FYI ....US News Ranking

Much better than rankings, I met a 27 year old friend of my daughter last week who left Columbia as an undergrad and finished at St. John's. His entrepreneurial career appears to be zooming, with a company that markets for app developers, and guarantees 100K downloads of an app for a more than competitive fee. He said he loved St. John's and it was a great school for him. As a fwiw, his dad graduated St. John's before embarking on his own successful career. Kids like this should be part of SJU's marketing of the types of graduates we produce.
 
Bobby G "gets it".

St. John's US News ranking will slowly improve over the next few years.
 
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U.S. News relegates to lower rankings public universities that admit most of the young Americans from poor families who attend college, and which graduate far larger percentages of teachers, social workers, legal aide attorneys, community organizers, and public servants than do the private elite colleges...........
.......The U.S. News rankings perpetuate the myth that these elite institutions offer the best education -- as if the economic diversity of a student body and the values and career choices of its undergraduates were irrelevant to receiving a high-quality education. ............
............For the past decade, though, I've been teaching at the University of California at Berkeley........One thing I've discovered: My Berkeley students are every bit as bright as the students I met or taught in the Ivies....... Another: More Pell-grant eligible students (a proxy for students from low-income families) attend Berkeley than attend the entire Ivy League combined.
 
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/8134306

U.S. News relegates to lower rankings public universities that admit most of the young Americans from poor families who attend college, and which graduate far larger percentages of teachers, social workers, legal aide attorneys, community organizers, and public servants than do the private elite colleges...........
.......The U.S. News rankings perpetuate the myth that these elite institutions offer the best education -- as if the economic diversity of a student body and the values and career choices of its undergraduates were irrelevant to receiving a high-quality education. ............
............For the past decade, though, I've been teaching at the University of California at Berkeley........One thing I've discovered: My Berkeley students are every bit as bright as the students I met or taught in the Ivies....... Another: More Pell-grant eligible students (a proxy for students from low-income families) attend Berkeley than attend the entire Ivy League combined.
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I would like to see a statistical validation of this as verification rather than a blog post. What I'm doubting the validity, University of North Carolina is public, as is Michigan. Schools like Georgetown and Villanova have Nursing schools, not exactly the top of the food chart. Boston College has a school of ed. All of those schools have significant and growing diverse student populations and it doesn't seem to affect their academic standing. Then again, they are all more selective, and the diverse students they attract generally perform very well in the classroom.. I think the blogger is off base. The best students perform the best in the classroom regardless of race or ethnicity, and many elite schools promote public service. Harvard, for example has nearly every student apply for Teach for America, a low paying two year commitment that often gets extended or results in students taking FT permanent teaching jobs.
 
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/8134306

U.S. News relegates to lower rankings public universities that admit most of the young Americans from poor families who attend college, and which graduate far larger percentages of teachers, social workers, legal aide attorneys, community organizers, and public servants than do the private elite colleges...........
.......The U.S. News rankings perpetuate the myth that these elite institutions offer the best education -- as if the economic diversity of a student body and the values and career choices of its undergraduates were irrelevant to receiving a high-quality education. ............
............For the past decade, though, I've been teaching at the University of California at Berkeley........One thing I've discovered: My Berkeley students are every bit as bright as the students I met or taught in the Ivies....... Another: More Pell-grant eligible students (a proxy for students from low-income families) attend Berkeley than attend the entire Ivy League combined.
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I would like to see a statistical validation of this as verification rather than a blog post. What I'm doubting the validity, University of North Carolina is public, as is Michigan. Schools like Georgetown and Villanova have Nursing schools, not exactly the top of the food chart. Boston College has a school of ed. All of those schools have significant and growing diverse student populations and it doesn't seem to affect their academic standing. Then again, they are all more selective, and the diverse students they attract generally perform very well in the classroom.. I think the blogger is off base. The best students perform the best in the classroom regardless of race or ethnicity, and many elite schools promote public service. Harvard, for example has nearly every student apply for Teach for America, a low paying two year commitment that often gets extended or results in students taking FT permanent teaching jobs.
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I don't get your point. Cal-Berkley is a great school with brilliant students that may choose public service positions because they want to give back. It is just an opinion.
 
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/8134306

U.S. News relegates to lower rankings public universities that admit most of the young Americans from poor families who attend college, and which graduate far larger percentages of teachers, social workers, legal aide attorneys, community organizers, and public servants than do the private elite colleges...........
.......The U.S. News rankings perpetuate the myth that these elite institutions offer the best education -- as if the economic diversity of a student body and the values and career choices of its undergraduates were irrelevant to receiving a high-quality education. ............
............For the past decade, though, I've been teaching at the University of California at Berkeley........One thing I've discovered: My Berkeley students are every bit as bright as the students I met or taught in the Ivies....... Another: More Pell-grant eligible students (a proxy for students from low-income families) attend Berkeley than attend the entire Ivy League combined.
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I would like to see a statistical validation of this as verification rather than a blog post. What I'm doubting the validity, University of North Carolina is public, as is Michigan. Schools like Georgetown and Villanova have Nursing schools, not exactly the top of the food chart. Boston College has a school of ed. All of those schools have significant and growing diverse student populations and it doesn't seem to affect their academic standing. Then again, they are all more selective, and the diverse students they attract generally perform very well in the classroom.. I think the blogger is off base. The best students perform the best in the classroom regardless of race or ethnicity, and many elite schools promote public service. Harvard, for example has nearly every student apply for Teach for America, a low paying two year commitment that often gets extended or results in students taking FT permanent teaching jobs.
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I don't get your point. Cal-Berkley is a great school with brilliant students that may choose public service positions because they want to give back. It is just an opinion.
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The point is that at many top private schools students choose public service positions and lower paying professions that don't have a high upside (like teaching and nursing) , not just at state schools.
 
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