Perspective Part 3

panther2

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16-10 and 10-9 in the Big East, definitely a successful season. Even my eternal optimistic self would not have predicted this with all the obstacles the team faced during this season.

Mike Anderson is a leader and we are Blessed to have him at St. Johns. In this season of the Pandemic, St Johns has not had to shut down. Do we really realize how significant this is. We are talking about Asst coaches, players, and support staff adhering to guidelines set down to ensure the safety of everyone. This, in itself, was not an easy accomplishment.

During the season our four most important players, Julian, Posh, Rasheem, and Greg each missed time due to injury. Every time, Coach Anderson was able to pull the team together, and someone stepped up. This is truly a testament to the culture Coach Anderson has built at St. Johns. NO EXCUSES.

While there are probably no guaranteed lottery picks on our roster, what we do have is a TEAM. Managing the playing time and egos of 11 players is not an easy task. Coach Anderson has done this and when players were called upon, they stepped up. Against Seton Hall, McGriff played significant minutes and held his own in a game that was very important for us. At one point in the second half, we had a lineup of McGriff, Wusu, Toro, Earlington, and Dunn on the floor and they held there own. Toro may not have been what we were expecting, but after having been on the bench, contributed to the win. As for next year, if Posh plays 30 minutes, I will be happy to see McGriff play the other 10.

Forget rankings, Posh and Julian can play with anyone in the country and they are a freshman and sophmore. What they have accomplished so far is a credit to player development and their work ethic. Rasheem is Brooklyn tough. I ain't gonna lie, sometimes watching him play I say, WTF? However, he has heart, determination, and is a warrior. Greg has battled through injuries the past two years without complaining. He is quiet, but leads by example, plays hard, and sacrifices his game for the team. At times, maybe too much. Marcellus continues to play hard and come through in whatever way is needed. He defends bigger players and has a knack to make timely baskets. Josh may be limited offensively but understands that is not why he is in the game. He gives us a presence around the rim and has has started to make better decisions with the ball. His assist to Wusu against Seton Hall was textbook.

Dylan reminds me of an old school player who has an innate knowledge of how the game should be played. To think that he is just a freshman, makes me smile. Looking forward to the next three years. I have no idea what his high school ranking was, but am happy that he is at St. Johns.

Vince has shown an ability to score when we need it, has anyone forgotten his late 3 against St Peters. Against Seton Hall, he also came through with timely baskets. Isaih is a force down low offensively, dunks everything. I can't comment on why he did not play more against Seton Hall because I have absolutely no idea. As someone noted in another thread, after being benched against Seton Hall, Isaih continued to root for his teammates. Hopefully, things will be resolved since he is an integral part of the team.

Coach Anderson and staff, much respect for the job they have done. There were times during the season when it all could have fallen apart. The 1-5 start to the Big East season, they held the team together. Injuries to key players, they held it together. Disappointing losses to Butler and DePaul towards the end of the season, they held it together. While I haven't seen any games in person, watching on television, I see a familial bond in the program. That comes from the top. As Otis stated previously, seeing Coach Anderson kiss his wife after the game, is a lesson in itself for the players.

Mike Cragg has to be commended for guiding the program through a difficult transition. His decision to hire Mike Anderson was the beginning of the process of building a successful program.

Now, on to the Big East tournament where we won't be playing on opening night for the first time in a while
 
looking fiarward to a huge BET run winning that then taking a couple games in the NCAA and the Perspective 4 thread :)
 
panther2" post=424259 said:
16-10 and 10-9 in the Big East, definitely a successful season. Even my eternal optimistic self would not have predicted this with all the obstacles the team faced during this season.

Mike Anderson is a leader and we are Blessed to have him at St. Johns. In this season of the Pandemic, St Johns has not had to shut down. Do we really realize how significant this is. We are talking about Asst coaches, players, and support staff adhering to guidelines set down to ensure the safety of everyone. This, in itself, was not an easy accomplishment.

During the season our four most important players, Julian, Posh, Rasheem, and Greg each missed time due to injury. Every time, Coach Anderson was able to pull the team together, and someone stepped up. This is truly a testament to the culture Coach Anderson has built at St. Johns. NO EXCUSES.

While there are probably no guaranteed lottery picks on our roster, what we do have is a TEAM. Managing the playing time and egos of 11 players is not an easy task. Coach Anderson has done this and when players were called upon, they stepped up. Against Seton Hall, McGriff played significant minutes and held his own in a game that was very important for us. At one point in the second half, we had a lineup of McGriff, Wusu, Toro, Earlington, and Dunn on the floor and they held there own. Toro may not have been what we were expecting, but after having been on the bench, contributed to the win. As for next year, if Posh plays 30 minutes, I will be happy to see McGriff play the other 10.

Forget rankings, Posh and Julian can play with anyone in the country and they are a freshman and sophmore. What they have accomplished so far is a credit to player development and their work ethic. Rasheem is Brooklyn tough. I ain't gonna lie, sometimes watching him play I say, WTF? However, he has heart, determination, and is a warrior. Greg has battled through injuries the past two years without complaining. He is quiet, but leads by example, plays hard, and sacrifices his game for the team. At times, maybe too much. Marcellus continues to play hard and come through in whatever way is needed. He defends bigger players and has a knack to make timely baskets. Josh may be limited offensively but understands that is not why he is in the game. He gives us a presence around the rim and has has started to make better decisions with the ball. His assist to Wusu against Seton Hall was textbook.

Dylan reminds me of an old school player who has an innate knowledge of how the game should be played. To think that he is just a freshman, makes me smile. Looking forward to the next three years. I have no idea what his high school ranking was, but am happy that he is at St. Johns.

Vince has shown an ability to score when we need it, has anyone forgotten his late 3 against St Peters. Against Seton Hall, he also came through with timely baskets. Isaih is a force down low offensively, dunks everything. I can't comment on why he did not play more against Seton Hall because I have absolutely no idea. As someone noted in another thread, after being benched against Seton Hall, Isaih continued to root for his teammates. Hopefully, things will be resolved since he is an integral part of the team.

Coach Anderson and staff, much respect for the job they have done. There were times during the season when it all could have fallen apart. The 1-5 start to the Big East season, they held the team together. Injuries to key players, they held it together. Disappointing losses to Butler and DePaul towards the end of the season, they held it together. While I haven't seen any games in person, watching on television, I see a familial bond in the program. That comes from the top. As Otis stated previously, seeing Coach Anderson kiss his wife after the game, is a lesson in itself for the players.

Mike Cragg has to be commended for guiding the program through a difficult transition. His decision to hire Mike Anderson was the beginning of the process of building a successful program.

Now, on to the Big East tournament where we won't be playing on opening night for the first time in a while

As always, relevant and concise. Let me just add this about Dylan(was having this conversation with another poster yesterday); for a young man with his body type and strength, he has an amazing amount of agility around the basket. On occasion he is out of control, but like Dunn, I can accept he occasional mistake because of his style of play. Going to the hoop with the ball, he seems to start out like a fullback and finish like a ballet dancer. Great footwork and body control. Like you said, the kid is old school, and I know how much we both enjoy and appreciate old school. For the first time in a long time, not only is the present bright, but the future looks even brighter. 
 
 
Monte" post=424261 said:
panther2" post=424259 said:
16-10 and 10-9 in the Big East, definitely a successful season. Even my eternal optimistic self would not have predicted this with all the obstacles the team faced during this season.

Mike Anderson is a leader and we are Blessed to have him at St. Johns. In this season of the Pandemic, St Johns has not had to shut down. Do we really realize how significant this is. We are talking about Asst coaches, players, and support staff adhering to guidelines set down to ensure the safety of everyone. This, in itself, was not an easy accomplishment.

During the season our four most important players, Julian, Posh, Rasheem, and Greg each missed time due to injury. Every time, Coach Anderson was able to pull the team together, and someone stepped up. This is truly a testament to the culture Coach Anderson has built at St. Johns. NO EXCUSES.

While there are probably no guaranteed lottery picks on our roster, what we do have is a TEAM. Managing the playing time and egos of 11 players is not an easy task. Coach Anderson has done this and when players were called upon, they stepped up. Against Seton Hall, McGriff played significant minutes and held his own in a game that was very important for us. At one point in the second half, we had a lineup of McGriff, Wusu, Toro, Earlington, and Dunn on the floor and they held there own. Toro may not have been what we were expecting, but after having been on the bench, contributed to the win. As for next year, if Posh plays 30 minutes, I will be happy to see McGriff play the other 10.

Forget rankings, Posh and Julian can play with anyone in the country and they are a freshman and sophmore. What they have accomplished so far is a credit to player development and their work ethic. Rasheem is Brooklyn tough. I ain't gonna lie, sometimes watching him play I say, WTF? However, he has heart, determination, and is a warrior. Greg has battled through injuries the past two years without complaining. He is quiet, but leads by example, plays hard, and sacrifices his game for the team. At times, maybe too much. Marcellus continues to play hard and come through in whatever way is needed. He defends bigger players and has a knack to make timely baskets. Josh may be limited offensively but understands that is not why he is in the game. He gives us a presence around the rim and has has started to make better decisions with the ball. His assist to Wusu against Seton Hall was textbook.

Dylan reminds me of an old school player who has an innate knowledge of how the game should be played. To think that he is just a freshman, makes me smile. Looking forward to the next three years. I have no idea what his high school ranking was, but am happy that he is at St. Johns.

Vince has shown an ability to score when we need it, has anyone forgotten his late 3 against St Peters. Against Seton Hall, he also came through with timely baskets. Isaih is a force down low offensively, dunks everything. I can't comment on why he did not play more against Seton Hall because I have absolutely no idea. As someone noted in another thread, after being benched against Seton Hall, Isaih continued to root for his teammates. Hopefully, things will be resolved since he is an integral part of the team.

Coach Anderson and staff, much respect for the job they have done. There were times during the season when it all could have fallen apart. The 1-5 start to the Big East season, they held the team together. Injuries to key players, they held it together. Disappointing losses to Butler and DePaul towards the end of the season, they held it together. While I haven't seen any games in person, watching on television, I see a familial bond in the program. That comes from the top. As Otis stated previously, seeing Coach Anderson kiss his wife after the game, is a lesson in itself for the players.

Mike Cragg has to be commended for guiding the program through a difficult transition. His decision to hire Mike Anderson was the beginning of the process of building a successful program.

Now, on to the Big East tournament where we won't be playing on opening night for the first time in a while

As always, relevant and concise. Let me just add this about Dylan(was having this conversation with another poster yesterday); for a young man with his body type and strength, he has an amazing amount of agility around the basket. On occasion he is out of control, but like Dunn, I can accept he occasional mistake because of his style of play. Going to the hoop with the ball, he seems to start out like a fullback and finish like a ballet dancer. Great footwork and body control. Like you said, the kid is old school, and I know how much we both enjoy and appreciate old school. For the first time in a long time, not only is the present bright, but the future looks even brighter. 


 
Will add that after a mistake, Dylan never let's it bother him and simply moves on to next play. Like the old school type you guys referenced, he impresses me with his understanding of game, moving w/o ball, passing to open man and driving the ball when team get three point happy. OSL coaches did a great job preparing Posh & Dylan for BE play out of the gate.
 
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panther2" post=424259 said:
16-10 and 10-9 in the Big East, definitely a successful season. Even my eternal optimistic self would not have predicted this with all the obstacles the team faced during this season.

Mike Anderson is a leader and we are Blessed to have him at St. Johns. In this season of the Pandemic, St Johns has not had to shut down. Do we really realize how significant this is. We are talking about Asst coaches, players, and support staff adhering to guidelines set down to ensure the safety of everyone. This, in itself, was not an easy accomplishment.

During the season our four most important players, Julian, Posh, Rasheem, and Greg each missed time due to injury. Every time, Coach Anderson was able to pull the team together, and someone stepped up. This is truly a testament to the culture Coach Anderson has built at St. Johns. NO EXCUSES.

While there are probably no guaranteed lottery picks on our roster, what we do have is a TEAM. Managing the playing time and egos of 11 players is not an easy task. Coach Anderson has done this and when players were called upon, they stepped up. Against Seton Hall, McGriff played significant minutes and held his own in a game that was very important for us. At one point in the second half, we had a lineup of McGriff, Wusu, Toro, Earlington, and Dunn on the floor and they held there own. Toro may not have been what we were expecting, but after having been on the bench, contributed to the win. As for next year, if Posh plays 30 minutes, I will be happy to see McGriff play the other 10.

Forget rankings, Posh and Julian can play with anyone in the country and they are a freshman and sophmore. What they have accomplished so far is a credit to player development and their work ethic. Rasheem is Brooklyn tough. I ain't gonna lie, sometimes watching him play I say, WTF? However, he has heart, determination, and is a warrior. Greg has battled through injuries the past two years without complaining. He is quiet, but leads by example, plays hard, and sacrifices his game for the team. At times, maybe too much. Marcellus continues to play hard and come through in whatever way is needed. He defends bigger players and has a knack to make timely baskets. Josh may be limited offensively but understands that is not why he is in the game. He gives us a presence around the rim and has has started to make better decisions with the ball. His assist to Wusu against Seton Hall was textbook.

Dylan reminds me of an old school player who has an innate knowledge of how the game should be played. To think that he is just a freshman, makes me smile. Looking forward to the next three years. I have no idea what his high school ranking was, but am happy that he is at St. Johns.

Vince has shown an ability to score when we need it, has anyone forgotten his late 3 against St Peters. Against Seton Hall, he also came through with timely baskets. Isaih is a force down low offensively, dunks everything. I can't comment on why he did not play more against Seton Hall because I have absolutely no idea. As someone noted in another thread, after being benched against Seton Hall, Isaih continued to root for his teammates. Hopefully, things will be resolved since he is an integral part of the team.

Coach Anderson and staff, much respect for the job they have done. There were times during the season when it all could have fallen apart. The 1-5 start to the Big East season, they held the team together. Injuries to key players, they held it together. Disappointing losses to Butler and DePaul towards the end of the season, they held it together. While I haven't seen any games in person, watching on television, I see a familial bond in the program. That comes from the top. As Otis stated previously, seeing Coach Anderson kiss his wife after the game, is a lesson in itself for the players.

Mike Cragg has to be commended for guiding the program through a difficult transition. His decision to hire Mike Anderson was the beginning of the process of building a successful program.

Now, on to the Big East tournament where we won't be playing on opening night for the first time in a while
Excellent post Panther.  Spot on.
 
Some people told me that they thought that Dylan was a "throw in" and was only offered a scholarship in order to get Posh. Dylan has proven this season that he is a legitimate D-1 player in his own right, has contributed a great deal as a freshman and will only get better during the next three years.

I am really impressed with how CMA and his staff have been able to uncover "hidden gems" and coached them up to be important contributors to our team.
 
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The full measure of the season has gone a long way towards justifying the expectations that some of us have had - and stuck with - from the beginning.

St John's hired a professional coach who has a well-established style and a plan for how he wants to do things.  That plan does not depend on landing a highly ranked recruit or recruiting class for a "sugar high" run of success in one or two seasons.  It does not depend on winning a few games or losing a few games or even about whether we make the NCAA Tournament in Year 2.  It is about bringing in players who have the set of characteristics that fit into the plan and will lay a strong foundation for being competitive on a regular basis.

You've seen that so far with Champagnie, Posh, and Wusu.  If he gets more run, I believe you will see it from McGriff.  Next year three more pieces will be added to that foundation.  You've seen it with the mental toughness of a team that (as Zach B pointed out) just keeps getting up off the mat whether it's in the big picture (win some, lose some, get up and win some more) or the little picture (down 18-0, just keep coming back). 

We are ahead of schedule this year - and to be honest I think it's in part due to the fact that we caught a break with the disruption the pandemic has caused.  As Panther pointed out, SJU has handled it better than virtually every other program - which is again a credit to the professionalism of the staff and the program.  But regardless of the degree to which the pandemic contributes, it was a down year for the league (not just our league) and that presented an opportunity for a well-coached team to exceed expectations (I would put Georgetown in that category as well).

No question that this year has been a fun ride.  It isn't over yet, and it could get a whole lot more fun if we are able to get past the Hall on Thursday.  But either way, it was an important step forward in building the program.

My expectation is what it has always been:  make more progress next year, and hope that by Year 4 or 5 the development of the program having ongoing success will lead to a steady stream of talented players who meet the coach's criteria and will keep us in the top half of the Big East on a perennial basis.

Onward!
 
MarkRedman" post=424267 said:
Some people told me that they thought that Dylan was a "throw in" and was only offered a scholarship in order to get Posh. Dylan has proven this season that he is a legitimate D-1 player in his own right, has contributed a great deal as a freshman and will only get better during the next three years.

I am really impressed with how CMA and his staff have been able to uncover "hidden gems" and coached them up to be important contributors to our team.

Was having a conversation with a well respected poster this morning about the fact that CMA recruits extremely  "coachable" kids. Very similar to the kind of kids Jay Wright recruits. Not comparing talent levels yet, but just the fact that they both recruit kids who want to learn and grow, and are willing to follow direction and put in the work needed to be the best players they can be. These are not just basketball skills they're learning, these are life skills. 
 
 
CMA, unlike our recent coaches, puts his players in a position to succeed. That's what happens when you have a coach with a successful system, and give him a chance to recruit to that system.  Finding the 3 star, under-recruited players has so far been a strong point for the staff. Champ, a 3 star, may be an All-American before he is through here. Wusu and Earlington were big parts of this team. I don't know if there was another Big East school interested in them.

In addition to recruting coachable kids, CMA and his assistants are getting even keeled kids. I would not want to play poker with Champ or Dylan. You can look at them during a game and not know if they are up by 30 or down by 30.

We were picked to finish near the bottom of the conference by many, including the Big East coaches and some basketball publications. We exceeded expectations because our players do not give up. Finishing over 500 in conference is a tremendous achievement considering the youth and inexperience of the roster, the injuries, and the lack of size. The only Big East coach that could have this team finish above 500 is CMA. I truly believe that.
 
Great post panther2. CMA can coach, and if I had a son, Mike Anderson is exactly the type of person I would want my son to learn from, BB and life.
 
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