Rico Gathers
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[quote="mjmaherjr" post=293936]I dont smoke at all but they need to decriminalize marijuana[/quote]
I don't either (except about two cigars a week when my cardiologist smokes with me) but a whole lot of work on co-occurring mental illness and substance use disorders in the same patient raises lots of issues about weed"[ul]
[li]does the psychoactive chemical in pot , tetrahydrocannabinol open some pathways in the brain for some folks that are best left closed, with ensuing psychiatric disabilities? [/li]
[li]how many families were broken apart at the border based on the dictum by fiat of AG Sessions with the support of the President, that victims of gang violence were not asylum worthy, when a significant amount of the funding for cartels and the government and law enforcement officials they bribe or terrorize comes from marijuana sales[/li]
[/ul]what is the long term cost to public safety and to paying for technically accurate law enforcement, of having a second widely available intoxicant with a whole different set of currently unknown limits related to when is it okay to drive and when are you liable for public intoxication?[ul]
I don't either (except about two cigars a week when my cardiologist smokes with me) but a whole lot of work on co-occurring mental illness and substance use disorders in the same patient raises lots of issues about weed"[ul]
[li]does the psychoactive chemical in pot , tetrahydrocannabinol open some pathways in the brain for some folks that are best left closed, with ensuing psychiatric disabilities? [/li]
[li]how many families were broken apart at the border based on the dictum by fiat of AG Sessions with the support of the President, that victims of gang violence were not asylum worthy, when a significant amount of the funding for cartels and the government and law enforcement officials they bribe or terrorize comes from marijuana sales[/li]
[/ul]what is the long term cost to public safety and to paying for technically accurate law enforcement, of having a second widely available intoxicant with a whole different set of currently unknown limits related to when is it okay to drive and when are you liable for public intoxication?[ul]
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[quote="fuchsia" post=293937][quote="mjmaherjr" post=293936]I dont smoke at all but they need to decriminalize marijuana[/quote]
I don't either (except about two cigars a week when my cardiologist smokes with me) but a whole lot of work on co-occurring mental illness and substance use disorders in the same patient raises lots of issues about weed"[ul]
[li]does the psychoactive chemical in pot , tetrahydrocannabinol open some pathways in the brain for some folks that are best left closed, with ensuing psychiatric disabilities? [/li]
[li]how many families were broken apart at the border based on the dictum by fiat of AG Sessions with the support of the President, that victims of gang violence were not asylum worthy, when a significant amount of the funding for cartels and the government and law enforcement officials they bribe or terrorize comes from marijuana sales[/li]
[/ul]what is the long term cost to public safety and to paying for technically accurate law enforcement, of having a second widely available intoxicant with a whole different set of currently unknown limits related to when is it okay to drive and when are you liable for public intoxication?[ul][/quote]
Interesting & sobering (no pun) comments, Fuchsia, but I thought thorough studies on weed were few and far between because of its 'Category 1' Drug designation by the Feds?
I always thought the dangers of 'alcohol' (including my beloved vino rosa) were far worse than 'grass'. I might be wrong on that.
Good point on allowing a second category of intoxicants into the 'driving intoxicated' question.
Thanks.
I don't either (except about two cigars a week when my cardiologist smokes with me) but a whole lot of work on co-occurring mental illness and substance use disorders in the same patient raises lots of issues about weed"[ul]
[li]does the psychoactive chemical in pot , tetrahydrocannabinol open some pathways in the brain for some folks that are best left closed, with ensuing psychiatric disabilities? [/li]
[li]how many families were broken apart at the border based on the dictum by fiat of AG Sessions with the support of the President, that victims of gang violence were not asylum worthy, when a significant amount of the funding for cartels and the government and law enforcement officials they bribe or terrorize comes from marijuana sales[/li]
[/ul]what is the long term cost to public safety and to paying for technically accurate law enforcement, of having a second widely available intoxicant with a whole different set of currently unknown limits related to when is it okay to drive and when are you liable for public intoxication?[ul][/quote]
Interesting & sobering (no pun) comments, Fuchsia, but I thought thorough studies on weed were few and far between because of its 'Category 1' Drug designation by the Feds?
I always thought the dangers of 'alcohol' (including my beloved vino rosa) were far worse than 'grass'. I might be wrong on that.
Good point on allowing a second category of intoxicants into the 'driving intoxicated' question.
Thanks.
A lot of damage done by Harry Anslinger (genius behind Reefer Madness) as first head of Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs. Committed to whatever facts helped his organizational budget and personal influence with minimal attention to science (either biochemical or social). Marijuana is currently being deciphered. What may be far worse is that Anslinger got away with hamstringing the medical community in to the early 60's in terms of real studies on opiates.
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Ask Firestorm or I in a 14 months from now when marijuana will have been legal in Canada for 12 months. It will be very interesting to see the problems that arise.
Keeping this on topic I know a ton of people who ummm like to smoke like Rico Gathers and in just my opinion the effects of that are much less than alcohol and you also benefit another industry ( the food industry when you have the munchies )
I'd rather make it legal and tax it to ( gathers the money ) and you are going to save a hell of a lot of tax money from not arresting people smoking. The other drugs I'm all on board keeping them illegal. Ironically the people I know who smoke drink a lot less alcohol than my other friends
Knew someone with Glaucoma who was in his 70's and it directly helped him.
Certain groups benefitted during prohibition and I think legalizing it is going to marginalize a lot of unsavory people
I'd rather make it legal and tax it to ( gathers the money ) and you are going to save a hell of a lot of tax money from not arresting people smoking. The other drugs I'm all on board keeping them illegal. Ironically the people I know who smoke drink a lot less alcohol than my other friends
Knew someone with Glaucoma who was in his 70's and it directly helped him.
Certain groups benefitted during prohibition and I think legalizing it is going to marginalize a lot of unsavory people
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=293944]Keeping this on topic I know a ton of people who ummm like to smoke like Rico Gathers and in just my opinion the effects of that are much less than alcohol and you also benefit another industry ( the food industry when you have the munchies )
I'd rather make it legal and tax it to ( gathers the money ) and you are going to save a hell of a lot of tax money from not arresting people smoking. The other drugs I'm all on board keeping them illegal. Ironically the people I know who smoke drink a lot less alcohol than my other friends
Knew someone with Glaucoma who was in his 70's and it directly helped him.
Certain groups benefitted during prohibition and I think legalizing it is going to marginalize a lot of unsavory people[/quote]
It also has effective pain management effects. I know that from my son, who has knee and back issues (from football) and from a number of Veteran friends.
It’s basically ‘legal’ in Colorado and I don’t recall hearing much follow-up socio-medical ruptures as a result.
More research would be good. Not arguing against that.
And you’re right Mike: it greatly benefits the snack food industry!
I'd rather make it legal and tax it to ( gathers the money ) and you are going to save a hell of a lot of tax money from not arresting people smoking. The other drugs I'm all on board keeping them illegal. Ironically the people I know who smoke drink a lot less alcohol than my other friends
Knew someone with Glaucoma who was in his 70's and it directly helped him.
Certain groups benefitted during prohibition and I think legalizing it is going to marginalize a lot of unsavory people[/quote]
It also has effective pain management effects. I know that from my son, who has knee and back issues (from football) and from a number of Veteran friends.
It’s basically ‘legal’ in Colorado and I don’t recall hearing much follow-up socio-medical ruptures as a result.
More research would be good. Not arguing against that.
And you’re right Mike: it greatly benefits the snack food industry!
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It also has effective pain management effects. I know that from my son, who has knee and back issues (from football) and from a number of Veteran friends.
It’s basically ‘legal’ in Colorado and I don’t recall hearing much follow-up socio-medical ruptures as a result.
More research would be good. Not arguing against that.
And you’re right Mike: it greatly benefits the snack food industry![/quote]
Just to be clear the use of marijuana for medicinal purposes has been legal in the great white North for a few years ( MJMaher winter is coming ). You must have a prescription from a physician in order to be able to order same from the few who had licenses from Health Canada ?? permitting them to grow Marijuana for medicinal purposes.
It also has effective pain management effects. I know that from my son, who has knee and back issues (from football) and from a number of Veteran friends.
It’s basically ‘legal’ in Colorado and I don’t recall hearing much follow-up socio-medical ruptures as a result.
More research would be good. Not arguing against that.
And you’re right Mike: it greatly benefits the snack food industry![/quote]
Just to be clear the use of marijuana for medicinal purposes has been legal in the great white North for a few years ( MJMaher winter is coming ). You must have a prescription from a physician in order to be able to order same from the few who had licenses from Health Canada ?? permitting them to grow Marijuana for medicinal purposes.
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[quote="mjmaherjr" post=293936]I dont smoke at all but they need to decriminalize marijauana[/quote]
Weed has been the most maligned substance for decades. More maligned than Mullin and Lavin combined.
I'll admit that I was a toker in my youth and sure the hell did my share of drinking and will say that weed was the least harmful of the two by a mile.
Here in NYC it has been basically been decriminalized just this past week. I feel for the thousands that were arrested and jailed and had their record stained by the inequitable application of the laws. This was especially true in minority communities.
Weed has been the most maligned substance for decades. More maligned than Mullin and Lavin combined.
I'll admit that I was a toker in my youth and sure the hell did my share of drinking and will say that weed was the least harmful of the two by a mile.
Here in NYC it has been basically been decriminalized just this past week. I feel for the thousands that were arrested and jailed and had their record stained by the inequitable application of the laws. This was especially true in minority communities.
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=293936]I dont smoke at all but they need to decriminalize marijauana[/quote]
Still have room for you north of the 49th parallel. Weed will be officially legal in Canada on October 17th.
Like you, I'm not a smoker and legalization won't have any material impact on my life. But the time had come to do away with some archaic laws and better manage the distribution and regulation of a substance that has become pretty mainstream.
Still have room for you north of the 49th parallel. Weed will be officially legal in Canada on October 17th.
Like you, I'm not a smoker and legalization won't have any material impact on my life. But the time had come to do away with some archaic laws and better manage the distribution and regulation of a substance that has become pretty mainstream.
Spocky Ramone
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[instagram][/instagram][quote="Chicago Days" post=293946][quote="mjmaherjr" post=293944]Keeping this on topic I know a ton of people who ummm like to smoke like Rico Gathers and in just my opinion the effects of that are much less than alcohol and you also benefit another industry ( the food industry when you have the munchies )
I'd rather make it legal and tax it to ( gathers the money ) and you are going to save a hell of a lot of tax money from not arresting people smoking. The other drugs I'm all on board keeping them illegal. Ironically the people I know who smoke drink a lot less alcohol than my other friends
Knew someone with Glaucoma who was in his 70's and it directly helped him.
Certain groups benefitted during prohibition and I think legalizing it is going to marginalize a lot of unsavory people[/quote]
It also has effective pain management effects. I know that from my son, who has knee and back issues (from football) and from a number of Veteran friends.
It’s basically ‘legal’ in Colorado and I don’t recall hearing much follow-up socio-medical ruptures as a result.
More research would be good. Not arguing against that.
And you’re right Mike: it greatly benefits the snack food industry![/quote]
Some might construe this to mean you're pro-obesity or anti-healthy lifestyle. Not me though, I just want to create a whirlpool in the cauldron and avoid the obvious pun.
I'd rather make it legal and tax it to ( gathers the money ) and you are going to save a hell of a lot of tax money from not arresting people smoking. The other drugs I'm all on board keeping them illegal. Ironically the people I know who smoke drink a lot less alcohol than my other friends
Knew someone with Glaucoma who was in his 70's and it directly helped him.
Certain groups benefitted during prohibition and I think legalizing it is going to marginalize a lot of unsavory people[/quote]
It also has effective pain management effects. I know that from my son, who has knee and back issues (from football) and from a number of Veteran friends.
It’s basically ‘legal’ in Colorado and I don’t recall hearing much follow-up socio-medical ruptures as a result.
More research would be good. Not arguing against that.
And you’re right Mike: it greatly benefits the snack food industry![/quote]
Some might construe this to mean you're pro-obesity or anti-healthy lifestyle. Not me though, I just want to create a whirlpool in the cauldron and avoid the obvious pun.
ErickTheRed
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So instead of discussing upcoming season and hope for an NCAA run, we are talking bout a former recruit who decided to go to Baylor, wasn’t good enough to play pro basketball....made cowboys practice roster now gets arrested for weed....no wonder we can’t fill a decent sized arena.
SJU14
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[quote="ErickTheRed" post=293981]So instead of discussing upcoming season and hope for an NCAA run, we are talking bout a former recruit who decided to go to Baylor, wasn’t good enough to play pro basketball....made cowboys practice roster now gets arrested for weed....no wonder we can’t fill a decent sized arena.[/quote]
At least it's something original to talk about
At least it's something original to talk about
[quote="ErickTheRed" post=293981]So instead of discussing upcoming season and hope for an NCAA run, we are talking bout a former recruit who decided to go to Baylor, wasn’t good enough to play pro basketball....made cowboys practice roster now gets arrested for weed....no wonder we can’t fill a decent sized arena.[/quote] someone needs a bong hit 