PJ3 on Scott Drew

 Take note Ricardo Gathers ;D

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...ebook.santa.barbara/index.html?sct=nba_t12_a0

"Asked if he thought he was used properly in college, Jones said, "I don't think so. Not at all. Seeing the player that I've become over the past month or so, I wasn't used well at all."
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I don't know Moose, that sounds like a line your agent would instruct you to tell people, to explain why you weren't as impactful in college as your talent suggests you should have been.

Perry got tons of playing time, and had the rock in his hand quite a bit, he just wasn't consistently aggressive. That's on him, not Drew. Drew might be the dirtiest recruiter out there, but I actually don't mind his coaching. His teams were well prepared in the tournament when I saw them. Just my 2 cents, but that quote sounds like somebody trying to get drafter high, and explaining why they didn't dominate in college.
 
 Take note Ricardo Gathers ;D

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...ebook.santa.barbara/index.html?sct=nba_t12_a0

"Asked if he thought he was used properly in college, Jones said, "I don't think so. Not at all. Seeing the player that I've become over the past month or so, I wasn't used well at all."
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I don't know Moose, that sounds like a line your agent would instruct you to tell people, to explain why you weren't as impactful in college as your talent suggests you should have been.

Perry got tons of playing time, and had the rock in his hand quite a bit, he just wasn't consistently aggressive. That's on him, not Drew. Drew might be the dirtiest recruiter out there, but I actually don't mind his coaching. His teams were well prepared in the tournament when I saw them. Just my 2 cents, but that quote sounds like somebody trying to get drafter high, and explaining why they didn't dominate in college.
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Look at it however you might.
Its not something Drew wants to have his recruits hear I'm sure.
 
 Take note Ricardo Gathers ;D

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...ebook.santa.barbara/index.html?sct=nba_t12_a0

"Asked if he thought he was used properly in college, Jones said, "I don't think so. Not at all. Seeing the player that I've become over the past month or so, I wasn't used well at all."
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I don't know Moose, that sounds like a line your agent would instruct you to tell people, to explain why you weren't as impactful in college as your talent suggests you should have been.

Perry got tons of playing time, and had the rock in his hand quite a bit, he just wasn't consistently aggressive. That's on him, not Drew. Drew might be the dirtiest recruiter out there, but I actually don't mind his coaching. His teams were well prepared in the tournament when I saw them. Just my 2 cents, but that quote sounds like somebody trying to get drafter high, and explaining why they didn't dominate in college.
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You may have a good point, Desco. I also thought that could possibly the case when I read Jones' quote. It also doesn't paint the best picture from a recruiting standpoint, as mentioned by Moose.
 
 PJ3 put up identical numbers to Moe. I don't see Moe's agent out there talking about how he was played out of position. NBA scouts aren't idiots. Draft position is all on workouts which is PJ3's chance to shine, no question about it. PJ3 put up 14 and 7 in 34 mpg. That's pretty damn good for a freshman. I personally feel a quote like his has some undertones about Drew. My 2 cents.
 
 PJ3 put up identical numbers to Moe. I don't see Moe's agent out there talking about how he was played out of position. NBA scouts aren't idiots. Draft position is all on workouts which is PJ3's chance to shine, no question about it. PJ3 put up 14 and 7 in 34 mpg. That's pretty damn good for a freshman. I personally feel a quote like his has some undertones about Drew. My 2 cents.
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Pretty positive I read an article that had Moe saying he wasnt able to show off his perimeter skills as much as he wanted to this yer.
 
 PJ3 put up identical numbers to Moe. I don't see Moe's agent out there talking about how he was played out of position. NBA scouts aren't idiots. Draft position is all on workouts which is PJ3's chance to shine, no question about it. PJ3 put up 14 and 7 in 34 mpg. That's pretty damn good for a freshman. I personally feel a quote like his has some undertones about Drew. My 2 cents.
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Several scouts thought Jones was a top 3 pick, a season ago, before he decided to return to school. Maybe, he truly feels he wasn't used correctly, as to why his stock dropped or this is coming from his agent, in hopes to boost his stock. NBA scouts aren't idiots, but some may feel the need to prime the pump.

Regardless, it doesn't do Drew any good to have this kinda info come out from a (former) player. It could be used against him in recruiting battles.
 
 PJ3 put up identical numbers to Moe. I don't see Moe's agent out there talking about how he was played out of position. NBA scouts aren't idiots. Draft position is all on workouts which is PJ3's chance to shine, no question about it. PJ3 put up 14 and 7 in 34 mpg. That's pretty damn good for a freshman. I personally feel a quote like his has some undertones about Drew. My 2 cents.
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Pretty positive I read an article that had Moe saying he wasnt able to show off his perimeter skills as much as he wanted to this yer.
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If he did I stand corrected. However his shooting % from doesn't exactly help his cause as he had chances.

However as we all know extenuating circumstances affected his numbers for good and for bad.
 
 PJ3 put up identical numbers to Moe. I don't see Moe's agent out there talking about how he was played out of position. NBA scouts aren't idiots. Draft position is all on workouts which is PJ3's chance to shine, no question about it. PJ3 put up 14 and 7 in 34 mpg. That's pretty damn good for a freshman. I personally feel a quote like his has some undertones about Drew. My 2 cents.
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Pretty positive I read an article that had Moe saying he wasnt able to show off his perimeter skills as much as he wanted to this yer.
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If he did I stand corrected. However his shooting % from doesn't exactly help his cause as he had chances.

However as we all know extenuating circumstances affected his numbers for good and for bad.
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Outside of the top 3 or so picks, most guys will say there were aspects of their game that were not developed in college. In most cases it's because kids play differet positions in college than where they wind up in the pros. Moe saying his outside shot wasn't as developed as he'd have liked talks to this. I'm sure if Pelle and JaKarr suited up last year Moe would have seen more time at the three. You could also say that if those two were here Moe might not have been the focus up front as much and put up the numbers he did.
 
 If Lavin could have, he would have surrounded Moe andmwe had him in the perfect slot to succeed. Sme would say he already is because his work around the glass probably brought him into first round. Difficult for coaches to develop every aspect of a kid's game in a few short months. I thought SJU staff did a phenom job with Moe. He touched the ball a ton both inside and on the perimeter.
 
 If Lavin could have, he would have surrounded Moe andmwe had him in the perfect slot to succeed. Sme would say he already is because his work around the glass probably brought him into first round. Difficult for coaches to develop every aspect of a kid's game in a few short months. I thought SJU staff did a phenom job with Moe. He touched the ball a ton both inside and on the perimeter.
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Agree with MCNPA, the staff prepared Moe the best they could.

And I think Moe's comments were noticeably different than Perry Jones's. Moe said something along the lines of
"I wasn't able to show my perimeter game as much as I would've liked this season", to me that's very different than 'I was used incorrectly".

As Moose originally pointed out, the second comment, whether true or not can be read as a slam against your college coach.
 
The staff tried to win some games with a half a roster. I didn't see anything special that they did with individuals other than maybe Phil Greene. Otherwise it was just survival 101 out there. Obviously Moe would still be here if he could have been brought along gradually. That's what happens when nine guys graduate and recruits don't show up. 
 
That's what happens when nine guys graduate and recruits don't show up. 
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Which recruits? If you're talking about the ones that didn't qualify or left during last season, I get it. If you're talking about recruits who played last year, I don't get it.
 
The staff tried to win some games with a half a roster. I didn't see anything special that they did with individuals other than maybe Phil Greene. Otherwise it was just survival 101 out there. Obviously Moe would still be here if he could have been brought along gradually. That's what happens when nine guys graduate and recruits don't show up. 
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Guys like Moe, Greene, Amir and D'Lo were a ton better by the end of the season. Moe and D'Lo finished the season playing like guys that were top 10 in HS and both were all rookie team. Either it was phenomenal scouting or the staff got these kids playing well. We were totally undermanned but still almost won at Cameron with 6 guys, almost all freshmen.
 
The staff tried to win some games with a half a roster. I didn't see anything special that they did with individuals other than maybe Phil Greene. Otherwise it was just survival 101 out there. Obviously Moe would still be here if he could have been brought along gradually. That's what happens when nine guys graduate and recruits don't show up. 
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Guys like Moe, Greene, Amir and D'Lo were a ton better by the end of the season. Moe and D'Lo finished the season playing like guys that were top 10 in HS and both were all rookie team. Either it was phenomenal scouting or the staff got these kids playing well. We were totally undermanned but still almost won at Cameron with 6 guys, almost all freshmen.
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Amir's progress was the most dramatic IMO because he enrolled while the season was already in progress and did not benefit from pre-season activities and the majority of the non-conference schedule
 
 If Lavin could have, he would have surrounded Moe andmwe had him in the perfect slot to succeed. Sme would say he already is because his work around the glass probably brought him into first round. Difficult for coaches to develop every aspect of a kid's game in a few short months. I thought SJU staff did a phenom job with Moe. He touched the ball a ton both inside and on the perimeter.
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If all of the members of the original recruiting class played at St John's last year, Moe would have played the "3" and would been in a perfect position to showcase all of his talent. Still did extremely well under the circumstances.
 
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