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Windy City Johnny Fan
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Your sentence cut off, let me finish it for you - the only team that beat the national champions on their home court and also lost 11 in a row including to Georgetown twice and to DePaul at home by 20
Wow, there is a lot of real cynicism and negativity on the board. If you guys want to continue to pound away and reinforce each other knock yourselves out. I'm not thrilled with the season but I was just trying to post something positive about it.
You may now resume your bashing of Chris, the staff and ST J basketball in general.
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You may now resume your bashing of Chris, the staff and ST J basketball in general.
:dry:[quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=279433]Your sentence cut off, let me finish it for you - the only team that beat the national champions on their home court and also lost 11 in a row including to Georgetown twice and to DePaul at home by 20[/quote]
No, since it's my sentence let me finish it - and beat the then ranked #4 team and NCAA elite eight finalist a week earlier..
No, since it's my sentence let me finish it - and beat the then ranked #4 team and NCAA elite eight finalist a week earlier..
WillyDilly
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[quote="Section9" post=279509][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=279433]Your sentence cut off, let me finish it for you - the only team that beat the national champions on their home court and also lost 11 in a row including to Georgetown twice and to DePaul at home by 20[/quote]
No, since it's my sentence let me finish it - and beat the then ranked #4 team and NCAA elite eight finalist a week earlier..[/quote]
It's sad when you have to take pride in another team's success.....
No, since it's my sentence let me finish it - and beat the then ranked #4 team and NCAA elite eight finalist a week earlier..[/quote]
It's sad when you have to take pride in another team's success.....
beast of the east
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[quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=279563]Beating Nova and Duke in the same week may have been the best week ever for us. But, have to judge by the whole body of work. And last place does not deserve a congrats in my book.[/quote]
I believed his congratulations to be cynical. A 15-16 record, and 4-12 in conference is nothing to write home about, but there were significant improvements:
8-23, to 13-18, to 15-16. Improvement this season even with the unexpected loss of Lovett.
Year 1: Bad OOC losses to Fordham, Incarnate Word, NJIT. Year 2: Bad OOC losses to Old Dominion, Del St, and NJIT only Year 3: no OOC bad losses
2-5 vs. ranked teams this season. (0-9 year 1, 1-7 year 2)
All in all, the following players would have gotten rotation run on Nova's team, or are certainly capable of that: Ponds, Lovett, Clark, Simons. Owens spot duty. Give us Paschal and Spellman, and let them take Owens and Yakwe and we are solidly a ranked team. I know thats a big concession, but we have some players IMO. We didn't play a ton of close games because we were severely deficient. We need a few upgrades on the front line, not a team overall.
Again congratulationsnot in order, but we aren't as far away as some of these posts insist.
Our 15-16 record does compare with Norms year 3 record of 16-14. that team was 7-9 in conf, 1-5 vs. ranked teams , with their only win vs. #22 Notre Dame.
I believed his congratulations to be cynical. A 15-16 record, and 4-12 in conference is nothing to write home about, but there were significant improvements:
8-23, to 13-18, to 15-16. Improvement this season even with the unexpected loss of Lovett.
Year 1: Bad OOC losses to Fordham, Incarnate Word, NJIT. Year 2: Bad OOC losses to Old Dominion, Del St, and NJIT only Year 3: no OOC bad losses
2-5 vs. ranked teams this season. (0-9 year 1, 1-7 year 2)
All in all, the following players would have gotten rotation run on Nova's team, or are certainly capable of that: Ponds, Lovett, Clark, Simons. Owens spot duty. Give us Paschal and Spellman, and let them take Owens and Yakwe and we are solidly a ranked team. I know thats a big concession, but we have some players IMO. We didn't play a ton of close games because we were severely deficient. We need a few upgrades on the front line, not a team overall.
Again congratulationsnot in order, but we aren't as far away as some of these posts insist.
Our 15-16 record does compare with Norms year 3 record of 16-14. that team was 7-9 in conf, 1-5 vs. ranked teams , with their only win vs. #22 Notre Dame.
That week of Duke and Nova felt good, I got calls and texts from all sorts of people who don't follow SJU and who couldn't believe our overall record.
It will feel even better next year when the overall record hopefully matches that magical week.
It will feel even better next year when the overall record hopefully matches that magical week.
As we all know, we've been completely irrelevant during the 2000s outside of a few weeks.
Those weeks included brief periods we were ranked during Lavin's first and last years, and.... not much else aside from a few (vacated?) weeks 15 years ago. The week this year, in itself, was the most relevant week for SJU during the 21st century. If you followed college basketball during February, you knew about SJU.
Obviously we all want that to be the case for March, but I'd absolutely take wins over Nova/Duke instead of a 7-11 BE record and NIT invite. Being happy about the wins doesn't imply settling. It is what it is and I'm optimistic about next year.
The fact is we had two of the most exciting regular season wins of the entire year. You could argue these were the two best regular season wins for any team in the country. That should not be overlooked or forgotten. I certainly won't be.
Those weeks included brief periods we were ranked during Lavin's first and last years, and.... not much else aside from a few (vacated?) weeks 15 years ago. The week this year, in itself, was the most relevant week for SJU during the 21st century. If you followed college basketball during February, you knew about SJU.
Obviously we all want that to be the case for March, but I'd absolutely take wins over Nova/Duke instead of a 7-11 BE record and NIT invite. Being happy about the wins doesn't imply settling. It is what it is and I'm optimistic about next year.
The fact is we had two of the most exciting regular season wins of the entire year. You could argue these were the two best regular season wins for any team in the country. That should not be overlooked or forgotten. I certainly won't be.
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