Contribution Necessary to Buy Season Txts @ IU

If we move up in reputation and attendance watch the less affluent moving up towards the rafters at CA and the Garden.
 
The bigest mistake by tanman was to implement a new points system under a Loser's reign like Norm Roberts

He should have grandfathered everyone in their seat locations for 4yrs & not raised the Red & white fees until the school started makling the ncaa's. Not under a rebuilding era of norm.

Instead they double my R&W from $1000 to $2000 with threat of 2 seasons tics being moved from center to corner
Sitting thru Duke holding Norms team to 10 pts in the 1st half helped me cancel & made it easy for me to end my support of a badly run program.

Respecting your Alumni /customers loyalty was thrown out for greed.

Customer is King in any business except one run by the vincentians where Harry is.
St.j's lost alot of great Johnny fans with that stupid move by moanasch

IAM rooting hard for Lavin but not buying tic until Harrys gone!
 
I paid Syracuse $4000 per year for the right to 4 seats at the Carrier Dome for more than 20 years. That price has increasedby $2-400 since I left the snow. It was a good deal in the long run as SU was and still is the ONLY game in town and is the social center of the universe in Central NY.
Bear in mind that 10-13 of those games every year were against Colgate, Elon, Canesius, Albany with occasionally a game agaist a big state school like University of Idaho or Wyoming State.
Syracuse rarely, if ever, played a challenging or an away game before the Big East season in January so, effectively, you paid an extra $100 to $150 per game for the league events. That also gave the right to buy football tickets and I thought that was a fair deal for good seats. It worked for me.
Even with that, it wasn't enough to pay for Orange athletics. as they now have moved to the ACC to cover their costs.I bring this to light only to put the StJ situation in perspective. I still have the stub from the first ( or one of the first) games at carnesecca against Manhattan; It cost me $2....sit anywhere except the one row of soft seats on the rail! Times, and costs, have really changed.




























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I've lived in Indiana for the better part of 13 years, there is no ticket more difficult to obtain (or more hefty a mark up when you consider all that is required) than floor seats at IU for basketball. Notre Dame football has greater national appeal, but college basketball is pound for pound king here, and it is difficult to appreciate the contrasts between IU and schools like my beloved alma mater St. John's, especially in terms of dollars generated by the program and brand loyalty. IU basketball is not just the envy of Butler, ND, and Purdue, but of the Colts, Pacers, and the Indianapolis Speedway. There is no down year for the finances at Assembly Hall, just recently the product. IU (and for that matter Kentucky, Kansas, NC and maybe a handful of others) cannot be viewed or compared to traditional sports teams where their bottom line is in direct correlation with the team's success. If the team fails, a coach is sought to make the team competitive, but the 16,000 seat arenas remain full with alumni, business sponsors and students. If you read this article with slight outrage at the manner that season holders are treated, know that they will gladly take it rather than give up a seat at the table.
 
Indiana has won how many ncaa titiles? St.Johns has zero & overates its history even rewarding Lou C.
with his name on the gym that should bear Lapchicks who won a NIT title that counted as good as todays ncaa title
The court was suppose to be Louies not the arena.
If Lavin wins a ncaa what will he get named after him??
 
Indiana has won how many ncaa titiles? St.Johns has zero & overates its history even rewarding Lou C.
with his name on the gym that should bear Lapchicks who won a NIT title that counted as good as todays ncaa title
The court was suppose to be Louies not the arena.
If Lavin wins a ncaa what will he get named after him??
I don't know but let's hope we face that problem.
 
Like it or not, big time college athletics are just that - big time. Most of those who gripe, didn't complain when sitting close to the court in a packed MSG watching an epic battle between very good SJU teams and a ranked opponent when the ticket cost $20 or $30. On many such occaions, I remember thinking that just one or two of those games in a season was worth the price of a season ticket, and I wouldn't trade that for the same number of games wtching the Knicks. Most of us with seats very close to the court donated very little for that privilege, and our only argument was that we were loyal fans of the program. When losing followed and seating was based on points, it was easy for most long time fans to give up their tickets. The only loyalty that really counts on the bottom line is how much you donate to the university. A great sports program generates revenue and brands a university. If great seats are a perk to reward and attract donors, its just another way for the university to generate revenue. Some people have complained on here that seats should cost $5 just because that's what they can afford. While I feel for them, if you really love basketball, and not just SJU basketball, you can watch hs basketball for $1-2, or Adelphi or Molloy basketball for that amount. A movie ticket now costs $11, an IMAX ticket almost $20. For years, SJU basketball was one of the best bargains in NY. Times have changed, and there's nothing anyone can say that will change it.
 
Like it or not, big time college athletics are just that - big time. Most of those who gripe, didn't complain when sitting close to the court in a packed MSG watching an epic battle between very good SJU teams and a ranked opponent when the ticket cost $20 or $30. On many such occaions, I remember thinking that just one or two of those games in a season was worth the price of a season ticket, and I wouldn't trade that for the same number of games wtching the Knicks. Most of us with seats very close to the court donated very little for that privilege, and our only argument was that we were loyal fans of the program. When losing followed and seating was based on points, it was easy for most long time fans to give up their tickets. The only loyalty that really counts on the bottom line is how much you donate to the university. A great sports program generates revenue and brands a university. If great seats are a perk to reward and attract donors, its just another way for the university to generate revenue. Some people have complained on here that seats should cost $5 just because that's what they can afford. While I feel for them, if you really love basketball, and not just SJU basketball, you can watch hs basketball for $1-2, or Adelphi or Molloy basketball for that amount. A movie ticket now costs $11, an IMAX ticket almost $20. For years, SJU basketball was one of the best bargains in NY. Times have changed, and there's nothing anyone can say that will change it.

the student support is embarassing
they have to reduce ticket prices & fill the garden with students
they should bus the students for free to all garden games & fill All the levels behind the basket
any current athlete should be given a free ticket also
no excuse to not fill those bigeast games seats its moanasch fault
uconn buses in so does cuse
how much to hire 20 school buses
 
I've lived in Indiana for the better part of 13 years, there is no ticket more difficult to obtain (or more hefty a mark up when you consider all that is required) than floor seats at IU for basketball. Notre Dame football has greater national appeal, but college basketball is pound for pound king here, and it is difficult to appreciate the contrasts between IU and schools like my beloved alma mater St. John's, especially in terms of dollars generated by the program and brand loyalty. IU basketball is not just the envy of Butler, ND, and Purdue, but of the Colts, Pacers, and the Indianapolis Speedway. There is no down year for the finances at Assembly Hall, just recently the product. IU (and for that matter Kentucky, Kansas, NC and maybe a handful of others) cannot be viewed or compared to traditional sports teams where their bottom line is in direct correlation with the team's success. If the team fails, a coach is sought to make the team competitive, but the 16,000 seat arenas remain full with alumni, business sponsors and students. If you read this article with slight outrage at the manner that season holders are treated, know that they will gladly take it rather than give up a seat at the table.

Greetings Indy! You are spot on about basketball in the Hoosier state!
IU however is in Bloomington, a rather large college town with around 35,000 undergrads. It is the only game in town with a cult like following similar to Kentucky in Lexington. That SJ got 4,000 fans for NJIT or Holy Cross is commendable considering the team has not shown anything resembling IU's potential this year.
Winning fills seats in NYC and the MSG target audience are casual fans who will buy tickets to fill the arena when SJ is a 25 game winner. Until we stop predicting 16 win seasons and rebuilding every year, we will not sniff IU.
 
Indiana has won how many ncaa titiles? St.Johns has zero & overates its history even rewarding Lou C.
with his name on the gym that should bear Lapchicks who won a NIT title that counted as good as todays ncaa title
The court was suppose to be Louies not the arena.
If Lavin wins a ncaa what will he get named after him??
Anything he wants!
 
Syracuse does not bus anyone, ever, and, if you don't walk, parking will cost you $100s. It is a different world. Your decisions are the Carrier Dome or the mall and the movie or home or the local bar. You guys compete with the Yanks, Knicks, Nets, Jets, Giants,Mets,Rangers, Islanders,Broadway, MSG, The Barkley,The Met, The Guggenheim, MOMA, Chinatown, Little Italy, The Village,Times Square,the libraries, the beach to mention a few. You can never, nor will ever, compare with a small town. Their are NO social sacrifices, only trade-offs, in Gotham.
 
Syracuse does not bus anyone, ever, and, if you don't walk, parking will cost you $100s. It is a different world. Your decisions are the Carrier Dome or the mall and the movie or home or the local bar. You guys compete with the Yanks, Knicks, Nets, Jets, Giants,Mets,Rangers, Islanders,Broadway, MSG, The Barkley,The Met, The Guggenheim, MOMA, Chinatown, Little Italy, The Village,Times Square,the libraries, the beach to mention a few. You can never, nor will ever, compare with a small town. Their are NO social sacrifices, only trade-offs, in Gotham.

IAM talking about the garden not the dome.
Scuse runs bus trips to the garden evertime they play including bigeast I see them every time next to garden
even though its a long rd trip. st.j's should shuttle students to the garden every game no excuses
If you cant market internally to your students your future alumni base is doomed
 
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