Notes about the Garden Experience today

[redmen2014champs]

Crowd was much smaller than I expected especially for important game with Pitt and 2 for 1 ticket giveaway. Crowd wasn't very loud but the team takes most of the blame for that since it was hard to get excited about their play.
Why is Hill Country never open for our games? Big Disappointment.
Why do I need to spend 20 minutes on a line for a hamburger when there are only 4 people in front of me? I do love the look of the new Garden and all the food choices though.
When I saw Jim Burr was the ref I knew we were in trouble, he somehow seems to ref almost every game I watch on TV(and I watch way too many) and he always shows a clear bias in these games. Unfortunately, when doing SJU games he never seems to favor us.
The Garden makes us feel as unwanted guests, after the game I went to the store real quick and they started shutting it down, then I went to use the facilities before the drive home and had to deal with security trying to force everyone out of the building. This was obviously because they needed to get ready for the Knick game 4 1/2 hours later. I asked what would have happened if the game went to multiple OT's. Would they just have ended the game and kicked us all out?

 

[CBA1992]

All valid points I'm sure. I sold my tix today on stub hub for as we could not go for family reasons.

STJ really doesnt have a true home court. We usually play well MSG, but were just overmatched today, so I get why the crowd was in/out. Pitt rarely to never loses on this floor, it is amazing. We really are just a tenant and I agree I never get the same warm and fuzzys as perhaps other home courts provide their fans in other parts of the country. It might be just a NY thing, who knows.

As for the attendance, NYC wants a winner, plain and simple. Beating 2 top 25 teams all year and being a bubble team, just isn't enough to get 15k in the doors. Not to mention, families have tons of sports of there own going on Sundays as well.(hence why I couldn't go today)

As for Burr, although I agree with you, my Nova and ND friends feel the same way about him when he is reffing their games as well. Funny.

Looks like the NIT for us this year, which is certainly an improvement over last season.

 

[Sherman Sheridan & Grant]

All valid points I'm sure. I sold my tix today on stub hub for as we could not go for family reasons.


Looks like the NIT for us this year, which is certainly an improvement over last season.

Nothing at all wrong with NIT - terrific experience and we are not an NCAA team - wait til next year etc.
all the best

 

[beast of the east]

All valid points I'm sure. I sold my tix today on stub hub for as we could not go for family reasons.

STJ really doesnt have a true home court. We usually play well MSG, but were just overmatched today, so I get why the crowd was in/out. Pitt rarely to never loses on this floor, it is amazing. We really are just a tenant and I agree I never get the same warm and fuzzys as perhaps other home courts provide their fans in other parts of the country. It might be just a NY thing, who knows.

As for the attendance, NYC wants a winner, plain and simple. Beating 2 top 25 teams all year and being a bubble team, just isn't enough to get 15k in the doors. Not to mention, families have tons of sports of there own going on Sundays as well.(hence why I couldn't go today)

As for Burr, although I agree with you, my Nova and ND friends feel the same way about him when he is reffing their games as well. Funny.

Looks like the NIT for us this year, which is certainly an improvement over last season.

I dont know how many season ticket holders we have at present. I do know that in NR's last season we were down to about 650 ticket holders accounting for about 2500 seats. It's clear by our CA attendance that we don't have even 4000 season ticket holders now. This means that to fill the Garden, they have to sell as many as 16,000 game tickets. Unfortunately, with such a small season ticket base, we can't fill the Garden, EVEN with what I am sure is the best visitng fan attendance in the conference.

Oh, and as far as the food, I made the mistake of buying chicken fingers and fries as I went in to my seat. They were lukewarm and overcooked, and were probably prepared 30 minutes to an hour before the gmae.

 

[mjmaherjr]

All valid points I'm sure. I sold my tix today on stub hub for as we could not go for family reasons.

STJ really doesnt have a true home court. We usually play well MSG, but were just overmatched today, so I get why the crowd was in/out. Pitt rarely to never loses on this floor, it is amazing. We really are just a tenant and I agree I never get the same warm and fuzzys as perhaps other home courts provide their fans in other parts of the country. It might be just a NY thing, who knows.

As for the attendance, NYC wants a winner, plain and simple. Beating 2 top 25 teams all year and being a bubble team, just isn't enough to get 15k in the doors. Not to mention, families have tons of sports of there own going on Sundays as well.(hence why I couldn't go today)

As for Burr, although I agree with you, my Nova and ND friends feel the same way about him when he is reffing their games as well. Funny.

Looks like the NIT for us this year, which is certainly an improvement over last season.

I dont know how many season ticket holders we have at present. I do know that in NR's last season we were down to about 650 ticket holders accounting for about 2500 seats. It's clear by our CA attendance that we don't have even 4000 season ticket holders now. This means that to fill the Garden, they have to sell as many as 16,000 game tickets. Unfortunately, with such a small season ticket base, we can't fill the Garden, EVEN with what I am sure is the best visitng fan attendance in the conference.

Oh, and as far as the food, I made the mistake of buying chicken fingers and fries as I went in to my seat. They were lukewarm and overcooked, and were probably prepared 30 minutes to an hour before the gmae.

we ate them also. our's were ok. the fries weren't overcooked thank god

 

[DieHard Johnny]

All valid points I'm sure. I sold my tix today on stub hub for as we could not go for family reasons.

STJ really doesnt have a true home court. We usually play well MSG, but were just overmatched today, so I get why the crowd was in/out. Pitt rarely to never loses on this floor, it is amazing. We really are just a tenant and I agree I never get the same warm and fuzzys as perhaps other home courts provide their fans in other parts of the country. It might be just a NY thing, who knows.

As for the attendance, NYC wants a winner, plain and simple. Beating 2 top 25 teams all year and being a bubble team, just isn't enough to get 15k in the doors. Not to mention, families have tons of sports of there own going on Sundays as well.(hence why I couldn't go today)

As for Burr, although I agree with you, my Nova and ND friends feel the same way about him when he is reffing their games as well. Funny.

Looks like the NIT for us this year, which is certainly an improvement over last season.

I dont know how many season ticket holders we have at present. I do know that in NR's last season we were down to about 650 ticket holders accounting for about 2500 seats. It's clear by our CA attendance that we don't have even 4000 season ticket holders now. This means that to fill the Garden, they have to sell as many as 16,000 game tickets. Unfortunately, with such a small season ticket base, we can't fill the Garden, EVEN with what I am sure is the best visitng fan attendance in the conference.

Oh, and as far as the food, I made the mistake of buying chicken fingers and fries as I went in to my seat. They were lukewarm and overcooked, and were probably prepared 30 minutes to an hour before the gmae.

Blame the loss of most season tic holders on Father Harry for hiring a Unproven Head coach after firing Jarvis the User-conman who He should have never hired Mckillop wanted the job & deserved it . Then Moanasch starting a UNfair points system blackmailing us longtime R&W season tic holders w the donate another grand r your in the corner instead of center court after Norms 4 yrs of Losing w No loyalty "the new Vincentian way" Terrible way to treat all of us still hurts me everytime I go to a game & see my seat taken by a Scuse,Uconn fan where it was a sea of RED loyal johnny fans I loved sitting with win or lose WE Were StJ's bloodline. The bloodline should have been grandfathered into their seats very simple until the team made some major improvement like a elite 8 run w a proven coach hired like Lavin Gratitute is a 2way street but not at st.j's
A New AD could fix this mistake by givin those loyal fans back thier seats asap :holdbreath:
ps the garden does not roll out the barrel to st.j's bec. money talks & bs walks
they probably will give scuse 5 home games next yr you will see

 

[salty dog]

All valid points I'm sure. I sold my tix today on stub hub for as we could not go for family reasons.

STJ really doesnt have a true home court. We usually play well MSG, but were just overmatched today, so I get why the crowd was in/out. Pitt rarely to never loses on this floor, it is amazing. We really are just a tenant and I agree I never get the same warm and fuzzys as perhaps other home courts provide their fans in other parts of the country. It might be just a NY thing, who knows.

As for the attendance, NYC wants a winner, plain and simple. Beating 2 top 25 teams all year and being a bubble team, just isn't enough to get 15k in the doors. Not to mention, families have tons of sports of there own going on Sundays as well.(hence why I couldn't go today)

As for Burr, although I agree with you, my Nova and ND friends feel the same way about him when he is reffing their games as well. Funny.

Looks like the NIT for us this year, which is certainly an improvement over last season.

MSG has never been a real home court although SJU promotes it like it was. It is great for recruiting but their is no advantage for the Johnnie's as far as an edge./
Over the years I've seen enough good teams come into the Garden and win with no intimidation factor. Carnesecca arena is a much better home court although not a so called pit. Winning percentage is just not at that level. Imagine if the Carrier Dome was home to the Big East tournament each year. Cuse would win 80 % and the Big East presidents would stop it. Thankfully for them the Johnnie's have been a very gracious "landlord" allowing teams to come to the tournament each year and walk away with their fair share of wins. Pre MSG they rotated the tournament and when up a Cuse, they had a terrible team but won the tournament yet did not get the NCAA bid because they did not have the AQ at that time in the league. Tournament was at Providence, Hartford, and Syracuse before permanently going to the Garden. MSG is not our friend either.. They have failed miserably in promoting or helping their main tenant. Recently Lavin was able to get the Johnnie;s their own locker room, which is the first step in the right direction.

 

[rcatalano]

I agree with MSG not necessarily being a real home court advantage. I would have liked to have Carnesseca arena accomodate 8K -10K in seating and play most, t if not all our our games there!

 

[Moose]

I agree with MSG not necessarily being a real home court advantage. I would have liked to have Carnesseca arena accomodate 8K -10K in seating and play most, t if not all our our games there!

Yeah. Then we might as well appease Newsie and Re-alignment Rob and join the A-10 because our biggest recruiting tool would get obliterated.