NYT on Amir and the Reds
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Good read on Amir...It was interesting to read that Amir was scheduled to be a dual sport athlete at St. John's prior to the Reds signing him...Amir was all set to play both basketball and baseball for St. John's...I know that was a topic of discussion when he originally committed to play basketball
It seems he has plenty of talent in both sports, so I think it's a great idea to keep his options open
It seems he has plenty of talent in both sports, so I think it's a great idea to keep his options open
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I asked Lavin this question at the RW pregame late in the seaosn when he made an appearance. His response indicated that Garrett's first love is basketball, and that he is passionate about playing basketball for SJU. Lavin was also laudatory in assessing Garrett's progress, quickly becoming an asset without a pre-season.
That being said, if he can add a little velocity to his 94 mph heater and some pitches to go along with it, he could develop into an imposing mound fixture - not quite Randy Johnson, but huge upside nonetheless.
Also, no knock against Amir... he's a great player to watch and root for, and seems like a good guy as well.
But with the NFL draft being all over ESPN the last few weeks, I found it curious that the article said Amir has a 32 inch vertical. As if that's a significant feat.
The worst vertical jump among any wide receivers, running backs, or corners at the combine was 31 inches.
So either they measure the vertical differently, or Amir is blessed with long arms but not quite the athleticism people claim.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft/combine/_/id/92/sort/vertical
What do you guys make of that? Different measuring methods or could that be true?
But with the NFL draft being all over ESPN the last few weeks, I found it curious that the article said Amir has a 32 inch vertical. As if that's a significant feat.
The worst vertical jump among any wide receivers, running backs, or corners at the combine was 31 inches.
So either they measure the vertical differently, or Amir is blessed with long arms but not quite the athleticism people claim.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft/combine/_/id/92/sort/vertical
What do you guys make of that? Different measuring methods or could that be true?
NBA players have lower VJ average than NFL players. I've read that the average NBA player might have a 30 inch vertical jump, but the average 250 pound NFL linebacker has a 38 inch vertical. The world record standing broad jump is held by a shotputter weighing close to 300 pounds. Go figure!
Id like to see that stat because I find that extremely unlikely.
No problem. Check out the NFL websitehttp://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker, click on the vertical leap icon and choose LB's as the position to track. You'll find that 36-38 vj among the LB's is about the range.
Thanks DFF I believe you but the link didnt work. I just find that insane that nfl linebackers would have higher verticle jumps than many nba players.
It is insane Mase, but apparently true nonetheless. Think of it this way, olympic clean and jerk weight lifters have unbelieveable vertical leaping ability, because they need to explode under the bar with their legs to create enough momentum to push up the 500+ lbs over their heads. At one time, Mark Henry,1996 Olympic Team Member, at 6'3" and over 350 lbs, could actually dunk a basketball, not to mention that he could squat over 1000 lbs and deadlift over 900 lbs. If he lost 100 pounds, he could probably touch the top of the backboard.
FWIW, I have a friend named Joe Carini who has trained several NFL players including Tiki and Ronde Barber and I presented the scenario discussed in the thread about vertical jumping - he is still laughing. For Joe's bona fides you can google him; he and Tiki also wrote a book together and were written up in SI in an article about NFL players and trainers.
What is he laughing about?
LB's are squatting 600 pounds and have legs like tree trunks. My friend played DT for D-3, was 5'10, a relatively poor athlete, yet he could get his wrist well over the rim jumping from a low squat position. The funny thing was that he couldn't even touch rim with a running start. It wasn't functional at all.