Scoreboard Watching

[postell25]

While it's unlikely that St. John's will get an at-large bid, it's not dead in the water yet. The only fun part about being on the bubble is that there are a lot of important games every night in March.

So for tonight:

-Michigan at Illinois
It's probably too late for Illinois but beating Michigan and Iowa might put them in the discussion pending their B10 tourney performance. Hopefully that gets nipped in the bud.

-Creighton at Georgetown
Georgetown's profile is a little better than ours anyway. Need them to lose out so we can leapfrog them in the committee's eyes

-Iowa State at Baylor
Baylor is probably already in anyway with their 6 quality wins but if they lose out the regular season, maybe a 7-11Big 12 record wouldn't look too attractive

-Florida State at BC
Florida State is hanging on by a thread. Losing at BC tonight would help but if FSU loses tonight and beats Syracuse to close out the ACC season then their profile looks better than ours

-Arizona State at Oregon
I think both of these teams are probably in anyway. But Oregon can destroy their profile by losing their last two games and bowing out in their first PAC12 game. So I'll root for that.

March is awesome.

 

[Eddyman11]

"The enemy of your enemy is your friend " with that said let's go blue jays. I hope Doug McBuckets aka Dougie Fresh aka Run DmD lights them up tonight.

 

[Marillac]

"The enemy of your enemy is your friend "

Who are Fordham96's other enemies? I kid, I kid....

 

[simplyred]

I honestly don't understand how Georgetown can still be in the discussion for an at large at this point. They have some good wins but their overall record is horrendous. The committee would have to bypass three other teams that are ahead of them in the Big East---all of whom have at least split with the Hoyas. IMO, they don't/shouldn't have a shot unless they win the BET.

 

[Andrew]

I honestly don't understand how Georgetown can still be in the discussion for an at large at this point. They have some good wins but their overall record is horrendous. The committee would have to bypass three other teams that are ahead of them in the Big East---all of whom have at least split with the Hoyas. IMO, they don't/shouldn't have a shot unless they win the BET.

I think the committee is still scared of Michael Graham. Interesting article on him below.
http://deadspin.com/former-georgetown-basketball-tough-guy-wins-1-million-470662985

 

[MJDinkins]

I honestly don't understand how Georgetown can still be in the discussion for an at large at this point. They have some good wins but their overall record is horrendous. The committee would have to bypass three other teams that are ahead of them in the Big East---all of whom have at least split with the Hoyas. IMO, they don't/shouldn't have a shot unless they win the BET.

If they were to win their last two games (vs. Creighton and @ Villanova), then they could very, well find themselves being discussed for an at-large bid. Especially, if they were to win one game in the Big East Tournament (on top of beating the teams mentioned above).

Frankly, I think they lose both games. I think their game tonight will be a tight one, but I feel Creighton will find a way to win at the end.

 

[MJDinkins]

I honestly don't understand how Georgetown can still be in the discussion for an at large at this point. They have some good wins but their overall record is horrendous. The committee would have to bypass three other teams that are ahead of them in the Big East---all of whom have at least split with the Hoyas. IMO, they don't/shouldn't have a shot unless they win the BET.

I think the committee is still scared of Michael Graham. Interesting article on him below.
http://deadspin.com/former-georgetown-basketball-tough-guy-wins-1-million-470662985

I saw Graham several years ago, when G'town (Jeff Green and Roy Hibbert were freshmen) played the Gamecocks during the 2005 NIT Tournament. I was told by someone that he was living in the area at that particular time.

 

[postell25]

I honestly don't understand how Georgetown can still be in the discussion for an at large at this point. They have some good wins but their overall record is horrendous. The committee would have to bypass three other teams that are ahead of them in the Big East---all of whom have at least split with the Hoyas. IMO, they don't/shouldn't have a shot unless they win the BET.

Well I think we can potentially get an at-large with an appearance in the BET final and I think Georgetown's profile is significantly better than ours.

 

[simplyred]

I honestly don't understand how Georgetown can still be in the discussion for an at large at this point. They have some good wins but their overall record is horrendous. The committee would have to bypass three other teams that are ahead of them in the Big East---all of whom have at least split with the Hoyas. IMO, they don't/shouldn't have a shot unless they win the BET.

Well I think we can potentially get an at-large with an appearance in the BET final and I think Georgetown's profile is significantly better than ours.

They have better wins, granted. But their overall record is 17-12. Let's say they beat [strike]Creighton[/strike]Nova---another quality win---and get to 18-12. Then they lose their first game in the BET. Do they get a bid at 18-13? What if they get to 19-13. Do they get an at large with fewer than 20 wins? I'd love to know when was the last time a team got in with that record. I'm sure it has happened but I can't imagine it has happened too often.

 

[salty dog]

G town can beat Nova and that will really help but at the same time it shows how really tough and even the Big East is.
Their are hardly any patsies. This is why the league should get four teams in minimum.
One year Louisville coached by Denny Crum got in with I believe an 18 and 12 record but played an impossible schedule.

 

[postell25]

I honestly don't understand how Georgetown can still be in the discussion for an at large at this point. They have some good wins but their overall record is horrendous. The committee would have to bypass three other teams that are ahead of them in the Big East---all of whom have at least split with the Hoyas. IMO, they don't/shouldn't have a shot unless they win the BET.

Well I think we can potentially get an at-large with an appearance in the BET final and I think Georgetown's profile is significantly better than ours.

They have better wins, granted. But their overall record is 17-12. Let's say they beat [strike]Creighton[/strike]Nova---another quality win---and get to 18-12. Then they lose their first game in the BET. Do they get a bid at 18-13? What if they get to 19-13. Do they get an at large with fewer than 20 wins? I'd love to know when was the last time a team got in with that record. I'm sure it has happened but I can't imagine it has happened too often.

Of course. People put WAY too much stock in overall wins. It's more who you beat. 20 wins isn't some magical threshold that gets a major conference school in the tournament automatically. Even just 2011, Michigan State got an at-large with something like and 18-14 or 19-14 record. And that same year Marquette, Tennessee, Penn State and USC all got at larges with 14 losses. Arizona did it in 2008 too.

 

[L J S A]

I honestly don't understand how Georgetown can still be in the discussion for an at large at this point. They have some good wins but their overall record is horrendous. The committee would have to bypass three other teams that are ahead of them in the Big East---all of whom have at least split with the Hoyas. IMO, they don't/shouldn't have a shot unless they win the BET.

Well I think we can potentially get an at-large with an appearance in the BET final and I think Georgetown's profile is significantly better than ours.

They have better wins, granted. But their overall record is 17-12. Let's say they beat [strike]Creighton[/strike]Nova---another quality win---and get to 18-12. Then they lose their first game in the BET. Do they get a bid at 18-13? What if they get to 19-13. Do they get an at large with fewer than 20 wins? I'd love to know when was the last time a team got in with that record. I'm sure it has happened but I can't imagine it has happened too often.

Not quite the same thing you were wondering, but this list does include some not so stellar records while discussing another topic:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/ncaa-tournament/history/atlarge

 

[kranmars]

Personally, scoreboard watching and rooting for some random team to lose over another seems like futile excersize in attempting to reach nirvana.

You may want to switch to porn instead for that.

 

[postell25]

Personally, scoreboard watching and rooting for some random team to lose over another seems like futile excersize in attempting to reach nirvana.

You may want to switch to porn instead for that.

Or it's enjoying watching meaningful basketball games. Porn is for halftime

 

[austour]

Personally, scoreboard watching and rooting for some random team to lose over another seems like futile excersize in attempting to reach nirvana.

You may want to switch to porn instead for that.

Never heard of multitasking Alfredo?

 

[kranmars]

Personally, scoreboard watching and rooting for some random team to lose over another seems like futile excersize in attempting to reach nirvana.

You may want to switch to porn instead for that.

Never heard of multitasking Alfredo?

Of course, but I am very project oriented.