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chronicbucks
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Article makes it seem like Briscoe played Lavin.
He should be booed in the city for the rest of his life.
He should be booed in the city for the rest of his life.
Expert in X's and O's as in formulating sentences, teaching young men the value of education
and honoring a father and his legacy. Lavin excels in this and it is far more important than wins
and loses. You know the coach is hurting on the Briscoe ordeal. So close up until the last moment
when they tear your heart out. Briscoe's ambiguity almost killed Lavin, but he will survive to
persuade other young men to the attributes of St. John's.
and honoring a father and his legacy. Lavin excels in this and it is far more important than wins
and loses. You know the coach is hurting on the Briscoe ordeal. So close up until the last moment
when they tear your heart out. Briscoe's ambiguity almost killed Lavin, but he will survive to
persuade other young men to the attributes of St. John's.
Coaching college basketball is a tough business with emotional highs and lows, but this is the business he chose! Frankly I would love to have more NCAA tourney appearances, and more BE titles, but I like what Lavin represents! This Briscoe kid is an eighteen year old who was charmed by the best in the business. Lavin should quickly put it behind him and move forward. As mentioned on this board many times, we need to identify those 3 & 4 star recruits and pursue them with the vigor he displayed with Briscoe. Life will go on!!!!!!!!
beast of the east
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You have to speculate whenever you are in the highest profile city and have a low profile program, and a kid makes you a finalist in a sweepstakes against the Harvard of college basketball. We don't and won't ever find out what was in the kid's head. It's just as possible that he and his dad's interest was sincere, and that he enjoyed the love he received every time he showed up on SJU's campus. I happen to think it's a little of both.
Lavin is getting ripped now largely because this decision went against us (on top of the lack of improvement in the program), but we'd all admit that if there were long odds against SJU landing this kid.
Harvey Araton is a gifted writer, this is a great article, shows our program in a positive light. Cap Lavin sounds like a terrific person. Kudos to the New York Times for giving our University some positive coverage. Now I hope we can get some ink in their paper after our games, not just box scores and AP blurbs.
When you are a basketball coach and get payed the big bucks to do it, I'm sorry but W/L is important. More important than anything else.
as mentioned previously he is getting ripped because he didn't recruit well in 14. We are in a position that we are very thin up front this year. No true BE calibre PF. Just about all of our good players will be gone next year. It's not too late, maybe CO will return and he will get JUCOs and some good recruits. But building a team around Jones,Balimue and ADR is sad thought. Lavin has a steep hill to climb.Furthermore no one is signed for next year.
It pains me to say this but 20 wins in this new weaker big east doesn't mean much unless 5 of the 20 are against Duke, Cuse, Gonzaga, Gtown, or nova. This idea of winning 20 games being an accomplishment is in your head because in the old big east, winning 20 games was like an automatic 8 or 9 seed in the tournament. Times have changed though, winning 20 games does not mean we had a good season. I am excited to see where this season goes and if we make the tournament and go far we can reassess Lavin and consider maybe keeping him, but right now 20 wins isn't going to save his job unless the big east magically went back to what it was.
Moose
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Whoopee. 20 wins doesn't hold the water it used to.
When Lavin's 2nd class committed how many NCAA berths would you have expected by the time graduated. The most conservative would have said 2 figuring JR and SR year. Well last year his mind games cost us a berth and even if they do it this year thats 1 out of 4. His mind games cost us their SOPH year too but lets not go there again.
Doesn't give me much hope even if we had a highly ranked class coming in next year. Waiting 4 years for a berth is not how you build a program.
Rich, if ADR develops (adds muscle, loses baby fat) I think he is a good four year program anchor.
You and I and many others have talked about Lavin teams with great athletes and low BB IQ's playing as less than the sum of their parts with some of those players going on to fine pro careers with better coaches using their skills to win. Keady got more out of thick big guys than most coaches you can name but don't know if that will ever happen at STJ.
Avon Barksdale
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I can't see 20 wins because as I stated in another thread for that to happen everything has to break right and that never happens for us.
I think we will hover around .500 all year with a lot of frustrating losses.
I hope I am wrong and the seniors go out in style but based on the body of work from them and especially from "Lav" I don't see it.
I think we will hover around .500 all year with a lot of frustrating losses.
I hope I am wrong and the seniors go out in style but based on the body of work from them and especially from "Lav" I don't see it.
I like ADR , but the fact is he is very out of shape and I'm talking about next year. Even if he turns out to be great next year ,we have so many positions to fill. That's why the IB loss stings so much . Not only would he have been a great pg, probably Sampson would have followed he would have been a catalyst for others as well.
20 wins is a lock as long as Jordan, Harrison and Opekpa stay healthy. That however will mean very little if we don't beat the Dukes, Novas, Gonzagas on our schedule. We need quality wins to get in the dance. Hopefully we get a couple early and then start fast in the big East. Our end of year schedule gets very tough so another slow start will be a killer.
I think he did play Lavin. What he needs to recruit are players from the nyc area period with one or two from out of town. We need players who want to play hard and rough and who dont like the other team. They need motivation. I watch the games and the players seem to be too friendly with those on the other teams. They shouldnt even shake hands at the beginning of games. We need to be the new bad boys in town and btw we should go back to wearing black shoes which I believe the team wore for one or two years under Jarvis.
FDU, who we play next month, just beat St. Joe's on the road.
Minnesota "hung with" Louisville for awhile on a neutral court.
St. Mary's is always a pain.
And Fordham has a couple of local players that will give us fits if they're on their game.
I don't think the race to 20 is by any means a lock.
I commend the staff for this OOC schedule. Looks like the toughest we'll have since 2011.