Rebounding Woes/NY Post Article
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Ray Morgan
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Mullin mentioned a lack of technique as one of the problems. The nice thing about watching the games on DVR is replaying missed defensive rebounds. I have seen each front court player miss rebounds because of poor fundamentals. Their man goes around them, and sometimes through them. We have sufficient length and hops with Yakwe and Owens to at least keep opponents from jumping over them. So it's not height and length that's missing, it's fight and strength.
Fixing the technique is on the staff. Fixing their softness is a bigger problem. Part of the defensive rebounding deficiency results from our bigs going for blocks, and no rotation to help rebound when they do. Wouldn't happen so much if we could keep guards from penetrating at will.
Appreciate the thoughtful analysis in this article related to an obvious issue, especially as it relates to not creating transition offense which is a key for us. Also have little doubt technique can be improved.
But we start a 4 at the 5 and a 3 at the 4, and our closest thing to a true 5 off the bench is more of a stretch/long/athletic big. Our third leading rebounder is a 6-1, 170 pound freshman guard (credit to him). So on one level we just need true inside/post players. Effort and technique likely isn't stopping Delgado. He's had double digit boards in all but 4 games this season (all but 1 in the Big East) and has chewed up much bigger more physical teams than us. You slow Delgado with guys like him which we obviously need.
Or with overall team commitment to the space, which we seem to lack. Nova doesn't play a guy over 6-9 and is mostly more in the 6-5 to 6-7 range. On a day when the teams shot fairly similar percentages and had fairly similar TO numbers (albeit Nova a little better in both categories), it's tough to explain a deficit of 21 on the glass. But everyone that played for Nova that game had at least 3 rebounds. We only had one guy with more than 3, four guys with 1, and another with 0.
Small sample size and slightly misleading as 2 of our guys played under 5 minutes, but the point is on Villanova everyone rebounds. On SJU everyone doesn't and I'm not sure I understand why the #3 team in the country has players with way more talent than some of our guys rebounding and we don't. There are a few players in particular who think what they primarily bring to this team is offense and what they probably should be bringing is other things like rebounding (and defense).
But we start a 4 at the 5 and a 3 at the 4, and our closest thing to a true 5 off the bench is more of a stretch/long/athletic big. Our third leading rebounder is a 6-1, 170 pound freshman guard (credit to him). So on one level we just need true inside/post players. Effort and technique likely isn't stopping Delgado. He's had double digit boards in all but 4 games this season (all but 1 in the Big East) and has chewed up much bigger more physical teams than us. You slow Delgado with guys like him which we obviously need.
Or with overall team commitment to the space, which we seem to lack. Nova doesn't play a guy over 6-9 and is mostly more in the 6-5 to 6-7 range. On a day when the teams shot fairly similar percentages and had fairly similar TO numbers (albeit Nova a little better in both categories), it's tough to explain a deficit of 21 on the glass. But everyone that played for Nova that game had at least 3 rebounds. We only had one guy with more than 3, four guys with 1, and another with 0.
Small sample size and slightly misleading as 2 of our guys played under 5 minutes, but the point is on Villanova everyone rebounds. On SJU everyone doesn't and I'm not sure I understand why the #3 team in the country has players with way more talent than some of our guys rebounding and we don't. There are a few players in particular who think what they primarily bring to this team is offense and what they probably should be bringing is other things like rebounding (and defense).
As for all your posts, you make some great points. Keeping Delgado to 10 rebounds would be an accomplishment but giving up 20 is not. We need to work on goals. Yankees while giving up significant size needs to work on boxing out Delgado and keeping him further from the basket. Whether he wants to do this is another story but that should be his goal. For Owens because of his lack of strength I think this is more difficult but he has to try as well.
Rebounding is as much about instincts and ability as it is size e.g. Ponds vs Ellison. Thats not to say that we dont need some rebounders, cause sure as shit we do, I just think the greater impact derived from competent bigs will come on the offensive end.
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Personal wise we are going to have a problem rebounding. But I do agree Yakwe and even Owens need to rebound better despite their disadvantages. The thing I didn't understand was calling out Ahmed? As frustrating as he is he does play hard and is our leader rebounder, for whatever that is worth. And if you want to call out someone for their aversion to looseballs then Ellison is the prime culprit on that one.