Recruiting-2nd Chance

[Knight]

Are we going to get involved with any kids jumping ship after this recruiting scandal?


I.e. Top-10 prospect Anfernee Simons and top-50 prospect Courtney Ramey both decommitted from Louisville on Wednesday: per Jeff Borzello

 

[SJU85]

Are we going to get involved with any kids jumping ship after this recruiting scandal?


I.e. Top-10 prospect Anfernee Simons and top-50 prospect Courtney Ramey both decommitted from Louisville on Wednesday: per Jeff Borzello

It would be difficult unless we had serious involvement from the beginning. Most likely will look at the other schools they considered. If they decide to open it up, it would be nice if we could jump in catch one.

 

[thakid]

Are we going to get involved with any kids jumping ship after this recruiting scandal?


I.e. Top-10 prospect Anfernee Simons and top-50 prospect Courtney Ramey both decommitted from Louisville on Wednesday: per Jeff Borzello

I'd think as it applies to any local kids this can only help. Programs would be insane right now to risk paying players with the investigations going on. If families aren't getting paid, and don't have offers from blue bloods, staying home and playing for 2 HOFers is a really strong sell.

 

[we are sju]

Are we going to get involved with any kids jumping ship after this recruiting scandal?


I.e. Top-10 prospect Anfernee Simons and top-50 prospect Courtney Ramey both decommitted from Louisville on Wednesday: per Jeff Borzello

I'd think as it applies to any local kids this can only help. Programs would be insane right now to risk paying players with the investigations going on. If families aren't getting paid, and don't have offers from blue bloods, staying home and playing for 2 HOFers is a really strong sell.

'We are not very good, we no longer play at the Garden but at least we won't pay you." That does not inspire much confidence as a recruiting pitch IMO. But hey you never know.

 

[thakid]

Are we going to get involved with any kids jumping ship after this recruiting scandal?


I.e. Top-10 prospect Anfernee Simons and top-50 prospect Courtney Ramey both decommitted from Louisville on Wednesday: per Jeff Borzello

I'd think as it applies to any local kids this can only help. Programs would be insane right now to risk paying players with the investigations going on. If families aren't getting paid, and don't have offers from blue bloods, staying home and playing for 2 HOFers is a really strong sell.

'We are not very good, we no longer play at the Garden but at least we won't pay you." That does not inspire much confidence as a recruiting pitch IMO. But hey you never know.

"We aren't going to be on probation, and NO ONE is paying you, so keep your kid home and we'll open the doors to you and your family whenever you want to see your baby boy. Oh yeah and check out my Hall of Fame plaque...and Mitch's."

 

[we are sju]

Are we going to get involved with any kids jumping ship after this recruiting scandal?


I.e. Top-10 prospect Anfernee Simons and top-50 prospect Courtney Ramey both decommitted from Louisville on Wednesday: per Jeff Borzello

I'd think as it applies to any local kids this can only help. Programs would be insane right now to risk paying players with the investigations going on. If families aren't getting paid, and don't have offers from blue bloods, staying home and playing for 2 HOFers is a really strong sell.

'We are not very good, we no longer play at the Garden but at least we won't pay you." That does not inspire much confidence as a recruiting pitch IMO. But hey you never know.

"We aren't going to be on probation, and NO ONE is paying you, so keep your kid home and we'll open the doors to you and your family whenever you want to see your baby boy. Oh yeah and check out my Hall of Fame plaque...and Mitch's."

If the 40 or so programs that are better than us all get caught up in this..... then yeah maybe. Pretty sure this whole will have no effect on us though.

 

[thakid]

I'm not talking about the top 10-20 kids. But kids in the 20-100 range - NYC kids - aren't going to auburn or Stillwater or other bumblef*** places over NYC if there is no monetary incentive. I just don't see us losing all the guys we've lost without this.

 

[austour]

I'm not talking about the top 10-20 kids. But kids in the 20-100 range - NYC kids - aren't going to auburn or Stillwater or other bumblef*** places over NYC if there is no monetary incentive. I just don't see us losing all the guys we've lost without this.

That's a ridiculous statement. Plain and simple.

 

[TRabinowitz]

Are we going to get involved with any kids jumping ship after this recruiting scandal?


I.e. Top-10 prospect Anfernee Simons and top-50 prospect Courtney Ramey both decommitted from Louisville on Wednesday: per Jeff Borzello

I wouldn't touch any of these kids from any of these schools to be honest. You don't know which of these players will have things come out during the investigations going on. Would be a roll of the dice eligibility wise.

 

[we are sju]

Are we going to get involved with any kids jumping ship after this recruiting scandal?


I.e. Top-10 prospect Anfernee Simons and top-50 prospect Courtney Ramey both decommitted from Louisville on Wednesday: per Jeff Borzello

I wouldn't touch any of these kids from any of these schools to be honest. You don't know which of these players will have things come out during the investigations going on. Would be a roll of the dice eligibility wise.

We took a kid -and glad we did who went to 72 High Schools. We should have Mathew Mcconaughey's recruiting strategy from We are Marshall:We are ST John's we'll take anybody.

 

[Class of 72]

Are we going to get involved with any kids jumping ship after this recruiting scandal?


I.e. Top-10 prospect Anfernee Simons and top-50 prospect Courtney Ramey both decommitted from Louisville on Wednesday: per Jeff Borzello

I wouldn't touch any of these kids from any of these schools to be honest. You don't know which of these players will have things come out during the investigations going on. Would be a roll of the dice eligibility wise.

You get partial credit with that answer.
Given that the assistant coaches were offering indirect $ to their recruits you can bet your next free tickets to a St. John's game that was the modus operandi at those schools. Hence any of the 5 star recruits signed by those schools were in on it and now will look at other "offers" because their well just ran dry.

 

[thakid]

I'm not talking about the top 10-20 kids. But kids in the 20-100 range - NYC kids - aren't going to auburn or Stillwater or other bumblef*** places over NYC if there is no monetary incentive. I just don't see us losing all the guys we've lost without this.

That's a ridiculous statement. Plain and simple.

Yeah - whys that ? You think with no monetary incentive we lose EVERY nyc kid we've lost but apparently had strong relationships with? There's no way to prove one way or the other. To say the statement is ridiculous, is absurd.

 

[austour]

I'm not talking about the top 10-20 kids. But kids in the 20-100 range - NYC kids - aren't going to auburn or Stillwater or other bumblef*** places over NYC if there is no monetary incentive. I just don't see us losing all the guys we've lost without this.

That's a ridiculous statement. Plain and simple.

Yeah - whys that ? You think with no monetary incentive we lose EVERY nyc kid we've lost but apparently had strong relationships with? There's no way to prove one way or the other. To say the statement is ridiculous, is absurd.

Okay, I read all as in all would stay. No, you are correct, it is likely there is at least one player who dropped STJ for a better $ offer (in an era where the ability to profer a $ offer is/was a necessary part of the recruiting toolkit). Makes me wonder if there was a budget cut after 2011. Assuming the events of the past couple of days change the landscape it'll be interesting to see how STJ fits in the new recruiting dynamic.

 

[thakid]

I'm not talking about the top 10-20 kids. But kids in the 20-100 range - NYC kids - aren't going to auburn or Stillwater or other bumblef*** places over NYC if there is no monetary incentive. I just don't see us losing all the guys we've lost without this.

That's a ridiculous statement. Plain and simple.

Yeah - whys that ? You think with no monetary incentive we lose EVERY nyc kid we've lost but apparently had strong relationships with? There's no way to prove one way or the other. To say the statement is ridiculous, is absurd.

Okay, I read all as in all would stay. No, you are correct, it is likely there is at least one player who dropped STJ for a better $ offer (in an era where the ability to profer a $ offer is/was a necessary part of the recruiting toolkit). Makes me wonder if there was a budget cut after 2011. Assuming the events of the past couple of days change the landscape it'll be interesting to see how STJ fits in the new recruiting dynamic.

Ah - I see. No worries - agreed I actually think we get a minority of these kids that we were involved in and lost to non blue bloods but it only takes keeping a couple to change the dynamic of a basketball program. Let's hope this evens out the playing field. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind is going to be cheating for the foreseeable future with this investigation going on.