RIP John Chaney
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So sorry to hear this. RIP Coach Chaney.
Tough week with the passing of Cloris Leachman, Cicely Tyson and now Coach. :-(
Tough week with the passing of Cloris Leachman, Cicely Tyson and now Coach. :-(
God I remember the time when Temple-UMass was a bigger game than anything the Big East had on that week.
John Chaney, Aaron McKie, Eddie Jones vs. John Calipari, Marcus Camby, Lou Roe.
And this is still one of my favorite moments in college bball:
[URL][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v[/URL]=r6jUpHClybQ[/url]
John Chaney, Aaron McKie, Eddie Jones vs. John Calipari, Marcus Camby, Lou Roe.
And this is still one of my favorite moments in college bball:
[URL][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v[/URL]=r6jUpHClybQ[/url]
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An absolutely great coach, great person, a true trail blazer who really cared about his kids.
I loved watching his team play and him coach.
He was absolutely drenched by half time.
If I recall he had to wait a very long time to finally get a Div 1 head coaching job, though he deserved it much earlier in his career.
He was just an outstanding all around human being.
May he rest in peace, one of the original real good guys.
I loved watching his team play and him coach.
He was absolutely drenched by half time.
If I recall he had to wait a very long time to finally get a Div 1 head coaching job, though he deserved it much earlier in his career.
He was just an outstanding all around human being.
May he rest in peace, one of the original real good guys.
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He coached almost to age 75!!
Fiery guy:"Chaney was an imposing presence on the court — restless, cranky, his otherwise natty clothes in shambles by the end of the game. Often, as he exhorted his team, he put himself in situations he later regretted. He was known for a fiery temper -- sending a player into a 2005 game to commit hard fouls. Chaney served a suspension and apologized.In 1994, he had a heated exchange following a game against UMass in which he threatened to kill coach John Calipari. Chaney apologized and was suspended for a game. The two later became friends.In 1984, Chaney grabbed George Washington coach Gerry Gimelstob by the shoulders at halftime during a game."
Threatening to kill Calipari is reason enough to like him.
Brilliant career. Good man. Old school coach whose teams scrapped for everything they got. RIP.
Fiery guy:"Chaney was an imposing presence on the court — restless, cranky, his otherwise natty clothes in shambles by the end of the game. Often, as he exhorted his team, he put himself in situations he later regretted. He was known for a fiery temper -- sending a player into a 2005 game to commit hard fouls. Chaney served a suspension and apologized.In 1994, he had a heated exchange following a game against UMass in which he threatened to kill coach John Calipari. Chaney apologized and was suspended for a game. The two later became friends.In 1984, Chaney grabbed George Washington coach Gerry Gimelstob by the shoulders at halftime during a game."
Threatening to kill Calipari is reason enough to like him.
Brilliant career. Good man. Old school coach whose teams scrapped for everything they got. RIP.
I just spent 41 minutes watching Coach Chaney's induction speech, it was fantastic. Never talked about himself, just thanked everyone who was a positive influence in his life, his mentors, players, family and how we have to help the youth.
and of course I loved his shout out to Coach Lou who was not able to attend.
An unbelievably class individual.
As previously said the world needs many more people like him.
and of course I loved his shout out to Coach Lou who was not able to attend.
An unbelievably class individual.
As previously said the world needs many more people like him.
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John Chaney was a great Bssketball Coach . Temple achieved high success in the NCAA Tournament for several years . Temple hasn't been the same since he Retired . Much like another Program called ours , since Lou . Watching a Temple game was a treat , not only because they were good but , you knew Chaney would be a Mess Clothing wise by game's end . The tie askew, shirt sleeves rolled up to the elbows . Chaney looked like he had just played the game himself when it ended . Fiery ? John Chaney invented the word fiery . No one was spared , the Officials , the opponents , his own Players . Yes , he was one of those Coaches that didn't exempt his own players from a chewing out . But , was revered by those same players . Although they all groaned that Chaney would hold his Practices at 5 am or some early hour . But , they knew that before the went to Temple . It was. A treat to see Chaney and Temple play Villanova and Rollie Massimino back in the day of the Big 5 . Massimino would be as much a mess as Chaney at games end but , kept his jacket on . It didn't improve the look . I often wondered why Temple wasn't ever invited to join the BE rather than Miami or Va Tech, WVirginia ? I believe Aaron McKie , one of Chaney's players is now their Coach .
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Nova was in the toughest conference and in the Big 5, games would be raucous and any team could beat you on any given night. Wright thought it was too tough an OOC challenge that could hurt more than it could help
If I remember correctly he held practices at 4/5 am. Availability of space, longer court time and mental toughness were a some of his reasons for doing so. I have years of EASTERN BASKETBALL from the heyday among other publications that I am going to offer for gratis. Will post in the appropriate area after I go through my bins.
he held practice at 5 am for 2 reasons.Zeeman" post=415421 said:
number 1 kids had to go to bed early, they could not be out. Number 2 and more importantly to Coach Chaney after practice kids showered , ate and went directly to class, there was no reason to skip class as there was nothing else to do at that time. The man understood young adults and implemented what was necessary to help them succeed in life.
much respect for the late , great Coach Chaney.
John Chaney an African American version of Bobby Knight, except minus the worst parts of Knight. Tough, relentless defense was the hallmark of his Temple teams. Chaney like KNight, backed down from no one no where no how. Knight had great respect for SJU and Lapchick and Looie, and so did John Chaney, whose record at Temple reads very much like Looie's at St. John's %-wise, # of NCAAs, etc.
Rest in Peace, Mr. Chaney, and I am certain there are alot of former Chaney players whose lives got turned around by his mentoring off the court as much as on the court. He truly cared about his players and what they would make of themselves, life after BB.
The episode with Calipari was very unfortunate but apparently, they moved on and got along afterwards. I am alone in my view here maybe, but there is another side to Calipari that people either do not see or ignore.
Rest in Peace, Mr. Chaney, and I am certain there are alot of former Chaney players whose lives got turned around by his mentoring off the court as much as on the court. He truly cared about his players and what they would make of themselves, life after BB.
The episode with Calipari was very unfortunate but apparently, they moved on and got along afterwards. I am alone in my view here maybe, but there is another side to Calipari that people either do not see or ignore.
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[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/1991/03/27/sports/sports-of-the-times-john-chaney-teaches-a-lesson.html?auth[/URL]=login-google1tap&login=google1tap]SPORTS OF THE TIMES; John Chaney Teaches A Lesson - The New York Times (nytimes.com)[/url]SECTIONS
SPORTS OF THE TIMESSPORTS OF THE TIMES; John Chaney Teaches A LessonBy [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/by/george-vecsey[/URL]]George Vecsey[/url] 1991
"You see them out there, slapping hands, doing all kinds of gyrations," Chaney said. "I don't like it. Never have."Chaney's lesson should have been noticed by every defensive end in football who performs a sack dance over a fallen quarterback, every baseball slugger who takes a curtain call for a home run, every basketball player who runs around with his hands imitating the landing flaps of an airplane.Actually you may not see that much posturing during the Final Four that begins Saturday in Indianapolis.Dean Smith of North Carolina and Mike Krzyzewski of Duke do not tolerate much woofing and tweeting, and Roy Williams of Kansas is a Smith protege
Jerry Tarkanian's defending champions from the University of Nevada-Las Vegas have been through it all before, so maybe we can expect their anticipated repeat to be "professional," if that were not a dirty word in the old scholar-athlete business.THE MORNING: Make sense of the day’s news and ideas. David Leonhardt and Times journalists guide you through what’s happening — and why it matters.
Sign UpThere are enough problems in college sports without the woofing. A current study in The Chronicle of Higher Education has confirmed that big-time basketball and football players do not graduate at the same rate as "regular" students.On the other hand, the five-year graduation rate for all athletes is 56.1 percent, compared to 47.5 percent for all students, which says something about the intelligence and motivation of fencers, soccer players, swimmers, male and female.The lower rate for big-time basketball and football players confirms that the system is stacked against them. They are recruited for reasons having little to do with academics, and then they are pressured into working full time at a nonpaying job, which leaves little time for studying.But there are lessons, and there are lessons. Chaney, who has made a bit of a jerk of himself in the past with his comments about officials, does his best to portray himself as a hoops version of the earthy, irascible George Jefferson of television fame.His vision and his motives have more than a trace of the subtle, idealistic Cliff Huxtable."If you can't modify behavior when you're coaching, when can you?" Chaney sputtered."I see guys spiking the football when they're ahead by 30 points. What's the sense? I don't want to see Carolina putting salt in my wounds and I'm sure they don't want to see us do it, either."
Chaney said he was mad at Victor Carstarphen for "growling at Houston," burly 6-foot-7-inch, 235-pound Byron Houston of Oklahoma State."I asked Vic, 'Do you see his arms? Why you want to talk to him?' So then Victor goes around patting him on the back."I told him, save it for after the game. Then go tell him you played a good game. Then go to your room."Then, Victor comes over and starts explaining it to me like he's a politician. 'Well, umm, you see, this is what I meant. . . .' ""Also, Mik Kilgore is talking to everybody like he's an usher. 'You want a seat over here? You want popcorn?' You're darn right I was mad. I got one usher and one politician."Meanwhile, Donald Hodge is down the floor and he's got his hands in the air. Meanwhile, Houston's shooting a 3 over him, and we're only up by 6."Donald is a very sensitive player. He gets upset when things don't go his way. Now you know why I call him 'Mr. Diapers' and I didn't start him early in the season. To get him ticked off."
Asked if his reaction is basketball strategy or character-building, Chaney replied: "Well, it's character, but you also got to figure that you can beat on a chicken 50,000 times but sooner or later he'll get off the floor and beat the stuffing out of you. Even Tyson's discovering that now."The Temple players audited Chaney's monologue at every press conference, and on the court, too. Graduation rates are one thing, but it is also true that education comes in many forms, and is hardly confined to the lecture hall.
SPORTS OF THE TIMESSPORTS OF THE TIMES; John Chaney Teaches A LessonBy [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/by/george-vecsey[/URL]]George Vecsey[/url] 1991
- There are four very good coaches in the Final Four, but I can't help wishing we could bring along John Chaney of Temple University as an attitude adjuster.Chaney has never reached the Final Four of Division I (although he did win the Division II title at Cheyney State). It is not enough that he attends the meetings and gives his pungent opinions on life and times.He caught my attention during the recent regional in New Jersey when he saved his angriest diatribe at his own players for the end of an overtime when they were beating Oklahoma State.Every athlete in America should have witnessed Chaney on the sideline, screaming and gesturing and, if my lip-reading skills have not deserted me, a harsh word or two.
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"You see them out there, slapping hands, doing all kinds of gyrations," Chaney said. "I don't like it. Never have."Chaney's lesson should have been noticed by every defensive end in football who performs a sack dance over a fallen quarterback, every baseball slugger who takes a curtain call for a home run, every basketball player who runs around with his hands imitating the landing flaps of an airplane.Actually you may not see that much posturing during the Final Four that begins Saturday in Indianapolis.Dean Smith of North Carolina and Mike Krzyzewski of Duke do not tolerate much woofing and tweeting, and Roy Williams of Kansas is a Smith protege
Jerry Tarkanian's defending champions from the University of Nevada-Las Vegas have been through it all before, so maybe we can expect their anticipated repeat to be "professional," if that were not a dirty word in the old scholar-athlete business.THE MORNING: Make sense of the day’s news and ideas. David Leonhardt and Times journalists guide you through what’s happening — and why it matters.
Sign UpThere are enough problems in college sports without the woofing. A current study in The Chronicle of Higher Education has confirmed that big-time basketball and football players do not graduate at the same rate as "regular" students.On the other hand, the five-year graduation rate for all athletes is 56.1 percent, compared to 47.5 percent for all students, which says something about the intelligence and motivation of fencers, soccer players, swimmers, male and female.The lower rate for big-time basketball and football players confirms that the system is stacked against them. They are recruited for reasons having little to do with academics, and then they are pressured into working full time at a nonpaying job, which leaves little time for studying.But there are lessons, and there are lessons. Chaney, who has made a bit of a jerk of himself in the past with his comments about officials, does his best to portray himself as a hoops version of the earthy, irascible George Jefferson of television fame.His vision and his motives have more than a trace of the subtle, idealistic Cliff Huxtable."If you can't modify behavior when you're coaching, when can you?" Chaney sputtered."I see guys spiking the football when they're ahead by 30 points. What's the sense? I don't want to see Carolina putting salt in my wounds and I'm sure they don't want to see us do it, either."
Chaney said he was mad at Victor Carstarphen for "growling at Houston," burly 6-foot-7-inch, 235-pound Byron Houston of Oklahoma State."I asked Vic, 'Do you see his arms? Why you want to talk to him?' So then Victor goes around patting him on the back."I told him, save it for after the game. Then go tell him you played a good game. Then go to your room."Then, Victor comes over and starts explaining it to me like he's a politician. 'Well, umm, you see, this is what I meant. . . .' ""Also, Mik Kilgore is talking to everybody like he's an usher. 'You want a seat over here? You want popcorn?' You're darn right I was mad. I got one usher and one politician."Meanwhile, Donald Hodge is down the floor and he's got his hands in the air. Meanwhile, Houston's shooting a 3 over him, and we're only up by 6."Donald is a very sensitive player. He gets upset when things don't go his way. Now you know why I call him 'Mr. Diapers' and I didn't start him early in the season. To get him ticked off."
Asked if his reaction is basketball strategy or character-building, Chaney replied: "Well, it's character, but you also got to figure that you can beat on a chicken 50,000 times but sooner or later he'll get off the floor and beat the stuffing out of you. Even Tyson's discovering that now."The Temple players audited Chaney's monologue at every press conference, and on the court, too. Graduation rates are one thing, but it is also true that education comes in many forms, and is hardly confined to the lecture hall.
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We also have a coach who cares more about his players as people and how they do in life. The times have changed - Cheney would have had to adapted in terms of how he coached, or perish. I hope his graduation rate was very good, but I'm not sure. Do you have any information on it?redmannorth" post=415427 said: