[quote="Marillac" post=309484][quote="Class of 72" post=309467][quote="Marillac" post=309442][quote="Class of 72" post=309438]I'm hoping for a 2-2 split but if Keita is a non factor I can see us starting 0-4. Especially after watching Sacred Heart beat us on the boards on both ends of the court. In conference play size will matter and it is wonderful to have a good shooting forward like Clark taking treys but that usually means our guys are already running away from the basket when he shoots. Every Big East team here out will have the 6'8 and 6'10 kids to give us problems. Last night they were Sacred Heart kids. Now they will be nationally ranked Big East kids. Let's see if small ball works in conference. Without defense and rebounding my guess is that it won't be enough.[/quote]
WTF?
Our center is 6'7-6'8 230 lbs and is one of the best set shooters in the country. The guys we have playing PF an C can all start a break, score 25 points any given night, and hit free throws. He can space the floor better than any big man in the country.
Look at what a typical big man does in a game...usually 50% or so from the line which means 4-6 misses from the stripe, tires and gets beat back a few times in transition, gets beaten on the perimeter a handful of times by guards and wings, clogs the lane, doesn't stretch the D, etc. Let them get 5-6 layups if we can get 8-10 baskets on the other end from the other stuff.[/quote]
WTF Center that is 6'8 are you referring to because I must have missed that player all season thus far. We don't play a "center" position on this team. Marvin Clark is an outstanding shooting SF. There is no "power" in his game and he is not relentless under the boards. The other players are in the 6'1 to 6'6 range and can all score as you stated. The problem will be when Marvin is off or in foul trouble we are in deep WTF shit. That's why the Keita issue looms over this team and this season just as Marcus LoVett loomed and doomed our season last year.
Bottom line is that one player, especially not your best player, should be such a factor on any team.[/quote]
Marvin Clark is as much of a SF as you.
Maybe you missed the Final Four when he was a freshman and played a ton of minutes for Izzo at center? He played 18 minutes in an OT Elite Eight win against Louisville -- nearly all at center. He played 10 minutes against Duke in the Final Four. All told, he played 59 minutes at the four and five in five NCAA tournament games for a Final Four team. He also had 68 minutes in six Big Ten conference tournament games at the four and five.That many not be good enough for 72, but it's good enough for me.
Kevin Pittsnoogle was a 6'10 250 center that hit over 40% on 8-9 threes a game, but nobody every called him a SF. For some reason Clark gets that label here. Puzzling.[/quote]
Jesus, Mary and Joseph but your lack of perspicacity on the Marvin Clark issue is hilarious.:cheer:
First off what the heck goes Marvin's time at Michigan State have to do with his current status at St. John's?
Secondly, he was a sub in those games and in the Duke and Louisville games he grabbed a total of TWO REBOUNDS. One in each game.
Finally do yourself a favor and chart the shots he has taken. 69 of 102 of his shot attempts are from beyond the arc. He shoots 68% of his shots from the 3 point line. He is 4th on the team in rebounding. If that screams out power forward to you, God bless you. By definition a power forward is a " large forward who plays in the low post and typically has good rebounding skills." I love Marvin but while at Michigan state he was listed at 6'6 and grew an inch at St. John's. If that floats your boat for advocating him as a 4 or more hysterically as a five, so be it.
