The Big East Awards

NYCRedmen

NYCRedmen

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I was wondering if there has ever been a school that has won all 4 of the Big East's major awards (coach, player, defensive & rookie of the year)? While it is still early, it goes without saying that right now we have a shot of at least 2 of those (Obepka & Sampson are clearly in the conversation for defensive player & rookie of the year). Harrison can make a run at player of the year if he keeps the 20 PPG clip and the team keeps winning. Lavin would probably be in the mix also if we can finish in the top 5, bit of a long shot but anything can happen. I am pretty sure no school has ever had all 4, anyone have contrary info?
 
I'm pretty sure there's less than 0% chance of this happening.
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Less than zero percent of Sampson & Obekpa winning or all 4? I agree with all 4 but I think Jakarr & CO have a legit shot.
 
on a related note, O has already solidified himself as the greatest shot blocker in the history of the Big East and will always hold that. Seeing him completely eliminate the likes of Ewing, Okafor, Mourning, Mutombo... only half way into his first season - is in short, awesome.
 
on a related note, O has already solidified himself as the greatest shot blocker in the history of the Big East and will always hold that. Seeing him completely eliminate the likes of Ewing, Okafor, Mourning, Mutombo... only half way into his first season - is in short, awesome.
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I thought Chris got the freshman record, not the all-time season record.
 
on a related note, O has already solidified himself as the greatest shot blocker in the history of the Big East and will always hold that. Seeing him completely eliminate the likes of Ewing, Okafor, Mourning, Mutombo... only half way into his first season - is in short, awesome.
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Best Freshman shot blocker, no?

His junior year Thabeet blocked 151 shots, Mutombo's senior year 152. Obekpa has 85 right?

I saw that graphic during the game too, I think CO needs to get like 115 to break the freshmen Big East record, which it looks like he'll do.
But he's a ways away from being the best shot blocker in the history of the Big East.
 
on a related note, O has already solidified himself as the greatest shot blocker in the history of the Big East and will always hold that. Seeing him completely eliminate the likes of Ewing, Okafor, Mourning, Mutombo... only half way into his first season - is in short, awesome.
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Best Freshman shot blocker, no?

His junior year Thabeet blocked 151 shots, Mutombo's senior year 152. Obekpa has 85 right?

I saw that graphic during the game too, I think CO needs to get like 115 to break the freshmen Big East record, which it looks like he'll do.
But he's a ways away from being the best shot blocker in the history of the Big East.
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As a frosh Alonzo blocked 169 shots, but the BE record is the 71 he blocked in conference play (his frosh year was his most prolific). In BE play Co has only blocked 23. Seems there's a lot of apples to oranges comparisons being made to elevate CO's accomplishments,. not that they're not special just not really record breaking yet on anything but a team level.
 
So what graphic did they show the other night then? It showed him as the best of something.
 
According to BasketballReference Mourning had 169 blocks as a freshmen, from what I can tell that's both the freshmen BE record and the regular Big East single season record.

No player I could think of had more in a single season. (Ewing, Mouning, Moutombo, Okafor, Thabeet, etc)

if that's the case... It does not appear CO is on pace to break it. He would need like 7 a game. But he should pass Ewing and Okafor who had 119 as freshmen, and may catch Thabeet who had 138 as a frosh.


Either way, I don't think Chris wins defensive player of the year. I said this on JJ, but Chris has to learn to guard people first. If he's the best defensive player in the conference then why was Garrett fronting Cooley our best option against ND? or why was Lubick from Georgetown able to score on CO almost at will?

I don't want to take anything away from CO, his shot blocking is tremendous. At that is a really meaningful stat - because that's 5 extra possessions for our team almost every game. Plus all the shots he alters without getting a piece of it. That's a big impact.
But if you're the best defensive player in the conference, you have to be able to..ya know, play defense. And Chris really struggles to guard people right now.
 
So what graphic did they show the other night then? It showed him as the best of something.
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Maybe per game? I don't know.
Maybe they showed his projected total if he stays on this pace?? Cause if he stays on this pace he should pass all freshmen except Mourning.
 
So what graphic did they show the other night then? It showed him as the best of something.
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Maybe per game? I don't know.
Maybe they showed his projected total if he stays on this pace?? Cause if he stays on this pace he should pass all freshmen except Mourning.
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It wasn't per game. It was whole numbers. I don't remember. Maybe someone does or has it DVRed
 
Lets not forget he recorded 0 blocks last game, reason might be that coaching staff wants him to focus on more rebounding and less blocking which makes him vulnerable to fouling out, and with lack of depth in the big man department this is a huge issue in big east play.

This can also be due to dwindling minutes as he now comes off the bench with 20-25min a game
 
So what graphic did they show the other night then? It showed him as the best of something.
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Maybe per game? I don't know.
Maybe they showed his projected total if he stays on this pace?? Cause if he stays on this pace he should pass all freshmen except Mourning.
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It wasn't per game. It was whole numbers. I don't remember. Maybe someone does or has it DVRed
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http://espn.go.com/watchespn/player/_/id/745458/
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Haha

I might be bored at work but I can't go thru the whole game. Tried in spots but no go. Thought it was towards the end of the game when Pointer blocked a shot out of bounds.
 
At the 11:01 mark of 2nd half (otherwise 1 hour 34 minutes into broadcast) it says BIG EAST FRESHMAN ALL TIME SINGLE SEASON LEADER.

Then at 1 hour and 35 minutes into the broadcast it shows the visual everyone was referencing.

Big East Freshman Blocks Leaders

Obekpa 87
Mourning 71 (88-89)
Okafor 70 (00-01)
Thabeet 60 (06-07)
Ewing 53 (81-82)
 
on a related note, O has already solidified himself as the greatest shot blocker in the history of the Big East and will always hold that. Seeing him completely eliminate the likes of Ewing, Okafor, Mourning, Mutombo... only half way into his first season - is in short, awesome.
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Thanks - I just hope he plays enough minutes the balance of this year - they have been cut back a bit lately - we are fortunate to have him - it has been old having UConn etc. having shot blockers and we with none.

all the best
 
At the 11:01 mark of 2nd half (otherwise 1 hour 34 minutes into broadcast) it says BIG EAST FRESHMAN ALL TIME SINGLE SEASON LEADER.

Then at 1 hour and 35 minutes into the broadcast it shows the visual everyone was referencing.

Big East Freshman Blocks Leaders

Obekpa 87
Mourning 71 (88-89)
Okafor 70 (00-01)
Thabeet 60 (06-07)
Ewing 53 (81-82)
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Yeah, that's kind of how I remembered it. Completely incorrect per the stats I and others raised about Mourning's freshman year and total blocks vs. blocks in conference games. Wonder who's feeding them this crap. Hope it's not the STJ SID.
 
At the 11:01 mark of 2nd half (otherwise 1 hour 34 minutes into broadcast) it says BIG EAST FRESHMAN ALL TIME SINGLE SEASON LEADER.

Then at 1 hour and 35 minutes into the broadcast it shows the visual everyone was referencing.

Big East Freshman Blocks Leaders

Obekpa 87
Mourning 71 (88-89)
Okafor 70 (00-01)
Thabeet 60 (06-07)
Ewing 53 (81-82)
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Yeah, that's kind of how I remembered it. Completely incorrect per the stats I and others raised about Mourning's freshman year and total blocks vs. blocks in conference games. Wonder who's feeding them this crap. Hope it's not the STJ SID.
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Well we are the youngest team in America...................................

oh wait :)
 
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