Josiah Turner to turn pro

Wow! I think he's taking a big risk, as I feel he needs to better hone his game and mature. Hopefully, it works out for him.
 
Wow! I think he's taking a big risk, as I feel he needs to better hone his game and mature. Hopefully, it works out for him.
 

I think Josiah unfortunately is doing the right thing. There are some kids just not cut out for school. He is one of them and pro in Europe or NBDL might be the best option for him.
 
 If you think about it from a purely training and practicing point of view, it makes sense in some ways. Especially if he lands in the D-league, or with a solid coach overseas.

Is Larry Brown's staff at SMU any better than the coaches in the D-league? Probably not. Plus, half a college coaching staff is hired to recruit, for the D-league all they are hiring are player development coaches.

And then you have the NCAA's practice restrictions. If you want to get the most time in the gym with your coach; the NCAA can be prohibitive. Only 3 hours of organized practice a day (or something close to that), and severe restrictions on how much the coaches can work with you in the off-season.

D-league and Euro guys can practice all they want. Now, there might be a downside in terms of showcasing yourself in meaningful games. I'd rather play a big east schedule than a d-league or European league schedule.

But - there are reasons why it could work out, if you know you don't want to be in school.
 
 Is Larry Brown's staff at SMU any better than the coaches in the D-league? Probably not. Plus, half a college coaching staff is hired to recruit, for the D-league all they are hiring are player development coaches.
 

Brown is a hall of fame coach. He may be a dbag who gets on players too much but I'd bet he's better than every D league coach. Europe is the way to go for this kid, it may keep him off nba radars but he will make more and face better competition.
 
 Is Larry Brown's staff at SMU any better than the coaches in the D-league? Probably not. Plus, half a college coaching staff is hired to recruit, for the D-league all they are hiring are player development coaches.
 

Brown is a hall of fame coach. He may be a dbag who gets on players too much but I'd bet he's better than every D league coach. Europe is the way to go for this kid, it may keep him off nba radars but he will make more and face better competition.
 

This season, since the first game was played, only 5 players were brought onto NBA teams from minor leagues around the world, other than the NBDL. From the NBDL, there were 115 call-ups to the dance, per the League's transaction records: Some players were called up multiple times - but doing a manual count, I came up with 56 individual players going up from the D-League to the Dance. At the end of the 2001 season, there were 103 former NBDL players on the final day rosters. (Sorry, don't havea the total for this eason yet). http://www.nba.com/dleague/dleague/transactions.html

The money is better overseas, but I sincerely doubt the talent level they'll face is nearly as good on a consistent basis - and the coaching not even close. (Go to this link for a list of the NBDL Coaches who've ALSO gotten the call up to the NBA: http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/coaching_callups.html

If they're doing this for the quick bucks, Go overseas. If they're doing it to get to the NBA, go to the D-League. The overseas money will still be there if you find you're NOT NBA-Level. They're paying top dollar overseas for guys with good D-League success.
 
 Is Larry Brown's staff at SMU any better than the coaches in the D-league? Probably not. Plus, half a college coaching staff is hired to recruit, for the D-league all they are hiring are player development coaches.
 

Brown is a hall of fame coach. He may be a dbag who gets on players too much but I'd bet he's better than every D league coach. Europe is the way to go for this kid, it may keep him off nba radars but he will make more and face better competition.
 

This season, since the first game was played, only 5 players were brought onto NBA teams from minor leagues around the world, other than the NBDL. From the NBDL, there were 115 call-ups to the dance, per the League's transaction records: Some players were called up multiple times - but doing a manual count, I came up with 56 individual players going up from the D-League to the Dance. At the end of the 2001 season, there were 103 former NBDL players on the final day rosters. (Sorry, don't havea the total for this eason yet). http://www.nba.com/dleague/dleague/transactions.html

The money is better overseas, but I sincerely doubt the talent level they'll face is nearly as good on a consistent basis - and the coaching not even close. (Go to this link for a list of the NBDL Coaches who've ALSO gotten the call up to the NBA: http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/coaching_callups.html

If they're doing this for the quick bucks, Go overseas. If they're doing it to get to the NBA, go to the D-League. The overseas money will still be there if you find you're NOT NBA-Level. They're paying top dollar overseas for guys with good D-League success.
 

Cr, your stats indicate that the NBDL is a real option for kids who college is not an option or those who don't want to go to college to reach the NBA.
 
D-League is a good option but he has to stay there the entire season correct? He is too young to be called up. 
 
I don't think its that he's too young, because he is already a year away from his high school graduation. The hold-up for him going to the NBA is that he didn't enter the draft this year. I believe that is what makes him ineligible to play in the league this year. Talent and maturity would surely have been a hold-up regardless. After he enters the draft next year and either gets drafted or not he will be eligible to sign with an NBA team.  
 
I wonder what the stats are for baseball. Anyone have any info on that? Actually what the kid is doing should be happening a lot more. The universities will never police themselves so the idea of a real salary right out of HS should be a fairly easy sell. How Major League baseball can afford to run minor league teams and the NBA can't make a real go of it with a fraction of the operating costs eludes me. Europe and the colleges are cleaning up on the situation while the NBA passes on an opportunity to build up their fan base. Just greed all around and a bunch of kids being exploited.
 
 Is Larry Brown's staff at SMU any better than the coaches in the D-league? Probably not. Plus, half a college coaching staff is hired to recruit, for the D-league all they are hiring are player development coaches.
 

Brown is a hall of fame coach. He may be a dbag who gets on players too much but I'd bet he's better than every D league coach. Europe is the way to go for this kid, it may keep him off nba radars but he will make more and face better competition.
 

This season, since the first game was played, only 5 players were brought onto NBA teams from minor leagues around the world, other than the NBDL. From the NBDL, there were 115 call-ups to the dance, per the League's transaction records: Some players were called up multiple times - but doing a manual count, I came up with 56 individual players going up from the D-League to the Dance. At the end of the 2001 season, there were 103 former NBDL players on the final day rosters. (Sorry, don't havea the total for this eason yet). http://www.nba.com/dleague/dleague/transactions.html

The money is better overseas, but I sincerely doubt the talent level they'll face is nearly as good on a consistent basis - and the coaching not even close. (Go to this link for a list of the NBDL Coaches who've ALSO gotten the call up to the NBA: http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/coaching_callups.html

If they're doing this for the quick bucks, Go overseas. If they're doing it to get to the NBA, go to the D-League. The overseas money will still be there if you find you're NOT NBA-Level. They're paying top dollar overseas for guys with good D-League success.
 

There is a very simple explanation for all those "call ups." Teams can bring these players up whenever they want without having to worry about buying out contracts from professional teams in Europe. You really can't compare the D league to the Spanish, Greek, Italian, Russian league. The level of play and competition is much higher out there.
 
Also teams send guys to D league who have alsready made the team such as guys not getting PT at end of bench (and all the more with rosters up from 12 to 15 last few years) or coming back from injury (at least the young players) so the numbers crgreen cited may be skewed. 
 
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