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College Too Expensive? That’s a Myth

Pell grants, state aid, modest loans and scholarships put a four-year public institution within the reach of most.

By LAMAR ALEXANDER

Updated July 6, 2015 9:59 p.m. WALL STREET JOURNAL

Paying for college never is easy, but it’s easier than most people think. Yet some politicians and pundits say students can’t afford a college education. That’s wrong. Most of them can.

Public two-year colleges, for example, are free or nearly free for low-income students. Nationally, community college tuition and fees average $3,300 per year, according to the College Board. The annual federal Pell grant for these students—which does not have to be paid back—also averages $3,300.

At public four-year colleges, tuition and fees average about $9,000. At the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, tuition and fees are $11,800. One third of its students have a Pell grant (up to $5,775 depending on financial need), and 98% of instate freshmen have a state Hope Scholarship, providing up to $3,500 annually for freshmen and sophomores and up to $4,500 for juniors or seniors. States run a variety of similar programs—$11.2 billion in financial aid in 2013, 85% in the form of scholarships, according to the National Association of State Student Grant and Aid Programs.

The reality is that, for most students, a four-year public institution is also within financial reach.


What about really expensive private colleges? Across the country 15% of students attend private universities where tuition and fees average $31,000, according to the College Board. Georgetown University costs even more: about $50,000 a year. Its president, John DeGioia, told me how Georgetown—and many other so-called elite colleges—help make a degree affordable.

First, Georgetown determines what a family can afford to pay. It asks the student to borrow $17,000 over four years and work 10-15 hours a week under its work-study program. Georgetown pays the remainder—at a total cost of about $100 million a year.

Apart from grants, work and savings, there are federal student loans. We hear a lot of questions about these loans. Are taxpayers generous enough? Is borrowing for college a good investment? Are students borrowing too much?

An undergraduate today can get a federal loan of up to $5,500 his first year. The annual loan limit rises to $7,500 his junior and senior years. The fixed interest rate for new loans this year is, by law, 4.29%. A recent graduate may pay back the loan using no more than 10% of his disposable income. And if at that rate he doesn’t pay it off in 20 years, taxpayers forgive the loan.

Are students borrowing too much? The College Board reports that a student who graduates from a four-year institution carries, on average, a debt of about $27,000. This is about the same amount of the average new car loan, according to the information-services company Experian Automotive. The total amount of outstanding student loans is $1.2 trillion. The total amount of auto loans outstanding in the U.S. is $950 billion.

But a student loan is a lot better investment. Cars depreciate. College degrees appreciate. The College Board estimates that a four-year degree will increase an individual’s lifetime earnings by $1 million, on average.

What about the scary stories of students with $100,000 or more in debt? These represent only 4% of all student loans, and 90% of the borrowers are doctors, lawyers, business school graduates and others who have earned graduate degrees.

About seven million federal student loan borrowers are in default, defined as failing to make a loan payment in at least nine months. That’s about one in 10 of all outstanding federal student loans in default—although the Education Department says most of those loans eventually get paid back.

Here are five steps the federal government can take to make it easier for students to finance their college education:

• Allow students to use Pell grants year-round, not only for the traditional fall and spring academic terms, to complete their degrees more rapidly.

• Simplify the confusing 108-question federal student-aid application form and consolidate the nine loan repayment programs to two: a standard repayment program and one based on their income.

• Change the laws and regulations that discourage colleges from counseling students against borrowing too much.

• Require colleges to share in the risk of lending to students. This will ensure that they have some interest in encouraging students to borrow wisely, graduate on time, and be able to pay back what they owe.

• Clear out the federal red tape that soaks up state dollars that could otherwise go to help reduce tuition. The Boston Consulting Group found that in one year Vanderbilt University spent a startling $150 million complying with federal rules and regulations governing higher education, adding more than $11,000 to the cost of each Vanderbilt student’s $43,000 in tuition. America’s more than 6,000 colleges receive on average one new rule, regulation or guidance letter each workday from the Education Department.

It is vital that more Americans earn their college degrees, for their own benefit and that of the country. A report by Georgetown University’s Center on Education in the Workforce tells us that if we don’t, we’ll fall short by five million workers with postsecondary education in five years.

Mr. Alexander, a Republican from Tennessee, is chairman of the Senate’s education committee. He has been secretary of the Education Department, president of the University of Tennessee and governor of Tennessee.
 
College Isn’t as Affordable as Lamar Alexander Thinks

Four years of college plus living expenses is expensive.

July 13, 2015 7:06 p.m. ET

Sen. Lamar Alexander has been a politician so long that he no longer understands that money comes from working people who understand what is expensive, and four years of college plus living expenses is expensive (“College Too Expensive? That’s a Myth,” op-ed, July 7).

I spent five years in the Navy to earn my GI Bill benefits. With that plus working 25-40 hours a week, I earned my B.A., plus one year of grad school. I was debt free when hired out of grad school. With today’s tuition and living cost that would be impossible.

C. Jay Dunton

Oakland, Calif.

More attention should be focused on cost. College costs have risen dramatically. And why are they so similar? According to Forbes’s 2014 America’s Top Colleges report, 47 of the top schools have costs (tuition, room, board, fees) of $60,000-plus annually. And another 27 list costs at $55,000-$60,000. If they were selling most other products with such price uniformity, they would be ripe for an antitrust investigation.

Jack A. Kaster

Savannah, Ga.

It’s no coincidence that the cost of college has skyrocketed over the last 20 years. And our president’s desires to wipe out the current college-loan debt will only make things worse. Count me as one rooting for my grandkids to get their educations at a quality MOOC (massive open online course), because the traditional system is unsustainable.

Frank Herman

Peachtree City, Ga.

It is counterintuitive to many politicians, but the more affordable they try to make higher education, the less affordable it will become. Easy money from the federal government has created a bloated educational complex that is unresponsive to economic realities.

Stephen Biel

Milford, Ohio

Sen. Alexander points out that at the public university in his state, Tennessee, tuition and fees are $11,800. What about room and board, books and supplies and “other” expenses, or as parents should we not take that into consideration? If you Google tuition at the University of Tennessee you find: Cost of attendance is $27,640. That’s 130% more than Sen. Alexander’s number. That’s like saying it costs only $1,000 a month to own a home, not counting real-estate taxes, water, gas, electricity, upkeep, etc.

John Nowicki

River Forest, Ill.

Students can serve their country. Our eldest daughter was in Army ROTC, which provided substantial benefits in exchange for service. Our youngest daughter, age 17, will start a “gap” year next week. Most kids have gap years that cost their parents money. Our daughter will train, earn a salary and college credits that will apply to her major at a university in New Jersey. She will receive a tuition waiver from this university for her service. Service academies are another outstanding option.

Julia A. Richmond Oliver

Morganville, N.J.

How much, on average, people who received college degrees in the past earn compared with those who didn’t has not the slightest bearing on an individual today who is trying to decide whether going to college makes sense. No one is average, and labor-market conditions aren’t the same as they were decades ago. The simple truth is that we already have an enormous glut of people in the labor force who have college credentials (if not necessarily college educations) and many of them can only find work that could be done by high-school students.

Politicians should stop talking about any college “premium” at all because the costs, even with all the subsidies, exceed the benefits for many.

George Leef

John W. Pope Center for Higher Education Policy

Raleigh, N.C.

Years ago there was a bumper sticker: “Think education is expensive? Try life without it!” Still holds true and always will.

Margit J. Smith

San Diego
 
In relative terms:

the cost of my degree at SJU for tuition and fees was about 12,000. This didn't include books, which cost about another $500 per year I'm guessing. I graduated with about $8,000 in student loans, which was about 1/3 of the gross salary I could have earned as a result of my degree.

Today, the tuition (without room and board) for one of my kids is about $45,000 (63,000 including room and board). $180,000 in debt is more than 4 times the gross earning potential he will have as an entry level employee.

The 8% annual increases over the last 20 years in private college tuitions can be attributed to government sponsored low interest student loans. This increased the affordability of private schools for many Americans, and subsequently drove up demand. Increased demand allowed schools to increase tuition even as endowments increased. This allowed for university expansion, and capital improvements for new buildings, renovations, athletic facilities, student health clubs, and expansion of administration infrastructure. Throw in Pell grants, which schools like SJU used to pad enrollment. Take a disadvantaged student with marginal grades, his Pell grant, some scholarship and grant money fueled by increased endowments, and sock the kid with a low cost readily available government sponsored student loan, and the school profits mightily.
 
In relative terms:

the cost of my degree at SJU for tuition and fees was about 12,000. This didn't include books, which cost about another $500 per year I'm guessing. I graduated with about $8,000 in student loans, which was about 1/3 of the gross salary I could have earned as a result of my degree.

Today, the tuition (without room and board) for one of my kids is about $45,000 (63,000 including room and board). $180,000 in debt is more than 4 times the gross earning potential he will have as an entry level employee.

The 8% annual increases over the last 20 years in private college tuitions can be attributed to government sponsored low interest student loans. This increased the affordability of private schools for many Americans, and subsequently drove up demand. Increased demand allowed schools to increase tuition even as endowments increased. This allowed for university expansion, and capital improvements for new buildings, renovations, athletic facilities, student health clubs, and expansion of administration infrastructure. Throw in Pell grants, which schools like SJU used to pad enrollment. Take a disadvantaged student with marginal grades, his Pell grant, some scholarship and grant money fueled by increased endowments, and sock the kid with a low cost readily available government sponsored student loan, and the school profits mightily.

Here is my solution to lower tuition costs and reduce student loans: make colleges eliminate all of the bullsh*t majors that are just adding to the rising costs. Or if they are going to offer these major, match the amount of financial aid you can receive to the unemployment rate for that major. In other words, if you choose a major with a high unemployment rate, you should be eligible for less financial aid, and should be required to pay more out of pocket up front.

For example, at Plymouth State College in New Hampshire you can earn a B.S. in Adventure Education. You may ask yourself, what exactly is a degree in Adventure Education? Well, according to their website: "A degree in Adventure Education from Plymouth State University will teach you how to use the Great Outdoors to expose children, adults and at-risk populations to challenging adventures, personal growth and self-discovery." Here are some of the classes that this program offers: Rock Climbing Fundamentals, Canoe Paddling Fundamentals, Wilderness Expedition and Whitewater Kayaking.

The estimated tuition for Plymouth State College for 2015-2016 is $22,736 for in-state students. That does include housing and a meal plan, so if you live on your own, your costs may be less. That is roughly $80,000 in tuition to earn a degree in Adventure Education....just for the students. However, the school is also incurring costs in order to offer this degree (professor salaries, supplies, utilities, etc). This is all alot of money, just to teach someone how to go camping.

I am all about people following their passion and doing what they love to do, but it becomes a problem when that passion is preventing people from making a living, and is ultimately negatively affecting other people.
 
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