Money Magazine - 4 Year Graduation Rates

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MarkRedman

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In the current issue of Money Magazine, I came across an article entitled "Get Your Kid to Graduate on Time"
They posted a chart entitled "How the Biggest Schools Stack Up" and randomly selected schools to comapre
They compared 5 large private schools for students with A averages in H.S., 5 large private schools for kids with B averages and 10 of the largest public universities
Here are the results of the percentage of kids enrolled in each college that graduate in 4 years (all students, not just athletes). Annual costs in parenthesis.

PRIVATE SCHOOLS - "A" AVERAGE IN HIGH SCHOOL
1. Univ. of Pennsylvania - 88.6% (annual cost $59,600)
2. Boston College - 87.2% ($59,000)
3. Cornell - 85.9% ($59,600)
4. N.Y.U. - 79.3% ($62,900)
5. Univ. of Southern Cal - 71.7% ($60,000)

PRIVATE SCHOOLS - "B" AVERAGE IN HIGH SCHOOL
1. Syracuse - 71.6% ($55,600)
2. Baylor - 50.4% ($51,200)
3. DePaul - 47.6% ($47,000)
4. Hofstra - 43.8% ($54,000)
5. ST. JOHN'S (N.Y.) - 36.4% ($55,500)

PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES
1. Penn State (Main Campus) - 62.3% ($28,100)
2. Univ. of Florida - 59.4% ($20,600)
3. Univ. of Texas (Austin) - 52.5% ($24,900)
4. Univ of Indiana (Bloomington) - 49.5% ($23,100)
5. Ohio St (Main Campus) - 48.6% ($24,900)
6. Michigan State - 48.5% ($24,700)
7. Texas A & M - 46.2% ($20,900)
8. Purdue (Main Campus) - 38.1% ($23,500)
9. Univ of Central Florida - 34.8% ($20,300)
10. Arizona State - 32.3% ($23,000)
 
Academia makes the toll on the Whitestone look like a fart in the wind. Same crew is running the country... for now.

Education is always a two way street, both sides have to want it. However, >50k for
 
I read that same article. My oldest is a Sr in HS and has been inundated with "stuff" from SJU. The 4 yr graduation rate is poor, unless it is somehow skewed by other factors like the Pharmacy School or kids going part-time. For the sticker price at SJU, you can get arguably a much better eduaction at the University of Texas or Texas A&M for half the cost... and probably graduate in 4 yrs.
 
IMO STJ's 4 year graduation rate is so low because they are confusing the Vincentian mission.

The Vincentian mission is to educate the poor. I agree with it and that is not the problem, the problem is they confuse the poor for the academically unfit for lack of a better word.

I am all for giving people with less resources a chance at an education, and a good education at that, I praise the university for this. But don't give someone with a 2.2 GPA and a financial hardship a scholarship and admit them into the university because you think its part of the Vincentian mission, then be surprised with the graduation rate.

Being of less financial means and having low grades are very very different things, the university unfortunately confuses them.
 
I would think the $55K is the sticker price (obviously) and includes room and board.

As we know the majority of St. John's students are commuters.

The $55K is not a reflection of the annual cost for the majority of undergrads.
 
I read that same article. My oldest is a Sr in HS and has been inundated with "stuff" from SJU. The 4 yr graduation rate is poor, unless it is somehow skewed by other factors like the Pharmacy School or kids going part-time. For the sticker price at SJU, you can get arguably a much better eduaction at the University of Texas or Texas A&M for half the cost... and probably graduate in 4 yrs.
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Wouldn't disagree. That said, and as you are aware, it is very difficult to get into Texas and A&M if you are an out of state student. Both are excellent institutions.

Great places to attend for those qualified.
 
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