Jets get Best QB in Draft
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[quote="bamafan" post=282899]Agree IMHO but afraid he may never realize his full potential because he is a Jet and when does that ever work out since Joe Willie Namath?[/quote]
Ah, let’s hope their atrocious luck has ended at least for this pick. Darnold was the QB whom Dave Gettleman labeled the best in the draft and the only one worthy of a top pick.
So looking good so far.
Ah, let’s hope their atrocious luck has ended at least for this pick. Darnold was the QB whom Dave Gettleman labeled the best in the draft and the only one worthy of a top pick.
So looking good so far.
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[quote="Chicago Days" post=282900][quote="bamafan" post=282899]Agree IMHO but afraid he may never realize his full potential because he is a Jet and when does that ever work out since Joe Willie Namath?[/quote]
Ah, let’s hope their atrocious luck has ended at least for this pick. Darnold was the QB whom Dave Gettleman labeled the best in the draft and the only one worthy of a top pick.
So looking good so far.[/quote]
Giants should have taken Darnold as although not as good as Barkley there are good RBs left for second round like LSU's Guice and USC's Jones, Georgia's Chubb.
Ah, let’s hope their atrocious luck has ended at least for this pick. Darnold was the QB whom Dave Gettleman labeled the best in the draft and the only one worthy of a top pick.
So looking good so far.[/quote]
Giants should have taken Darnold as although not as good as Barkley there are good RBs left for second round like LSU's Guice and USC's Jones, Georgia's Chubb.
[quote="bamafan" post=282899]Agree IMHO but afraid he may never realize his full potential because he is a Jet and when does that ever work out since Joe Willie Namath?[/quote]
Pennington until he got hurt. While certainly no Elway, Kelly or Marino, O’Brien wasn’t bad.
Pennington until he got hurt. While certainly no Elway, Kelly or Marino, O’Brien wasn’t bad.
JohnnyFever
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Love the pick. I think he is the best QB of the draft. Mayfield is too small and that also presents a durability issue. Also questionable maturity. Allen played at a bad school against bad competition and he's raw and inaccurate. Rosen was my 2nd choice but he already has durability issues which is alarming. Darnold has the size, the arm, the accuracy, and the temperament to succeed in the NFL. He just needs to protect the ball better which I think is the easiest fix a QB can make.
That being said, as a lifelong Jets fan I can't help but look at him as a USC QB picked in the first round and not think of all the busts. Being a Jets fan you just expect every QB to be a bust because we really don't know anything different. Chad Pennington was the closest we got to having a real franchise QB in his prime and he was made of glass and couldn't throw deep.
We now need to load up on offensive weapons for him. Drafting nothing but defense in the 1st round for nearly a decade straight was the stupidest approach to building a team I can possibly think of. It just doesn't work. In today's NFL, it's very clear what you need to compete for SB's every year: a high IQ franchise QB who is more of a pocket passer, a few pro-bowl caliber offensive weapons, and at worst a solid defense. A big reliable TE is a major help too (something else we never have). It's time to balance the team and stop being defense only. If you want to win rings you need to score points. How many times do the Jets kick FG's instead of score TD's? Has to be among the worst ratios in the NFL. Here's to hoping that maybe...just maybe our bad luck is over.
That being said, as a lifelong Jets fan I can't help but look at him as a USC QB picked in the first round and not think of all the busts. Being a Jets fan you just expect every QB to be a bust because we really don't know anything different. Chad Pennington was the closest we got to having a real franchise QB in his prime and he was made of glass and couldn't throw deep.
We now need to load up on offensive weapons for him. Drafting nothing but defense in the 1st round for nearly a decade straight was the stupidest approach to building a team I can possibly think of. It just doesn't work. In today's NFL, it's very clear what you need to compete for SB's every year: a high IQ franchise QB who is more of a pocket passer, a few pro-bowl caliber offensive weapons, and at worst a solid defense. A big reliable TE is a major help too (something else we never have). It's time to balance the team and stop being defense only. If you want to win rings you need to score points. How many times do the Jets kick FG's instead of score TD's? Has to be among the worst ratios in the NFL. Here's to hoping that maybe...just maybe our bad luck is over.
[quote="SJU85" post=282902][quote="bamafan" post=282899]Agree IMHO but afraid he may never realize his full potential because he is a Jet and when does that ever work out since Joe Willie Namath?[/quote]
Pennington until he got hurt. While certainly no Elway, Kelly or Marino, O’Brien wasn’t bad.[/quote]
Yes those guys were pretty good QBs but Jets didn't draft Darnold at number 3 overall to be one of those guys and let's not forget that while the Jets were far from the only team to F up they passed on Marino to draft O'brien.
Pennington until he got hurt. While certainly no Elway, Kelly or Marino, O’Brien wasn’t bad.[/quote]
Yes those guys were pretty good QBs but Jets didn't draft Darnold at number 3 overall to be one of those guys and let's not forget that while the Jets were far from the only team to F up they passed on Marino to draft O'brien.
[quote="bamafan" post=282918][quote="SJU85" post=282902][quote="bamafan" post=282899]Agree IMHO but afraid he may never realize his full potential because he is a Jet and when does that ever work out since Joe Willie Namath?[/quote]
Pennington until he got hurt. While certainly no Elway, Kelly or Marino, O’Brien wasn’t bad.[/quote]
Yes those guys were pretty good QBs but Jets didn't draft Darnold at number 3 overall to be one of those guys and let's not forget that while the Jets were far from the only team to F up they passed on Marino to draft O'brien.[/quote]
You are correct that Darnold wasn't drafted at No. 3 to be one of those guys, but none of those guys were drafted that high. Only Denver (who traded to get him) with Elway (1st Pick) and the Bills with Kelly (14th Pick) can say they didn't screw up. Others who had a shot at Marino (27th Pick) besides the Jets who took O'Brien (24th Pick) were the Chiefs with Blackledge (7th Pick) and the Patriots with Eason (15th Pick). Eason spent his last year in the Pros as O'Brien's backup with the Jets.
O'Brien led the Jets to the playoffs a few times and was the top rated passer one season. No he wasn't the Hall of Fame QB that Elway, Kelly and Marino turned out to be, but he was a lot better than what he gets credit for.
Don't get me wrong though, I was pissed then and still am about that draft.
Pennington until he got hurt. While certainly no Elway, Kelly or Marino, O’Brien wasn’t bad.[/quote]
Yes those guys were pretty good QBs but Jets didn't draft Darnold at number 3 overall to be one of those guys and let's not forget that while the Jets were far from the only team to F up they passed on Marino to draft O'brien.[/quote]
You are correct that Darnold wasn't drafted at No. 3 to be one of those guys, but none of those guys were drafted that high. Only Denver (who traded to get him) with Elway (1st Pick) and the Bills with Kelly (14th Pick) can say they didn't screw up. Others who had a shot at Marino (27th Pick) besides the Jets who took O'Brien (24th Pick) were the Chiefs with Blackledge (7th Pick) and the Patriots with Eason (15th Pick). Eason spent his last year in the Pros as O'Brien's backup with the Jets.
O'Brien led the Jets to the playoffs a few times and was the top rated passer one season. No he wasn't the Hall of Fame QB that Elway, Kelly and Marino turned out to be, but he was a lot better than what he gets credit for.
Don't get me wrong though, I was pissed then and still am about that draft.
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=282905]Love the pick. I think he is the best QB of the draft. Mayfield is too small and that also presents a durability issue. Also questionable maturity. Allen played at a bad school against bad competition and he's raw and inaccurate. Rosen was my 2nd choice but he already has durability issues which is alarming. Darnold has the size, the arm, the accuracy, and the temperament to succeed in the NFL. He just needs to protect the ball better which I think is the easiest fix a QB can make.
We picked the guy I wanted. Watching it with my son, when the Browns went for Mayfield, I said "yes, we get Darnold the guy I wanted." He wanted them to take Rosen and was disappointed that I turned out to be right. More importantly, let's hope the Jets turned out to be right.
That being said, as a lifelong Jets fan I can't help but look at him as a USC QB picked in the first round and not think of all the busts. Being a Jets fan you just expect every QB to be a bust because we really don't know anything different. Chad Pennington was the closest we got to having a real franchise QB in his prime and he was made of glass and couldn't throw deep.
We now need to load up on offensive weapons for him. Drafting nothing but defense in the 1st round for nearly a decade straight was the stupidest approach to building a team I can possibly think of. It just doesn't work. In today's NFL, it's very clear what you need to compete for SB's every year: a high IQ franchise QB who is more of a pocket passer, a few pro-bowl caliber offensive weapons, and at worst a solid defense. A big reliable TE is a major help too (something else we never have). It's time to balance the team and stop being defense only. If you want to win rings you need to score points. How many times do the Jets kick FG's instead of score TD's? Has to be among the worst ratios in the NFL. Here's to hoping that maybe...just maybe our bad luck is over.[/quote]
We picked the guy I wanted. Watching it with my son, when the Browns went for Mayfield, I said "yes, we get Darnold the guy I wanted." He wanted them to take Rosen and was disappointed that I turned out to be right. More importantly, let's hope the Jets turned out to be right.
That being said, as a lifelong Jets fan I can't help but look at him as a USC QB picked in the first round and not think of all the busts. Being a Jets fan you just expect every QB to be a bust because we really don't know anything different. Chad Pennington was the closest we got to having a real franchise QB in his prime and he was made of glass and couldn't throw deep.
We now need to load up on offensive weapons for him. Drafting nothing but defense in the 1st round for nearly a decade straight was the stupidest approach to building a team I can possibly think of. It just doesn't work. In today's NFL, it's very clear what you need to compete for SB's every year: a high IQ franchise QB who is more of a pocket passer, a few pro-bowl caliber offensive weapons, and at worst a solid defense. A big reliable TE is a major help too (something else we never have). It's time to balance the team and stop being defense only. If you want to win rings you need to score points. How many times do the Jets kick FG's instead of score TD's? Has to be among the worst ratios in the NFL. Here's to hoping that maybe...just maybe our bad luck is over.[/quote]
redfan259999888
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[quote="bamafan" post=282901][quote="Chicago Days" post=282900][quote="bamafan" post=282899]Agree IMHO but afraid he may never realize his full potential because he is a Jet and when does that ever work out since Joe Willie Namath?[/quote]
Ah, let’s hope their atrocious luck has ended at least for this pick. Darnold was the QB whom Dave Gettleman labeled the best in the draft and the only one worthy of a top pick.
So looking good so far.[/quote]
Giants should have taken Darnold as although not as good as Barkley there are good RBs left for second round like LSU's Guice and USC's Jones, Georgia's Chubb.[/quote]
Why pick a QB for the future when we already have our future QB.
Ah, let’s hope their atrocious luck has ended at least for this pick. Darnold was the QB whom Dave Gettleman labeled the best in the draft and the only one worthy of a top pick.
So looking good so far.[/quote]
Giants should have taken Darnold as although not as good as Barkley there are good RBs left for second round like LSU's Guice and USC's Jones, Georgia's Chubb.[/quote]
Why pick a QB for the future when we already have our future QB.
Dan V
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[quote="L J S A" post=282929]Unfortunately, I don't think Darnold ever turns out to be great.[/quote]Thats how I felt going in to the draft unfortunately. I feel like none of these QBs will end up great. Its a weak QB class imo. Although I think Lamar Jackson is a good fit in Baltimore. We just have to hope Darnold lives up to the hype (his slow throwing motion is my biggest concern). I think Rosen has a chance to be good but hes fragile, too risky at 3. Allen is probably a bust. Cleveland absolutely blew it big time, its honestly laughable. Forget the fact that they took Mayfield; they with out a doubt could have gotten him at 4 is the reason why I think it was so dumb. Should of took Bradley Chubb at 1 if you were dead set on Mayfield, nobody was taking him in the top 3 its insane. The fans were horrified haha. Even Barkley would have been a better pick at 1 (although RBs are like old school centers they dont get drafted high anymore or even in the 1st round it seems). In the end the Jets made the right pick with Darnold, he's considered the best QB in the draft they had to take him. All the other guys carry too much risk. In any sport with a draft if the projected top pick falls to you at 3 you take him and ask questions later. He also has McCown to show him the ropes and give him some competition to keep him sharp. Lets hope the curse ends with him, id say its probably a 50/50 chance he is a pro bowl level player or a bust.
I agree that this is not a super strong group of quarterbacks. I still think Mayfield and Allen give you the most downside risk. I think Rosen will be better then expected if he can keep his mouth shut and learn to throw the ball away. He played on a UCLA team that had no running game and not a lot of talent on offense in general.
I believe Darnold will be the best of the bunch . I would be surprised if he is not a top ten quarterback in a few seasons. The Jets will definitely need to add some weapons on offense. Hopefully the fans and media will give him a chance to develop.
I believe Darnold will be the best of the bunch . I would be surprised if he is not a top ten quarterback in a few seasons. The Jets will definitely need to add some weapons on offense. Hopefully the fans and media will give him a chance to develop.
