beast of the east
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http://yahoo.thepostgame.com/blog/h...ball-coach-suspended-after-his-team-won-161-2
What do you guys think?
I think - classless
What do you guys think?
I think - classless
Girls coach suspended for 161-2 victory
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beast of the east
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In girls varsity basketball, on occasion you encounter this type of lopsided competition, even in conference. Most coaches exercise considerable restraint, often starting the end of the bench, not pressing, and when the lead extends to embarrassing, run longer possessions that end in an outside shot, not a layup. You don't have to humiliate an opponent in a situation like that, but having seen the since closed St. Joseph's Academy play Sacred Heart for 4 years, there are ways to avoid scores like this.
I've seen youth team coaches press the entire game, or press as long as rules allowed it, then used a half court trap the rest of the way. Then you watch idiot parents whoop it up as their kids score layup after layup against vastly inferior competition.
At higher levels you hear coaches say, "The kids on the bench came in you can't expect them not to play hard." It's all a load. In these gigantic blowouts even the bench players are much better than starters on the opposition, and they aren't demonstrating anything by stealing, scoring, and blocking. There are inevitable disparities in talent, even in hs league competition, and when that happens, coaches of the winning teams should just work on things that won't run the score to embarrassing levels.
I've seen youth team coaches press the entire game, or press as long as rules allowed it, then used a half court trap the rest of the way. Then you watch idiot parents whoop it up as their kids score layup after layup against vastly inferior competition.
At higher levels you hear coaches say, "The kids on the bench came in you can't expect them not to play hard." It's all a load. In these gigantic blowouts even the bench players are much better than starters on the opposition, and they aren't demonstrating anything by stealing, scoring, and blocking. There are inevitable disparities in talent, even in hs league competition, and when that happens, coaches of the winning teams should just work on things that won't run the score to embarrassing levels.
Every time a poster here mentions class I check to make sure I still have my wallet.
Consider:
The losing team is 0-15. Game scores.
63-10
103-12
48-3
56-8
58-17
54-13
76-23
57-9
59-7
161-2
51-13
56-9
53-10
49-8
48-8
Average margin of loss ~ 50. Largest margin 91. Smallest 35.
The winning team is 14-1
95-22
77-32
62-60 (loss)
68-21
73-19
104-23
76-9
91-17
66-23
64-56
56-48
110-12
89-38
60-29
161-2
80-19
78-28
Average margin of victory ~ 55. Largest 98.
So they ran the score up, but not by that much more than normal. My question would be: why does school 1 have a BB program at all? Likely answer: title 9. So really this is the fault of the political left, whose best efforts to treat everyone the same has as usual engendered even greater unfairness and inequality.
beast of the east
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As usual, you provide good information. At this level, sometimes school teams are put into leagues solely by enrollment size, not competitiveness of teams. Sometimes, a very small school can be in league with a very large one - it can be because of distance. In the CHSAA on LI, for a long time, people suggested that St. Joseph's Academy move to the private school league, which was less competitive but the sisters of St. Joseph refused because they wanted them in a Catholic league. In that case every single league coach started the end of their bench, and played regular starters very few minutes in those games. So there are better ways to handle it then just crushing your competition which proves nothing.
ZanMan
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Any coach that allows their team to win by more than 40 is classless IMO. There are ways to prevent embarrassing the other team. I coach middle school kids and my magic # is 30 in a game where it's an obvious turkey shoot in our favor. My goal is to keep that lead under 30 and my players always respect that.
When I go to play powerhouse teams like LUHI we are sometimes on the other side of the beating and I always remind my kids what it feels like to be on that end and that they should always remember that next time they are up by 25 or 30.
It's a coach's responsibility to teach his/her players how to respect their opponent and the game. I see a lot of coaches who have no interested in doing either.
When I go to play powerhouse teams like LUHI we are sometimes on the other side of the beating and I always remind my kids what it feels like to be on that end and that they should always remember that next time they are up by 25 or 30.
It's a coach's responsibility to teach his/her players how to respect their opponent and the game. I see a lot of coaches who have no interested in doing either.
beast of the east
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At D1, everyone on the end fo the bench is trying to prove they belong on a D1 court. So, if a coach keeps his starters in nearly all the way in a 50 point drubbing, that's classless. Sometimes it's done to teams that the winning team has a gripe against. But I couldn't fault Max Hooper from nailing 3 or 4 meaningless (except to him) threes in a blowout, which he did last season.