jumbo_peanuts
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Guys, I know a lot of people are down on Lavin and this program after this season, but we really need to keep things in perspective. It is only his 3rd year here, and he has faced some situations that no other coach that I can remember has had to go through…whether it was suspensions, health, youth, decommits, ineligibility, etc. It may sound like nothing but excuses, but it’s the truth of what actually happened.
In his first year we finished 21-12 and made the Big Dance. Not bad considering it was his first time coaching in 7years, and it was coming off of what probably was the worst 10yr stretch in our programs history. He won with a group of players that the previous coach could not win with.
His 2nd year, things were a little rough. That season we had to do a complete roster makeover. What did Lavin do? He brought in one of the best recruiting classes in the country. But because of that, we were the young team in the entire country. I know people on this board don’t like to hear that excuse, but it’s the truth. You can say that programs like Kentucky win with youth all the time, but their youth is made up of one-and-done players that are 1st round draft picks. Sorry but our talent isn’t quite there yet. We also had some players ruled ineligible and/or transfer. Oh yeah, there was also the fact that Coach Lavin missed the entire year because he was battling cancer. I have never had cancer, so I am not even going to try to imagine the difficulties of trying to balance your health and coaching responsibilities. We finished that year 13-19, but we also played that year without our head coach, and by the end of the year were starting 5 freshman and only going 6 deep total.
Then there is this year. We have been up and down all year long. But once again, we are still a young team that hasn’t had a complete roster the entire year. Our ‘best’ player has been suspended on 2 different occasions. We had to deal with eligibility issues again. Lavin was out for a little bit due to the health issues with his father. Can’t blame him for that. We also lost our X’s and O’s coach in Mike Dunlap. I’m guessing that Lavin wasn’t prepared for that, but who would be? I doubt that during the interview process Dunlap was like, “Well Steve, I would love to join your staff, but I’m done as soon as I get a better offer.”
Right now we are 16-15, and hopefully will get an NIT bid. Is it where we should be? Not, but it’s pretty much on par with where this board expected us to be this year. You take away a few bad losses early in the season, and we are around 18-19 wins, which is what we expected.
What are pple saying are our biggest issues? No center, no shooters, no PG. Well we thought we had our centers in Norvelle Pelle, Ricardo Gathers, and Sanchez. Two of those three never made it to campus, and the other was ruled ineligible (and don’t forget about Gift too). Regarding shooters, I’ll be honest, this team can’t shoot the ball. Our best shooting threat was suspended and has had issues all season, and our only other shooter (Marco) averaged about 5-6mins/game up until the last 10. The last issue is our lack of PG. Well we thought we had our PG last year in Nurideen Lindsey. He transferred mid season, forcing Harrison and Greene to play out of position. Now we have Branch. It’s hard to judge him, considering he has played in less than 50% of our games this year. Time will tell on him.
And just to keep things in perspective more, here are the records of 3 other coaches during their first 3 years:
Coach K – First 3yrs at Duke: 17-13, 10-17, 11-17.
Jay Wright – First 3yrs at Nova: 19-13, 15-16, 18-17.
Jim Calhoun – First 3yrs at Pukon: 9-19, 20-14, 18-13.
Where would those programs be right now if they would have given up on their coaches after 3 sub-par seasons?
Let’s not give up on Lavin quite yet!!! I believe in him and this program. Go Johnnies!!
In his first year we finished 21-12 and made the Big Dance. Not bad considering it was his first time coaching in 7years, and it was coming off of what probably was the worst 10yr stretch in our programs history. He won with a group of players that the previous coach could not win with.
His 2nd year, things were a little rough. That season we had to do a complete roster makeover. What did Lavin do? He brought in one of the best recruiting classes in the country. But because of that, we were the young team in the entire country. I know people on this board don’t like to hear that excuse, but it’s the truth. You can say that programs like Kentucky win with youth all the time, but their youth is made up of one-and-done players that are 1st round draft picks. Sorry but our talent isn’t quite there yet. We also had some players ruled ineligible and/or transfer. Oh yeah, there was also the fact that Coach Lavin missed the entire year because he was battling cancer. I have never had cancer, so I am not even going to try to imagine the difficulties of trying to balance your health and coaching responsibilities. We finished that year 13-19, but we also played that year without our head coach, and by the end of the year were starting 5 freshman and only going 6 deep total.
Then there is this year. We have been up and down all year long. But once again, we are still a young team that hasn’t had a complete roster the entire year. Our ‘best’ player has been suspended on 2 different occasions. We had to deal with eligibility issues again. Lavin was out for a little bit due to the health issues with his father. Can’t blame him for that. We also lost our X’s and O’s coach in Mike Dunlap. I’m guessing that Lavin wasn’t prepared for that, but who would be? I doubt that during the interview process Dunlap was like, “Well Steve, I would love to join your staff, but I’m done as soon as I get a better offer.”
Right now we are 16-15, and hopefully will get an NIT bid. Is it where we should be? Not, but it’s pretty much on par with where this board expected us to be this year. You take away a few bad losses early in the season, and we are around 18-19 wins, which is what we expected.
What are pple saying are our biggest issues? No center, no shooters, no PG. Well we thought we had our centers in Norvelle Pelle, Ricardo Gathers, and Sanchez. Two of those three never made it to campus, and the other was ruled ineligible (and don’t forget about Gift too). Regarding shooters, I’ll be honest, this team can’t shoot the ball. Our best shooting threat was suspended and has had issues all season, and our only other shooter (Marco) averaged about 5-6mins/game up until the last 10. The last issue is our lack of PG. Well we thought we had our PG last year in Nurideen Lindsey. He transferred mid season, forcing Harrison and Greene to play out of position. Now we have Branch. It’s hard to judge him, considering he has played in less than 50% of our games this year. Time will tell on him.
And just to keep things in perspective more, here are the records of 3 other coaches during their first 3 years:
Coach K – First 3yrs at Duke: 17-13, 10-17, 11-17.
Jay Wright – First 3yrs at Nova: 19-13, 15-16, 18-17.
Jim Calhoun – First 3yrs at Pukon: 9-19, 20-14, 18-13.
Where would those programs be right now if they would have given up on their coaches after 3 sub-par seasons?
Let’s not give up on Lavin quite yet!!! I believe in him and this program. Go Johnnies!!