Jordan/Obekpa NBA Draft Potential This Year

Jordan isn't ready and I don't think he will be that high on the draft board until he matures a bit both with his game and mentally on the court. He's got all the tools but is still raw and needs to show better decision making as well as more consistent production.

Obekpa is the nation's leading shot blocker almost every year. He finally became a beast of a rebounder this year. I can certainly see him leaving even though his offensive game still needs to take leaps like his rebounding has. I could see both leaving, but both are clearly better this season. Both would be served better after another year. Neither is a clear pick like Harkless was at this point.
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Nice to see you posting.
 
http://redmen.com/forum/4-redmentalk/17958-two-words-for-mo-harkless
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Ouch marillac
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http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=2869.480

Marillac was the first to label Moe a lottery pick and one-and-done. Marillac's true feelings on Moe before he ever played a game:

10-23-2011: "Can you say first round pick?"
Quote from: Celtics11 on October 23, 2011, 11:47:32 AM
First round pick.

Hahaha

With his jumper and versatility Moe looks like a lock for the lottery if he is in fact 6'8.5.

11-2-2011
"I agree. I think he stays but this kid has lottery written all over him. "

Marillac has come forward in the past explaining why he points out players faults publicly when they want to declare early. They get their heads filled with so much garbage and promises and Marillac is naive enough to think they or someone close to them will see it and it will end their compliment party. You want Marillac's true opinion of a player's pro prospectus...ask him early or via PM. After the rumors about jumping early are out....you will not get much love from Marillac.
 
Marillac is hijacking No Hope's third-person reference gig.

Lawmanfan thinks it suits No Hope better.

Come back, No Hope!
 
http://redmen.com/forum/4-redmentalk/17958-two-words-for-mo-harkless
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Ouch marillac
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http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=2869.480

Marillac was the first to label Moe a lottery pick and one-and-done. Marillac's true feelings on Moe before he ever played a game:

10-23-2011: "Can you say first round pick?"
Quote from: Celtics11 on October 23, 2011, 11:47:32 AM
First round pick.

Hahaha

With his jumper and versatility Moe looks like a lock for the lottery if he is in fact 6'8.5.

11-2-2011
"I agree. I think he stays but this kid has lottery written all over him. "

Marillac has come forward in the past explaining why he points out players faults publicly when they want to declare early. They get their heads filled with so much garbage and promises and Marillac is naive enough to think they or someone close to them will see it and it will end their compliment party. You want Marillac's true opinion of a player's pro prospectus...ask him early or via PM. After the rumors about jumping early are out....you will not get much love from Marillac.
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You know I love you marillac but you cant have it both ways. I remember a few posts of the "no way he leaves before junior year" ilk.
 
http://redmen.com/forum/4-redmentalk/17958-two-words-for-mo-harkless
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Ouch marillac
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http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=2869.480

Marillac was the first to label Moe a lottery pick and one-and-done. Marillac's true feelings on Moe before he ever played a game:

10-23-2011: "Can you say first round pick?"
Quote from: Celtics11 on October 23, 2011, 11:47:32 AM
First round pick.

Hahaha

With his jumper and versatility Moe looks like a lock for the lottery if he is in fact 6'8.5.

11-2-2011
"I agree. I think he stays but this kid has lottery written all over him. "

Marillac has come forward in the past explaining why he points out players faults publicly when they want to declare early. They get their heads filled with so much garbage and promises and Marillac is naive enough to think they or someone close to them will see it and it will end their compliment party. You want Marillac's true opinion of a player's pro prospectus...ask him early or via PM. After the rumors about jumping early are out....you will not get much love from Marillac.
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You know I love you marillac but you cant have it both ways. I remember a few posts of the "no way he leaves before junior year" ilk.
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Absolutely! It had nothing to do with his talent or ability, though. I was shocked he left before his soph season. He was a smart and popular kid playing in his home city. The thing is you just don't understand a kid's financial situation.
I've posted a few times prior that Omar Cook told me to my face a week before he declared that he was staying for is soph season. It was unsolicited and we were playing video games in (then) O'Conner Hall. He said he was hearing he was a lottery pick and would be a fool to give that up. These kids hear garbage all day long from people who don't have their best interests at heart.

In the end,he probably would have been better off staying another year. Maybe he could have been a top 5 pick in 2013. Then again, maybe he would have slipped to the second round. But I was the first person to post about him being a first rounder or lottery talent.
 
I have followed SJU for now close to 60 years. I'm not great at it but I have a sense of who can make a payday and who can't. Jordan, can't right now; he needs a year or two. Look what time has done for Di, Green, and Porter. All three will make a payday somewhere as a result of perseverance commitment and maturity.. Jordan has the ability to be much better than them, and they h are super good. Chris is a Europe recruit right now bur he has NBA written all over him 2 years from now. He is developing very well.
How well the players do in their careers no longer makes a difference to me as a fan; but, as a Grandpa, I worry about the kids. Their level of success depends upon their ability,, their rep, and their presence as a man. Look what a great job Di has worked at to become a complete, , admirable man. How thoroughly you develop those elements is matter of time , commitment , and maturity .Both Chris and Rasheed need more time to develop.
I got mine so I shouldn't concern myself with the next guy but , WE ARE ST.JOHNS , and we owe it to the youngsters following us to root for their good judgment. .
 
I have followed SJU for now close to 60 years. I'm not great at it but I have a sense of who can make a payday and who can't. Jordan, can't right now; he needs a year or two. Look what time has done for Di, Green, and Porter. All three will make a payday somewhere as a result of perseverance commitment and maturity.. Jordan has the ability to be much better than them, and they h are super good. Chris is a Europe recruit right now bur he has NBA written all over him 2 years from now. He is developing very well.
How well the players do in their careers no longer makes a difference to me as a fan; but, as a Grandpa, I worry about the kids. Their level of success depends upon their ability,, their rep, and their presence as a man. Look what a great job Di has worked at to become a complete, , admirable man. How thoroughly you develop those elements is matter of time , commitment , and maturity .Both Chris and Rasheed need more time to develop.
I got mine so I shouldn't concern myself with the next guy but , WE ARE ST.JOHNS , and we owe it to the youngsters following us to root for their good judgment. .
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Yes, all 3 will make a payday somewhere......but is 25K a year in the dleague the payday they want?
 
You don't play in the D League for money, you do it for opportunity. If you can't make an NBA roster and you want money up front you go overseas. Besides better pay there are other multipliers as far as tax benefits, living expenses paid, etc...
 
You don't play in the D League for money, you do it for opportunity. If you can't make an NBA roster and you want money up front you go overseas. Besides better pay there are other multipliers as far as tax benefits, living expenses paid, etc...
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If you really want opportunity -- and provided you have NBA potential -- spend the extra year or two in college and develop your game, your body, and your chances of being drafted.
 
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