This year's team compared to next year's team

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Heron / Cole -.both go to.the hoop. Cole is a very good shooter whereas Heron isn't,.so they'll have to play up on Coles, he could fake drive.and hit a
step back three. HERON.cannot do that.
LJ / Wusu - I'm thinking wusu could atleast equal LJ. LJ just isn't that good.
He'll put up.pnts on 5 of 17 shooting and 1/8 from 3. Wusu has a BE body so he'll hold his own on the boards.
Posh, McGriff / Dunn - Dunn isn't a PG, that right there is all that is needed to be said.
Moore should be able to help in the front court alot next year

Then all the guys will have experience from playing this year.

Opinions?
 
[quote="CMA TIME" post=372767]
LJ / Wusu - I'm thinking wusu could atleast equal LJ. LJ just isn't that good.
He'll put up.pnts on 5 of 17 shooting and 1/8 from 3. Wusu has a BE body so he'll hold his own on the boards.
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I’m high on Wusu..This is insane.
 
[quote="Amaseinyourface" post=372769][quote="CMA TIME" post=372767]
LJ / Wusu - I'm thinking wusu could atleast equal LJ. LJ just isn't that good.
He'll put up.pnts on 5 of 17 shooting and 1/8 from 3. Wusu has a BE body so he'll hold his own on the boards.
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I’m high on Wusu..This is insane.[/quote]

I'm high on wusu also, but he'll be a freshman, I think he'll be better then lj, and get say 16 /7, 8 a game as a sophomore, i just don't like asking for to much from freshmen.

Was saying as a freshman I think wusu can equal LJ.
 
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[quote="CMA TIME" post=372771][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=372769][quote="CMA TIME" post=372767]
LJ / Wusu - I'm thinking wusu could atleast equal LJ. LJ just isn't that good.
He'll put up.pnts on 5 of 17 shooting and 1/8 from 3. Wusu has a BE body so he'll hold his own on the boards.
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I’m high on Wusu..This is insane.[/quote]

I'm high on wusu also, but he'll be a freshman, I think he'll be better then lj, and get say 16 /7, 8 a game as a sophomore, i just don't like asking for to much from freshmen.

Was saying as a freshman I think wusu can equal LJ.[/quote]

And I’m saying, saying that is insane ;)

No matter how night you are on Wusu.
 
Much better offensively next year. I think our defense takes a step back. NIT would be fabulous. 2020 recruiting class will be a fun group to watch, grow and develop.
 
What about the 6'10 juco transfer. he could be a major upgrade over Roberts.

Posh and Wusu are 3 star kids. Is the reason they are not 4 or 5 star kids is that they cant shoot? Oh please I hope that is not it.
 
[quote="Amaseinyourface" post=372777][quote="CMA TIME" post=372771][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=372769][quote="CMA TIME" post=372767]
LJ / Wusu - I'm thinking wusu could atleast equal LJ. LJ just isn't that good.
He'll put up.pnts on 5 of 17 shooting and 1/8 from 3. Wusu has a BE body so he'll hold his own on the boards.
[/quote]

I’m high on Wusu..This is insane.[/quote]

I'm high on wusu also, but he'll be a freshman, I think he'll be better then lj, and get say 16 /7, 8 a game as a sophomore, i just don't like asking for to much from freshmen.

Was saying as a freshman I think wusu can equal LJ.[/quote]

And I’m saying, saying that is insane ;)

No matter how night you are on Wusu.[/quote]

Why is LJ so great, bee ause he scores 17pnts?
Bet if wusu hit 6/19, 3/12, and 2/4 from the ft line he he also get 17pnts.
He might get alittle less boards than lj but so what.

The 6'10 juco kjd is moore
 
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[quote="Duke of Earlington" post=372780]What about the 6'10 juco transfer. he could be a major upgrade over Roberts.

Posh and Wusu are 3 star kids. Is the reason they are not 4 or 5 star kids is that they cant shoot? Oh please I hope that is not it.[/quote]

Posh broke his arm, before that he was a top 100 player
 
[quote="CMA TIME" post=372782][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=372780]What about the 6'10 juco transfer. he could be a major upgrade over Roberts.

Posh and Wusu are 3 star kids. Is the reason they are not 4 or 5 star kids is that they cant shoot? Oh please I hope that is not it.[/quote]

Posh broke his arm, before that he was a top 100 player[/quote]

If posh is open is he going to knock down the 3 ball?
 
[quote="CMA TIME" post=372767]Heron / Cole -.both go to.the hoop. Cole is a very good shooter whereas Heron isn't,.so they'll have to play up on Coles, he could fake drive.and hit a
step back three. HERON.cannot do that.
LJ / Wusu - I'm thinking wusu could atleast equal LJ. LJ just isn't that good.
He'll put up.pnts on 5 of 17 shooting and 1/8 from 3. Wusu has a BE body so he'll hold his own on the boards.
Posh, McGriff / Dunn - Dunn isn't a PG, that right there is all that is needed to be said.
Moore should be able to help in the front court alot next year

Then all the guys will have experience from playing this year.

Opinions?[/quote]

Recency bias is playing a big part in this opinion. No, he hasn't had a good shooting year on 3's and his typical floaters, but the all around game of LJ is one of the best in the league. His high IQ, rebounding ability and long arms on defense put him above many BE players, let alone a senior in high school.
 
[quote="CMA TIME" post=372782][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=372780]What about the 6'10 juco transfer. he could be a major upgrade over Roberts.

Posh and Wusu are 3 star kids. Is the reason they are not 4 or 5 star kids is that they cant shoot? Oh please I hope that is not it.[/quote]

Posh broke his arm, before that he was a top 100 player[/quote]

Didn't Dave DeBusschere once break his right hand or wrist or something, and spent his rehab working on his left and came back with a surprising left hand?
 
[quote="SJU14" post=372786][quote="CMA TIME" post=372767]Heron / Cole -.both go to.the hoop. Cole is a very good shooter whereas Heron isn't,.so they'll have to play up on Coles, he could fake drive.and hit a
step back three. HERON.cannot do that.
LJ / Wusu - I'm thinking wusu could atleast equal LJ. LJ just isn't that good.
He'll put up.pnts on 5 of 17 shooting and 1/8 from 3. Wusu has a BE body so he'll hold his own on the boards.
Posh, McGriff / Dunn - Dunn isn't a PG, that right there is all that is needed to be said.
Moore should be able to help in the front court alot next year

Then all the guys will have experience from playing this year.

Opinions?[/quote]

Recency bias is playing a big part in this opinion. No, he hasn't had a good shooting year on 3's and his typical floaters, but the all around game of LJ is one of the best in the league. His high IQ, rebounding ability and long arms on defense put him above many BE players, let alone a senior in high school.[/quote]

I agree here. LJ is excellent but needs a cast around him and he gets better. With a Pg, other scorers and maybe a big guy, he’d be fantastic. I don’t think there’s a shot at it but I’d love him to stay. Imagine posh at pg, Dunn moves to his sg role. At times we’d be able to play with several scoring wings like Figueroa, Cole and evening a stretch 4 in Moore that can score? Let’s not undersell LJ Figueroa just because he might not be an NBA talent. The kid is excellent and we’d all LOVE for him to be on this team alongside a few more scorers. He’s tough as nails and can do a lot of things.
 
[quote="MCNPA" post=372794][quote="SJU14" post=372786][quote="CMA TIME" post=372767]Heron / Cole -.both go to.the hoop. Cole is a very good shooter whereas Heron isn't,.so they'll have to play up on Coles, he could fake drive.and hit a
step back three. HERON.cannot do that.
LJ / Wusu - I'm thinking wusu could atleast equal LJ. LJ just isn't that good.
He'll put up.pnts on 5 of 17 shooting and 1/8 from 3. Wusu has a BE body so he'll hold his own on the boards.
Posh, McGriff / Dunn - Dunn isn't a PG, that right there is all that is needed to be said.
Moore should be able to help in the front court alot next year

Then all the guys will have experience from playing this year.

Opinions?[/quote]

Recency bias is playing a big part in this opinion. No, he hasn't had a good shooting year on 3's and his typical floaters, but the all around game of LJ is one of the best in the league. His high IQ, rebounding ability and long arms on defense put him above many BE players, let alone a senior in high school.[/quote]

I agree here. LJ is excellent but needs a cast around him and he gets better. With a Pg, other scorers and maybe a big guy, he’d be fantastic. I don’t think there’s a shot at it but I’d love him to stay. Imagine posh at pg, Dunn moves to his sg role. At times we’d be able to play with several scoring wings like Figueroa, Cole and evening a stretch 4 in Moore that can score? Let’s not undersell LJ Figueroa just because he might not be an NBA talent. The kid is excellent and we’d all LOVE for him to be on this team alongside a few more scorers. He’s tough as nails and can do a lot of things.[/quote]

Then he'd be dumb to leave. We'd have that pg (posh), scorer/shooter (cole), big (gray)? If they help him become a better player then he'd open up scouts eyes.
 
[quote="CMA TIME" post=372796][quote="MCNPA" post=372794][quote="SJU14" post=372786][quote="CMA TIME" post=372767]Heron / Cole -.both go to.the hoop. Cole is a very good shooter whereas Heron isn't,.so they'll have to play up on Coles, he could fake drive.and hit a
step back three. HERON.cannot do that.
LJ / Wusu - I'm thinking wusu could atleast equal LJ. LJ just isn't that good.
He'll put up.pnts on 5 of 17 shooting and 1/8 from 3. Wusu has a BE body so he'll hold his own on the boards.
Posh, McGriff / Dunn - Dunn isn't a PG, that right there is all that is needed to be said.
Moore should be able to help in the front court alot next year

Then all the guys will have experience from playing this year.

Opinions?[/quote]

Recency bias is playing a big part in this opinion. No, he hasn't had a good shooting year on 3's and his typical floaters, but the all around game of LJ is one of the best in the league. His high IQ, rebounding ability and long arms on defense put him above many BE players, let alone a senior in high school.[/quote]

I agree here. LJ is excellent but needs a cast around him and he gets better. With a Pg, other scorers and maybe a big guy, he’d be fantastic. I don’t think there’s a shot at it but I’d love him to stay. Imagine posh at pg, Dunn moves to his sg role. At times we’d be able to play with several scoring wings like Figueroa, Cole and evening a stretch 4 in Moore that can score? Let’s not undersell LJ Figueroa just because he might not be an NBA talent. The kid is excellent and we’d all LOVE for him to be on this team alongside a few more scorers. He’s tough as nails and can do a lot of things.[/quote]

Then he'd be dumb to leave. We'd have that pg (posh), scorer/shooter (cole), big (gray)? If they help him become a better player then he'd open up scouts eyes.[/quote]

I don’t know if it’s dumb if he’s planning on making money overseas. He might just see it as losing and earning year. I don’t begrudge guys for going overseas if they can get paid for it. I think he’s have a good season if he came back with the cast around him though, and it’s just one year. He might be able to get more of a premium after next season if he is able to mature and not having to rush his progression.
 
[quote="MCNPA" post=372809][quote="CMA TIME" post=372796][quote="MCNPA" post=372794][quote="SJU14" post=372786][quote="CMA TIME" post=372767]Heron / Cole -.both go to.the hoop. Cole is a very good shooter whereas Heron isn't,.so they'll have to play up on Coles, he could fake drive.and hit a
step back three. HERON.cannot do that.
LJ / Wusu - I'm thinking wusu could atleast equal LJ. LJ just isn't that good.
He'll put up.pnts on 5 of 17 shooting and 1/8 from 3. Wusu has a BE body so he'll hold his own on the boards.
Posh, McGriff / Dunn - Dunn isn't a PG, that right there is all that is needed to be said.
Moore should be able to help in the front court alot next year

Then all the guys will have experience from playing this year.

Opinions?[/quote]

Recency bias is playing a big part in this opinion. No, he hasn't had a good shooting year on 3's and his typical floaters, but the all around game of LJ is one of the best in the league. His high IQ, rebounding ability and long arms on defense put him above many BE players, let alone a senior in high school.[/quote]

There is a 100% chance that figgy is on this team next year. Guys like powell and howard stuck around. They are 10xs the player figgy is. Hes not good enough to leave after 3 years.

I agree here. LJ is excellent but needs a cast around him and he gets better. With a Pg, other scorers and maybe a big guy, he’d be fantastic. I don’t think there’s a shot at it but I’d love him to stay. Imagine posh at pg, Dunn moves to his sg role. At times we’d be able to play with several scoring wings like Figueroa, Cole and evening a stretch 4 in Moore that can score? Let’s not undersell LJ Figueroa just because he might not be an NBA talent. The kid is excellent and we’d all LOVE for him to be on this team alongside a few more scorers. He’s tough as nails and can do a lot of things.[/quote]

Then he'd be dumb to leave. We'd have that pg (posh), scorer/shooter (cole), big (gray)? If they help him become a better player then he'd open up scouts eyes.[/quote]

I don’t know if it’s dumb if he’s planning on making money overseas. He might just see it as losing and earning year. I don’t begrudge guys for going overseas if they can get paid for it. I think he’s have a good season if he came back with the cast around him though, and it’s just one year. He might be able to get more of a premium after next season if he is able to mature and not having to rush his progression.[/quote]
 
Wusu has turned out to be quite the find, but he's probably the 11th man if Figgy comes back.
 
Can't state this enough...it was a bit tough to find but I saw Posh's stats. He shoots like 25% from 3. He's NOT a shooter. He's a slasher like Dunn. And he's a good dunker FWIW. Decent FT shooter. I expect some Dunn type production from him hopefully. A concern is that he's about 5'8 or 5'9 regardless of if he's listed at 5'11 or 6'0. They always throw a few inches in. Dunn gets lots of shots blocked because of his height and we may see the same here.

Wusu I believe shoots in the low 30% range from 3. So probably a better bet to get better maybe up to 35% or so but I still don't see him ever being a true shooter. Expecting him to be LJ or better is probably asking too much.

Bottom line, we are putting all our eggs in the Cole basket and if he doesn't come out immediately draining 3's with regularity, we will be in even bigger trouble than this year. It's a real possibility that Cole is the only real 3 PT threat on the entire team next year. And that's making a big assumption that he goes from JUCO to Big East seamlessly. We don't have any Jordan Tucker's or Mussini's coming in with him. May be a similar season next year with a worse OOC record unfortunately. The year after next, CMA needs to have legitimate talent here with several shooters and bigs or we may be in for another 4-5 year tenure.
 
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[quote="Mike Zaun" post=372841]Can't state this enough...it was a bit tough to find but I saw Posh's stats. He shoots like 25% from 3. He's NOT a shooter. He's a slasher like Dunn. And he's a good dunker FWIW. Decent FT shooter. I expect some Dunn type production from him hopefully. A concern is that he's about 5'8 or 5'9 regardless of if he's listed at 5'11 or 6'0. They always throw a few inches in. Dunn gets lots of shots blocked because of his height and we may see the same here.

Wusu I believe shoots in the low 30% range from 3. So probably a better bet to get better maybe up to 35% or so but I still don't see him ever being a true shooter. Expecting him to be LJ or better is probably asking too much.

Bottom line, we are putting all our eggs in the Cole basket and if he doesn't come out immediately draining 3's with regularity, we will be in even bigger trouble than this year. It's a real possibility that Cole is the only real 3 PT threat on the entire team next year. And that's making a big assumption that he goes from JUCO to Big East seamlessly.[/quote]

Agree on need for adding a shooter. Re Wusu, senseless to count too much on a freshman year one, but fans tend to do that. He’ll be a nice four year piece. It is quite fair to say that Johnnies,since advent of three point shot in college, have not killed it. Teams more successful in that area usually have an inside out game. Sadly, SJ has also been deficient with skilled scoring and passing bigs.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=372843][quote="Mike Zaun" post=372841]Can't state this enough...it was a bit tough to find but I saw Posh's stats. He shoots like 25% from 3. He's NOT a shooter. He's a slasher like Dunn. And he's a good dunker FWIW. Decent FT shooter. I expect some Dunn type production from him hopefully. A concern is that he's about 5'8 or 5'9 regardless of if he's listed at 5'11 or 6'0. They always throw a few inches in. Dunn gets lots of shots blocked because of his height and we may see the same here.

Wusu I believe shoots in the low 30% range from 3. So probably a better bet to get better maybe up to 35% or so but I still don't see him ever being a true shooter. Expecting him to be LJ or better is probably asking too much.

Bottom line, we are putting all our eggs in the Cole basket and if he doesn't come out immediately draining 3's with regularity, we will be in even bigger trouble than this year. It's a real possibility that Cole is the only real 3 PT threat on the entire team next year. And that's making a big assumption that he goes from JUCO to Big East seamlessly.[/quote]

Agree on need for adding a shooter. Re Wusu, senseless to count too much on a freshman year one, but fans tend to do that. He’ll be a nice four year piece. It is quite fair to say that Johnnies,since advent of three point shot in college, have not killed it. Teams more successful in that area usually have an inside out game. Sadly, SJ has also been deficient with skilled scoring and passing bigs.[/quote]

I expect a few more additional scholarships will open up this year. There will be an opportunity to recruit two additional pieces. I think it’s critical that we finish the year strong. Let’s overachieve, make the NIT and provide a sense of optimism around the program that will attract recruits.

Regardless of our recent struggles, I very much like what I’ve seen from CMA. For the most part, we’ve played well without much talent and our two best players playing below expectations. I credit CMA for that.

I’m not suggesting he’s the best coach ever, but his record speaks for itself. He’s clearly a very good coach. Recruiting is the X factor. I love this school with all my being, but at the moment it’s not the most attractive destination for kids. Hopefully CMA can change that perception.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=372841]Can't state this enough...it was a bit tough to find but I saw Posh's stats. He shoots like 25% from 3. He's NOT a shooter. He's a slasher like Dunn. And he's a good dunker FWIW. Decent FT shooter. I expect some Dunn type production from him hopefully. A concern is that he's about 5'8 or 5'9 regardless of if he's listed at 5'11 or 6'0. They always throw a few inches in. Dunn gets lots of shots blocked because of his height and we may see the same here.

Wusu I believe shoots in the low 30% range from 3. So probably a better bet to get better maybe up to 35% or so but I still don't see him ever being a true shooter. Expecting him to be LJ or better is probably asking too much.

Bottom line, we are putting all our eggs in the Cole basket and if he doesn't come out immediately draining 3's with regularity, we will be in even bigger trouble than this year. It's a real possibility that Cole is the only real 3 PT threat on the entire team next year. And that's making a big assumption that he goes from JUCO to Big East seamlessly. We don't have any Jordan Tucker's or Mussini's coming in with him. May be a similar season next year with a worse OOC record unfortunately. The year after next, CMA needs to have legitimate talent here with several shooters and bigs or we may be in for another 4-5 year tenure.[/quote]

Mike, Spud Webb was 5`7, Muggsy was 5`3 both were nasty.

I agree that we need another shooter to go with Cole, and a big, maybe gray?
Or a grad transfer big that can give us 6-8 boards and 1-2 blcks per game, if he could score alittle that would be butter.
 
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