Kadary

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Since I don't think I can go many more games without saying some stuff about Kadary - who is beginning to threaten RJ Luis as most-polarizing Johnnie - here it is.

No, he isn't a good shooter from range. Point conceded.

Yes, he has had some uncharacteristic turnovers and missed FTs early in the season. Past performance says those won't be long-term issues.

No, he isn't fast and athletic like (for example) RJ Luis or Deivon Smith

Now that we have that out of the way: he is a tremendous floor presence - we haven't had a player who sees the floor the way he does since Ron Artest. He's a tremendous passer, which is paired with a willingness to use that ability. He has the ability to get the rim almost at will - although he uses it in the flow of the game or when he believes its necessary for the team to win, as opposed to (for example) RJ Luis who thinks the time to shoot is pretty much any time he has the ball. He's a guard who will probably finish the season in the top-2 on the team in rebounds per game. And he's a plus defender against 4 and if needed 5 positions on the floor.

Now I understand that many of those qualities are underappreciated or unappreciated by folks who think the game is about dunks and 3 pointers. But if you appreciate the game of basketball in a form other than NBA-style dunk-and-3, then you also appreciate Kadary. If you don't, then you don't.

Last note: there's no argument that his on-court demeanor is ... different. What that has to do with his game or his production or his desire to win, I have no idea. And tbh I far prefer it to the surliness of (say) Omar Cook or Zendon Hamilton. My personal preference is for players who play with the joy of a Marcus Hatten or a Simeon Wilcher, but I have no problem with Kadary whatsoever.

So that's my interpretation of the Kadary Rorschach Test.
 
That may be your take on Kadary which is what the thread is about but I noticed you were still able to get 2 unsolicited shoots in on Luis. If he shoots every time he touches the ball how did he ring up 7 assists against New Mexico? He also has had a very good FG % for St. John’s or do you have a problem with that too?
 
That may be your take on Kadary which is what the thread is about but I noticed you were still able to get 2 unsolicited shots in on Luis. If he shots every time he touches the ball how did he ring up 7 assists against New Mexico? He also has had a very good FG % for St. John’s or do you have a problem with that too?
He makes my eyes hurt. He's a tremendous athlete. He does some wonderful things on the basketball court.

He also suffers from a mild-to-moderate case of Daniss Jenkins syndrome (a bad shot for me is better than a good shot for anyone else, so I will pass if I have to but I really would rather not) and his basketball IQ is in the conversation for lowest I have ever seen.

HOWEVER he has definitely made a lot of progress this season and I give him full credit for the effort he is clearly making. Hopefully he will keep it up and continue to develop the court judgment to match his ability.

But if you could take Kadary's brain and put in RJ's body, what a basketball player that would be!
 
I was told from a young age if you have nothing nice to say then don't say anything. I'm subscribing to that theory with this thread. Polarizing doesn't do it justice IMO.
 
He makes my eyes hurt. He's a tremendous athlete. He does some wonderful things on the basketball court.

He also suffers from a mild-to-moderate case of Daniss Jenkins syndrome (a bad shot for me is better than a good shot for anyone else, so I will pass if I have to but I really would rather not) and his basketball IQ is in the conversation for lowest I have ever seen.

HOWEVER he has definitely made a lot of progress this season and I give him full credit for the effort he is clearly making. Hopefully he will keep it up and continue to develop the court judgment to match his ability.

But if you could take Kadary's brain and put in RJ's body, what a basketball player that would be!
I think it's time to stop bashing RJ. He is far and away the most talented player on our team and is playing way smarter this year so far. The announcer said something earlier that I've been thinking for a while. He is a bit reminiscent of Dr. J the way he glides around the court. I am a big fan.
 
I think it's time to stop bashing RJ. He is far and away the most talented player on our team and is playing way smarter this year so far. The announcer said something earlier that I've been thinking for a while. He is a bit reminiscent of Dr. J the way he glides around the court. I am a big fan.
Feel free to go start an RJ thread (actually I think there is one, though there's probably a Kadary one also but I was too lazy to dig it up) and get off my lawn I mean my Kadary thread. 🤪🤣

Then Eric can bet on which thread will have a higher page count. And Mug will pick the wrong one and lose money.

Anyway in fairness I don't think I've ever been "an RJ basher." My decidedly minority view has been that he does some incredible things and he also does some things that make me want to strangle him. I have been of the view that if anyone can get him to do more of the former and fewer of the latter it's PItino and that the best decision he could have made was to come back., which he did. And there are signs of progress - in time I may even get over the case of PTSD I got from watching him last year.
 
I do think if you watch Kadary in person, you definitely see a competitor. He gets frustrated when teammates miss his passes or aren’t on the same page.
I get frustrated when talented players drive the lane thinking they are invincible and there is nobody guarding/collapsing on them.
I get frustrated when talented players throw one handed bounce passes into the key in the last 5 minutes of a game.

He's got some Robinson Cano in him. Has the coasting look. Then again Harkless had that too
 
Good player. Glad we have him. Makes his teammates better. Very good in and around the paint. Doesnt shoot well from the outside or the free throw line.

He is who he is. Hes a nice piece of this team.

He is not an all american. He is not an nba talent. And that is ok.
 
I get frustrated when talented players drive the lane thinking they are invincible and there is nobody guarding/collapsing on them.
I get frustrated when talented players throw one handed bounce passes into the key in the last 5 minutes of a game.

He's got some Robinson Cano in him. Has the coasting look. Then again Harkless had that too
Very much so. Has always had that since I first saw him at Cuse. Watched him a bit more at Hall, especially last year when he was playing so well and they were having a solid conference season. It’s his personality.
 
I guess I didn't watch enough Seton Hall games in recent years. But did he always look like he was moving in slow motion while the rest of the game is at a different speed??
 
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