the few white ballplayers in his era.

To me, he was always a respectful young man with a great personality. Wishing him the best in all of his future endeavors.
 
[quote="panther2" post=384443]Tim Doyle played for the AAU team that I was associated with, the New York Panthers. In the summer of 2001, we had the Best AAU team in the Country. On that team were Daryl Hill-StJohns, Taquan Dean Louisville, Curtis Sumpter-Villanova, Charlie Villaneuva-UCONN, Jason Fraser-Villanova, Tim Doyle-StJohns, Marvin McCullough-Iona, Aubin Scott-LIU, and Mike Claxton-Villanova.

Tim was the 6th man and a great teammate. This team won the 3 Stripes tournament at Hofstra, The Big Time Tournament in Las Vegas, and the Double Pump Tournament in Los Angeles. They beat teams featuring Chris Bosh, Carmelo Anthony, Amare Stoudamire, Raymond Felton, Elijah Ingram, and Lebron James.

Tim had an outgoing personality an a sharp wit mixed with a lot of sarcasm. However, when it came to his teammates, he had their backs. Tim was the only white player on the team but fit in seamlessly. He had an ability to adapt to his environment. I believe that he got this from his father who was the same way.

After we came back from Vegas, we played a Showcase game at Rucker Park against a team from Philly. Tim and his father Danny were probably the only Caucasians in the park that day. Tim put on a show with his passing and low post moves, while his father hung out in the stands with some former ballplayers that he knew such as Bobby Hunter and Bob McCullough.

Tim definitely had an edge to him that he may have felt he needed to survive on the Playgrounds of New York as one of the few white ballplayers in his era.

To me, he was always a respectful young man with a great personality. Wishing him the best in all of his future endeavors.[/quote]

Great story, thanks for sharing. I watch him often as a commentator for CBS Sports, they have a daily sports program you can watch via the app. You can definitely get a feel for that outgoing personality and wit and sarcasm. Comes off a bit goofy even at times, but is very intelligent.
 
Good article. "You can't spell Nittiny without N-I-T" is a good one.
 
[quote="panther2" post=384443]Tim Doyle played for the AAU team that I was associated with, the New York Panthers. In the summer of 2001, we had the Best AAU team in the Country. On that team were Daryl Hill-StJohns, Taquan Dean Louisville, Curtis Sumpter-Villanova, Charlie Villaneuva-UCONN, Jason Fraser-Villanova, Tim Doyle-StJohns, Marvin McCullough-Iona, Aubin Scott-LIU, and Mike Claxton-Villanova.

Tim was the 6th man and a great teammate. This team won the 3 Stripes tournament at Hofstra, The Big Time Tournament in Las Vegas, and the Double Pump Tournament in Los Angeles. They beat teams featuring Chris Bosh, Carmelo Anthony, Amare Stoudamire, Raymond Felton, Elijah Ingram, and Lebron James.

Tim had an outgoing personality an a sharp wit mixed with a lot of sarcasm. However, when it came to his teammates, he had their backs. Tim was the only white player on the team but fit in seamlessly. He had an ability to adapt to his environment. I believe that he got this from his father who was the same way.

After we came back from Vegas, we played a Showcase game at Rucker Park against a team from Philly. Tim and his father Danny were probably the only Caucasians in the park that day. Tim put on a show with his passing and low post moves, while his father hung out in the stands with some former ballplayers that he knew such as Bobby Hunter and Bob McCullough.

Tim definitely had an edge to him that he may have felt he needed to survive on the Playgrounds of New York as one of the few white ballplayers in his era.

To me, he was always a respectful young man with a great personality. Wishing him the best in all of his future endeavors.[/quote]

I really appreciate you sharing this Panther. As a fan, I hold grudges against guys who bad mouth our program. Billy Donovan supposedly did this for a long time during his playing days because Looie told him he wasn't good enough to play here (but then made a call to Providence (Joe Mullaney?) telling him that Donovan could play at this level, just not at SJU. I've never forgotten that. Of course this was in an era way pre-social media and internet, so his griping was somewhat private and inside info.

Tim Doyle's swipes at our program came at a time with greater media coverage, and thus were slightly more public. Kids who aren't getting the run they think they deserve are all unhappy in one way or another, and Doyle expressed this a little too publicly. This is in synch with the problems that caused his downfall.

Thank you for sharing your own personal experiences with Tim, and giving him very positive props. I'll definitely look at him differently going forward. He was certainly a dominant CHSAA player on Long Island, and physically was a little bigger and stronger than most kids playing in that league in addition to having a solid skill set.

One thing that any athlete in the public eye is not professionally trained in is public relations. Some all time great players - Reggie Jackson and A-Rod come to mind - were absolutely gifted in saying the wrong thing at the wrong time that raised the ire of fans and teammates. College kids are a lot less mature, or at least their age would warrant that we cut them a little more slack.

Apparently his lack of judgment has cost him a lot at this point in his career, and hopefully he gets the second chance to redeem himself. We all deserve that at one point or another.
 
[quote="Room112" post=384445][quote="panther2" post=384443]Tim Doyle played for the AAU team that I was associated with, the New York Panthers. In the summer of 2001, we had the Best AAU team in the Country. On that team were Daryl Hill-StJohns, Taquan Dean Louisville, Curtis Sumpter-Villanova, Charlie Villaneuva-UCONN, Jason Fraser-Villanova, Tim Doyle-StJohns, Marvin McCullough-Iona, Aubin Scott-LIU, and Mike Claxton-Villanova.

Tim was the 6th man and a great teammate. This team won the 3 Stripes tournament at Hofstra, The Big Time Tournament in Las Vegas, and the Double Pump Tournament in Los Angeles. They beat teams featuring Chris Bosh, Carmelo Anthony, Amare Stoudamire, Raymond Felton, Elijah Ingram, and Lebron James.

Tim had an outgoing personality an a sharp wit mixed with a lot of sarcasm. However, when it came to his teammates, he had their backs. Tim was the only white player on the team but fit in seamlessly. He had an ability to adapt to his environment. I believe that he got this from his father who was the same way.

After we came back from Vegas, we played a Showcase game at Rucker Park against a team from Philly. Tim and his father Danny were probably the only Caucasians in the park that day. Tim put on a show with his passing and low post moves, while his father hung out in the stands with some former ballplayers that he knew such as Bobby Hunter and Bob McCullough.

Tim definitely had an edge to him that he may have felt he needed to survive on the Playgrounds of New York as one of the few white ballplayers in his era.

To me, he was always a respectful young man with a great personality. Wishing him the best in all of his future endeavors.[/quote]

Great story, thanks for sharing. I watch him often as a commentator for CBS Sports, they have a daily sports program you can watch via the app. You can definitely get a feel for that outgoing personality and wit and sarcasm. Comes off a bit goofy even at times, but is very intelligent.[/quote]

Not to be lost among this is that Northwestern is a top notch academic school. Not sure if he was a serious student, but it is among the best colleges in America.
 
Tims father Danny Doyle was a legend in the Maspeth, Woodside area .He played for Al Maguire at Belmont Abbey with another Queensite Hank Stanky .Stories are told that he rode a unicycle during warmups at B A .Got to know him when he played for Plateau bar ( now O'Neils ) in the R AN M Touch football league in Astoria area . he played on winning teams in the old L I Star Journal basketball league . He was a teamate of Wally DiMasi who played with Lenny Wilkins at Providence .I'll just put it this way he did like to gamble .
 
[quote="panther2" post=384443]Tim Doyle played for the AAU team that I was associated with, the New York Panthers. In the summer of 2001, we had the Best AAU team in the Country. On that team were Daryl Hill-StJohns, Taquan Dean Louisville, Curtis Sumpter-Villanova, Charlie Villaneuva-UCONN, Jason Fraser-Villanova, Tim Doyle-StJohns, Marvin McCullough-Iona, Aubin Scott-LIU, and Mike Claxton-Villanova.

Tim was the 6th man and a great teammate. This team won the 3 Stripes tournament at Hofstra, The Big Time Tournament in Las Vegas, and the Double Pump Tournament in Los Angeles. They beat teams featuring Chris Bosh, Carmelo Anthony, Amare Stoudamire, Raymond Felton, Elijah Ingram, and Lebron James.

Tim had an outgoing personality an a sharp wit mixed with a lot of sarcasm. However, when it came to his teammates, he had their backs. Tim was the only white player on the team but fit in seamlessly. He had an ability to adapt to his environment. I believe that he got this from his father who was the same way.

After we came back from Vegas, we played a Showcase game at Rucker Park against a team from Philly. Tim and his father Danny were probably the only Caucasians in the park that day. Tim put on a show with his passing and low post moves, while his father hung out in the stands with some former ballplayers that he knew such as Bobby Hunter and Bob McCullough.

Tim definitely had an edge to him that he may have felt he needed to survive on the Playgrounds of New York as one of the few white ballplayers in his era.

To me, he was always a respectful young man with a great personality. Wishing him the best in all of his future endeavors.[/quote]
I worked with Tim’s brother back in the mid-90s. He was also a good player having been a starting PG for Iona. Met his dad once (he got us owner’s box tix to the Mets) as well Tim, when he was kid, thru his brother. Tough, hard nosed family. Backing down ,as you note Panther, was not in their DNA.
 
This is all fun for me to read as I heard him on sports talk radio and when they introduced him I said that can't be the same guy who transferred out of SJU. But as he spoke more and more it became clear it was. I never heard about nor followed him once he left us.

In the radio spot he did have a pretty funny line about his career at St. John's something like he was a "30-30 man" meaning he'd only ever get into a game if the team was up by 30 or down by 30.

I laughed at that and he was witty and funny, but frankly did not sound all that polished so when I read about his gigs, I am a little surprised.

Northwestern being academically elite, he is probably bright but who knows.

Panther2 reports lots of positive stuff so I will go along with that.

Me not on Tim's level at all, but back in my day, the really talented while ballplayers used to come to my park sometines, Foster Park on Nostrand Ave. in Flatbush, because we had really talented games there on the first court msotly starring black ballplayers from Erasmus and Tilton Boys, High Schools etc., Mike Dunlevy would play there, Chris Mullin later, and earlier George Bruns of Manhattan and JIm McMIllan who played at Columbia and Kenny Charles who I think played at Fordham.

Anyway, Rodney the street agent had his hooks into the most talented guys in Foster Park Read Heaven is a Playground by a SI writer to learn about that scene.
 
So true and so defining about Jarvis.and his less than illustrious career.

Tim was bright and enrolled at Northwestern excellent academically but a bottom of the barrel basketball team
in a very competitive and highly regarded league.

Tim had a first year there, where suddenly a talented ball player rose from the ashes.
His second year he was brilliant and led a lowly team to respectability. He could score but also a terrific passer and a real team player. A delight to coach.

Funny what a change of scenery and good coaching can do to potential.

I live in southeast Florida and Jarvis," coached," for the university in my town.

His change of scenery just confirmed that he was as bad as we thought. It was riding on
Fran's recruiting and after that zilch minus form Jarvis.
 
There is a crew of STJ folks all around you. Talia's Table on Dixie highway is owned by a former second baseman for STJ.
 
Thanks for the info Fuchsia.

We have a large luncheon, 600 former NYC players and/or fans every December at The Polo Club
in Delray Beach. Not so sure about this year, Corona Virus.

Outsiders are welcome, I live in Boca Raton, @ $60.00 per which includes a nice lunch and basketball speakers, great inside stories, via famous pro players.
whose names you would know..

They give out a magazine with all our names on it and the table number each individual is seated at.

It is a memorable event if you are a college basketball lover. Thus, if any posters are in the area go and enjoy.
 
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