St. John's Pharma Grads / Class of 2009
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PharmDJohnnie11
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Very nice. I graduated from the Doctor of Pharmacy program with his brother in 2011.
Very nice. I graduated from the Doctor of Pharmacy program with his brother in 2011.
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beast of the east
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Nice story. Thanks for sharing.
The 6 year PharmD program has been the entry level degree in pharmacy for quite some time. In terms of advocacy, PharmD's (most pharmacists refrain from using the title Dr.) are not compensated for the extra year of education or title conferred by the degree. Five year BS Pharmacists are in the tail end of careers, and many have advanced degrees (MS and post graduate PharmDs).
There is a movement afoot in some states to expand pharmacy school to 7 years. Hospitals often require one or two year ASHP residencies (PGY1 or PGY2 as a requirement for employment. State licensure is essential, so a pharmacy degree without licensure is nearly worthless.
Some states or schools require a bachelor's degree to apply to pharmacy school, and then have 4 years of professional study.
All in all highly trained medical professionals whose medication related education dwarfs that of prescribers.
Many pharmacists feel that a 6 year degree is excessive to work in retail pharmacy. In fact, most of the curriculum is never used post graduation even in clinical roles at hospitals.
At a professional meeting last December I encountered a group of SJU pharmacy students. They are all brilliant to a person, and Bob Mangione had invited me to campus for a tour of the pharmacy school when he was Dean. Back then (at least 7 or 8 years ago) the average SAT score of entering freshman was something like 1430, which would get the average pharmacy student into many if most most top 40 universities.
A disturbing thing that students shared with me and I hope I have this correct. St. John's policy is that any grade below a C mandates the course be repeated. Three grades below a C over the course of the student's 6 years means expulsion from the program.
I did a recent search of pharmacy salaries nationwide. The reported salary range is about 90-130K, and the nationwide average is $113K. That's not a lot considering the amount and cost of education.
In any event nice to see pharmacists get a little press
The 6 year PharmD program has been the entry level degree in pharmacy for quite some time. In terms of advocacy, PharmD's (most pharmacists refrain from using the title Dr.) are not compensated for the extra year of education or title conferred by the degree. Five year BS Pharmacists are in the tail end of careers, and many have advanced degrees (MS and post graduate PharmDs).
There is a movement afoot in some states to expand pharmacy school to 7 years. Hospitals often require one or two year ASHP residencies (PGY1 or PGY2 as a requirement for employment. State licensure is essential, so a pharmacy degree without licensure is nearly worthless.
Some states or schools require a bachelor's degree to apply to pharmacy school, and then have 4 years of professional study.
All in all highly trained medical professionals whose medication related education dwarfs that of prescribers.
Many pharmacists feel that a 6 year degree is excessive to work in retail pharmacy. In fact, most of the curriculum is never used post graduation even in clinical roles at hospitals.
At a professional meeting last December I encountered a group of SJU pharmacy students. They are all brilliant to a person, and Bob Mangione had invited me to campus for a tour of the pharmacy school when he was Dean. Back then (at least 7 or 8 years ago) the average SAT score of entering freshman was something like 1430, which would get the average pharmacy student into many if most most top 40 universities.
A disturbing thing that students shared with me and I hope I have this correct. St. John's policy is that any grade below a C mandates the course be repeated. Three grades below a C over the course of the student's 6 years means expulsion from the program.
I did a recent search of pharmacy salaries nationwide. The reported salary range is about 90-130K, and the nationwide average is $113K. That's not a lot considering the amount and cost of education.
In any event nice to see pharmacists get a little press
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