College Basketball Commission

[quote="jerseyshorejohnny" post=282572]Commission recommends The End of 1 and Done[/quote]

The commission, like just about everybody else, seems not to understand that the NCAA is powerless regarding the 1 and done. It is an NBA rule.
 
Number five could motivate the NBA to work with the NCAA on one and done. If players can opt back out of the draft they gain leverage. The NBA doesn't want that.
 
I would suspect the "Comission" is non-binding. Meaning nothing of real change will occur. The cheaters will walk away once again. Nothing to see here. Just something to make us feel that something is being done about widespread cheating, abuses and corruption.
 
[quote="SJU61982" post=282634][quote="jerseyshorejohnny" post=282572]Commission recommends The End of 1 and Done[/quote]

The commission, like just about everybody else, seems not to understand that the NCAA is powerless regarding the 1 and done. It is an NBA rule.[/quote]

Rice and the commission were aware of that, they were making recommendations regarding "things" that affected college basketball if you will, directly and indirectly. Their report and presser acknowledged that was an NBA rule but they addressed it in terms of the negative affect on CBB. They also made recommendations or comments regarding the affect sneaker companies "influence" has on CBB. My understanding is they also recommend the death penalty, a lifetime ban, on coaches with a certain level of rules violations. The commission also took university presidents to task recommending they sign documentation confirming their involvement and commitment to overseeing their programs. There are other things that would warrant consideration I think. I don't know all the details yet but on the surface appears to have been a credible job by the panel. The cynic in me definitely feels the changes the NCAA, NBA and AAU basketball will be minimal at best protecting their golden gooses at all costs.
 
Did they address the underfunded Compliance / Investigations staff?

Stiff penalties are not a deterant if schools know they won’t be thoroughly investigated within the same decade.
 
Said for years NBA should expand the draft and follow NHL. You can draft a player. He can go to school. And when he comes out you own his rights.
 
[quote="sjc88" post=282652]I would suspect the "Comission" is non-binding. Meaning nothing of real change will occur. The cheaters will walk away once again. Nothing to see here. Just something to make us feel that something is being done about widespread cheating, abuses and corruption.[/quote]

Agreed, relative to cheaters. But I'd be willing to let them "walk away" just to get rid of them.

As to the one and done, I liked the reference to possibly freezing the scholarships of kids who leave early. It has interesting ramifications.
 
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[quote="Moose" post=282735]Said for years NBA should expand the draft and follow NHL. You can draft a player. He can go to school. And when he comes out you own his rights.[/quote]

Don't recall the entire scenario but if the dementia hasn't completely kicked in, I believe the Celtics drafted Larry Bird after his junior year and held his rights for a relatively short time after his senior year. Fortunately for them, they signed him in that window.
 
I assumed you were crazy, instead you were right. From Wiki:

Before the draft, Larry Bird had just finished his junior year at Indiana State. However, he was eligible to be drafted without applying for "hardship" because his original college class at Indiana University had graduated.[9][14] He initially enrolled at Indiana University in 1974 but dropped out before the season began. After sitting out a year, he enrolled at Indiana State.[15] Despite being eligible for the draft, he stated that he would return to college for his senior season. His hometown team, the Indiana Pacers, initially held the first overall pick. However, when they failed to persuade him to leave college early, they traded the first pick to the Blazers, who also failed to convince him into signing.[16][17] Five teams, including the Pacers who held the third pick, passed on Bird until the Celtics used the sixth pick to draft him. They drafted him even though they knew that they might lose the exclusive rights to him if he didn't sign before the next draft. He could reenter the draft in 1979 and sign with the other team that drafted him, and in negotiations with Red Auerbach Bird's agent Bob Woolf bluntly dismissed Red's lowball salary offers (he said that he would not offer Bird a contract that paid him more than the $400,000 annual salary of the team's highest-paid player at the time, Dave Cowens) and made it clear that Bird would enter the 1979 Draft without any regrets if Boston didn't change its plans. Nevertheless, on April 1979, he signed a five-year, US$3.25-million contract with the Celtics, which made him the highest-paid rookie in the history of team sport at that time.
 
Back in 1955 when Wilt Chamberlain was graduating from high school and was already the best center in all of basketball the owner of the Philadelphia Warriors , Eddie Gottlieb,one of the most influential men in pro basketball got a law passed which allowed him to draft Wilt coming out of HIgh School binding Wilt to the Warriors when his class graduated in 1959.
At that time the NBA had some sort of territorial pick option on college grads that Gottlieb could not have used on Wilt if he left Philly to go to college which he did.
 
[quote="austour" post=282853]I assumed you were crazy, instead you were right. From Wiki:

Before the draft, Larry Bird had just finished his junior year at Indiana State. However, he was eligible to be drafted without applying for "hardship" because his original college class at Indiana University had graduated.[9][14] He initially enrolled at Indiana University in 1974 but dropped out before the season began. After sitting out a year, he enrolled at Indiana State.[15] Despite being eligible for the draft, he stated that he would return to college for his senior season. His hometown team, the Indiana Pacers, initially held the first overall pick. However, when they failed to persuade him to leave college early, they traded the first pick to the Blazers, who also failed to convince him into signing.[16][17] Five teams, including the Pacers who held the third pick, passed on Bird until the Celtics used the sixth pick to draft him. They drafted him even though they knew that they might lose the exclusive rights to him if he didn't sign before the next draft. He could reenter the draft in 1979 and sign with the other team that drafted him, and in negotiations with Red Auerbach Bird's agent Bob Woolf bluntly dismissed Red's lowball salary offers (he said that he would not offer Bird a contract that paid him more than the $400,000 annual salary of the team's highest-paid player at the time, Dave Cowens) and made it clear that Bird would enter the 1979 Draft without any regrets if Boston didn't change its plans. Nevertheless, on April 1979, he signed a five-year, US$3.25-million contract with the Celtics, which made him the highest-paid rookie in the history of team sport at that time.[/quote]

Well, your assumption was correct even if I was right about Bird
 
How Sports Ate Academic Freedom

Big-money athletics undermine universities’ core commitments: truth, discovery and free inquiry.

By Jay M. Smith

April 30, 2018

Citing “levels of corruption” grave enough to threaten the survival of the sport, Condoleezza Rice and her NCAA-appointed Commission on College Basketball have proposed reforms that aim to “put the ‘college’ back in college basketball.” They hope to do this by cracking down on corruption, reducing the flow of illicit money into players’ hands and fortifying the National College Athletic Association’s punitive powers.

But like previous reform attempts, the commission’s approach is intended to shore up the current model of college athletics rather than solve the fundamental problem. Corruption in college sports is merely one consequence of their outsize role, which has grown to the point of undermining universities’ core commitments to truth, discovery and free inquiry.

The experience of one basketball-crazed school, the University of North Carolina, shows how prioritizing sports can negatively affect athletes’ academic lives—along with the administrative culture that helps to shape those lives. Between 1993 and 2011, athletes made up about half the students enrolled in hundreds of nonexistent classes, earning high grades for minimal work submitted to a departmental secretary. A 2014 landmark report detailed the scheme. Yet the university has resisted owning up to its failure.

While under investigation by the NCAA in 2017, UNC leaders simply denied that the university had engaged in conduct that met the NCAA’s definition of fraud, twisting the organization’s bylaws. The chancellor had apologized in 2015 for the university’s fraudulent behavior while seeking to retain UNC’s academic accreditation, but she explained to the NCAA two years later that the written confession had been a “typo.” By denying reality and daring the NCAA to call its bluff, the university escaped punishment for offering sham classes.


As these events unfolded, I co-authored a book that chronicled UNC’s handling of its scandal and placed the story in the context of the relationship between academics and athletics. Later, I developed a history course on big-time college sports. In that course, students learned about the conflicts of interest that had defined intercollegiate athletics from their beginning in the 19th century. They read about how the prime beneficiaries of college sports—coaches, university presidents, alumni and governing boards, the NCAA—had created a system that kept money rolling in but kept athletes always disadvantaged. They learned about the long-term origins of the systematic educational fraud that the UNC case exemplified.

UNC administrators, and the boosters to whom they answer, were not pleased about the new course. (When the athletic director heard about it, he insisted that he teach it in my place.) The course had flown under the radar of academic administrators in 2016, but when they discovered that I planned to teach it again in 2017, they intervened to suppress it.

The dean of the College of Arts and Sciences, a longtime friend to athletics, pressured the chairman of the history department to yank my course from the schedule. He made ominous noises about the history department being “over-resourced.” He asked the chairman to consider whether it was “strategic” for the course to be offered. He ended by saying, “This is not a threat”—but it would be a bad idea for the department to schedule the course in 2017. The department chairman told me to find something else to teach.

After a nine-month battle, administrators relented and allowed the course to be taught this spring. That news came days after I had submitted a formal grievance to the faculty committee charged with enforcing the rules of faculty governance. The faculty committee decided unambiguously in my favor, scolding the dean for interfering in the scheduling of a course that happened to cover controversial issues. They called on administrators to reaffirm their support for academic freedom.

The findings of the faculty committee had no effect. Exercising their prerogative to override any faculty decision, the administrators simply rejected the recommendations. In the face of a report that highlighted administrative bullying (“this is not a threat, but”), the chancellor wrote, “I do not believe that the Dean . . . violated existing tenets for providing proper administration” of curricular programs. Since the grievance process is advisory only—a sign of the powerlessness of faculty in the modern university—administrators were free to assert that intimidation is a legitimate academic practice. Controversial courses will remain vulnerable to suppression.

It would be hard to imagine a more demoralizing example of the tail wagging the dog. UNC is a “public ivy.” Its faculty win Nobel, Pulitzer and Guggenheim awards. Since 1987, UNC ranks first among public universities in competitions for Rhodes scholarships. Chapel Hill is not the typical football factory. Yet UNC’s leaders were willing to carry water for the athletic department—even in the wake of an enormous athletic scandal. They were also willing to limit what their students could learn, threaten the academic freedom of a tenured professor, use intimidation tactics against a distinguished department, and risk the reputation of the university.

At UNC, the power of big-money sports led administrators to defend the legitimacy of fake classes that had no professor. It then led them to wage an all-out war against a real class that asked common-sense questions about sports in institutions of higher learning. The pressures that produce such warped priorities are hardly specific to UNC. Michigan, Minnesota, Washington and Syracuse, to name several recent examples, have run their own bold experiments in curricular flimflam. Nor is a tradition of success in sports a precondition for athletics-inspired corruption (Binghamton, we’re looking at you).

Before we “put the ‘college’ back in college basketball,” we need to get academic values back into college. Parents with college-bound children should ask: “Have we prepared our kids for university, and taken on huge financial burdens, so that people who worship at the altar of athletics can set their educational agenda?” If the answer is no, the time to speak up is now.

Mr. Smith is a professor of history at UNC-Chapel Hill and a co-author of “Cheated: The UNC Scandal, the Education of Athletes, and the Future of Big-Time College Sports.”
 
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