College Apps, Parental Exasperations

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College Applications, Parental Exasperations

For starters, when did finding a college turn into a modern version of the 18th-century Grand Tour?

By ROBERT SCHERRER/ Wall Street Journal

Oct. 7, 2015 6:41 p.m. ET

‘If you’re in school, stay there.” I took to heart this 1960s public-service announcement: I went away to college at 18, became a professor and never left. So when my first child applied to college, I figured I would be an expert.

Wrong. Now that child No. 3 is embroiled in college applications, I’ve been driven over the edge. How has the admissions process exasperated me? Let me count the ways:

1. College visits.​When did looking for a college turn into a modern version of the 18th-century Grand Tour? The first time I saw my college was when my parents dropped me off to start my freshman year. Now a college search involves traipsing the width and breadth of the United States. All this, when getting information is easier than ever. My children can go online and learn the course requirements for any program at any university in a matter of minutes. They can look up the content of every class offered, and check out which ones are scheduled late enough to let them sleep until noon. So why the cross-country junkets?



The answer: the elusive idea of “fit.” A prospective student is supposed to step onto the college quad, be struck on the forehead by a ray of light, feel a sense of divine inspiration, and say: “Yes, I have found It. This is the place I belong.” Do you want to know my definition of “fit”? A good fit is a college that your parents can afford with a strong program in the field you want to study. Plus a place to buy Cheetos at midnight.

2. The college essay. In my experience, most teenagers, especially teenage boys, have all the self-awareness of a turtle. And not one of those big Galapagos tortoises. More like a box turtle you find in the middle of the road with its head pulled inside its shell. And they’re supposed to write about their inner selves? Or to answer the profound questions that have troubled humanity for the past three millennia? Sure, why not—with a little help from the college counselor, parents, the Internet. It takes a village to write a college essay, so I think the college should admit the entire village.

3. Standardized tests. People tend to forget that standardized tests were introduced to give children with fewer advantages the opportunity to compete with the products of prep schools. But the students were supposed to go into the tests “cold” and answer the questions with the information already embedded in their heads, not after they’ve attended a dozen coaching sessions.

So what do standardized tests actually predict? I know of only one correlation: Your belief in the validity of standardized tests is strongly correlated with how well you did on them. I did very well on the SATs, so I think they’re a great predictor of college performance. Although I’m still annoyed about my math score.

4. Financial aid forms. I’m grateful for the financial aid we’ve received. But I’d rather do five income-tax returns than one financial-aid form, and I’ve worked in university administration for more than a decade. Beyond the government’s Fafsa, private colleges use a special form, and then some colleges have their own forms, and of course they all need documents faxed—or do they want hard copies? And do we send those documents to the central processing office, or maybe to the individual colleges?

H&R Block is wasting its time with income-tax returns and should get into the financial-aid game. Better yet, colleges should cut out the middleman and send someone to our homes to root through our financial records in person.

5. The U.S. News & World Report race. College applicants (and their parents) obsess over the minutest gradations in rankings; it makes the characters of “Downton Abbey” look egalitarian. To be honest, I don’t think it actually makes that much difference where you go to college. Or at least not as much difference as some people would like to think.

For good students, I would estimate that about 90% of future success depends on their native talents and willingness to work hard, about 5% on the college they attend and about 5% on luck. And I think I am underestimating the luck.

Mr. Scherrer is a professor of physics and astronomy at Vanderbilt University.
 
College Applications, Parental Exasperations

For starters, when did finding a college turn into a modern version of the 18th-century Grand Tour?

By ROBERT SCHERRER/ Wall Street Journal

Oct. 7, 2015 6:41 p.m. ET

‘If you’re in school, stay there.” I took to heart this 1960s public-service announcement: I went away to college at 18, became a professor and never left. So when my first child applied to college, I figured I would be an expert.

Wrong. Now that child No. 3 is embroiled in college applications, I’ve been driven over the edge. How has the admissions process exasperated me? Let me count the ways:

1. College visits.​When did looking for a college turn into a modern version of the 18th-century Grand Tour? The first time I saw my college was when my parents dropped me off to start my freshman year. Now a college search involves traipsing the width and breadth of the United States. All this, when getting information is easier than ever. My children can go online and learn the course requirements for any program at any university in a matter of minutes. They can look up the content of every class offered, and check out which ones are scheduled late enough to let them sleep until noon. So why the cross-country junkets?



The answer: the elusive idea of “fit.” A prospective student is supposed to step onto the college quad, be struck on the forehead by a ray of light, feel a sense of divine inspiration, and say: “Yes, I have found It. This is the place I belong.” Do you want to know my definition of “fit”? A good fit is a college that your parents can afford with a strong program in the field you want to study. Plus a place to buy Cheetos at midnight.

2. The college essay. In my experience, most teenagers, especially teenage boys, have all the self-awareness of a turtle. And not one of those big Galapagos tortoises. More like a box turtle you find in the middle of the road with its head pulled inside its shell. And they’re supposed to write about their inner selves? Or to answer the profound questions that have troubled humanity for the past three millennia? Sure, why not—with a little help from the college counselor, parents, the Internet. It takes a village to write a college essay, so I think the college should admit the entire village.

3. Standardized tests. People tend to forget that standardized tests were introduced to give children with fewer advantages the opportunity to compete with the products of prep schools. But the students were supposed to go into the tests “cold” and answer the questions with the information already embedded in their heads, not after they’ve attended a dozen coaching sessions.

So what do standardized tests actually predict? I know of only one correlation: Your belief in the validity of standardized tests is strongly correlated with how well you did on them. I did very well on the SATs, so I think they’re a great predictor of college performance. Although I’m still annoyed about my math score.

4. Financial aid forms. I’m grateful for the financial aid we’ve received. But I’d rather do five income-tax returns than one financial-aid form, and I’ve worked in university administration for more than a decade. Beyond the government’s Fafsa, private colleges use a special form, and then some colleges have their own forms, and of course they all need documents faxed—or do they want hard copies? And do we send those documents to the central processing office, or maybe to the individual colleges?

H&R Block is wasting its time with income-tax returns and should get into the financial-aid game. Better yet, colleges should cut out the middleman and send someone to our homes to root through our financial records in person.

5. The U.S. News & World Report race. College applicants (and their parents) obsess over the minutest gradations in rankings; it makes the characters of “Downton Abbey” look egalitarian. To be honest, I don’t think it actually makes that much difference where you go to college. Or at least not as much difference as some people would like to think.

For good students, I would estimate that about 90% of future success depends on their native talents and willingness to work hard, about 5% on the college they attend and about 5% on luck. And I think I am underestimating the luck.

Mr. Scherrer is a professor of physics and astronomy at Vanderbilt University.

It's easy to largely agree with the premise of this essay. Even over the course of ten years and 3 kids, the third search for us involved visiting many schools and a deep internet dive into dozens of schools across the country. The scrutiny from first to third child increased dramatically. Reflecting on my own SJU experience, I went here for a major offered only one other place in NYC, and SJU was the closest. I don't think I even set foot on campus (besides one SJU game when I was 15) before my first day of classes (orientation wasn't even a thought then). But there is a flip side also within bounds:

1) The fit: I know this brilliant kid, a straight laced guy who went to a local Catholic HS. He visited a very liberal ivy, where he had been offered acceptance. The girl who led the tour had a shaved head, multiple piercings, and when asked about the school's drug policy, told the parents and student how strict the school was about those things, and then in a very presumptuous way, turned and whispered to the student "But I can get you anything you want." The kid told his parents he had seen enough, and left. He ultimately chose Georgetown, where after a great 4 years, was accepted to med school. For our 3rd search, some schools felt right, others didn't. Some schools have a sense of order, of school spirit, others of chaos and an air that the rah-rah college atmosphere is so 1950s. Neither position is right or wrong, but there is a place your kid may thrive and be able to be a college kid.

2) The college essay. He is dead on. The essay has become so important in a school's evaluation of a student, and there is an incredible amount of assistance for HS students in writing a good one. I know a 20 something kid who was an 800 verbal SAT who has a business helping kids prepare for SAT/ACTs and to help write their essay.

3) Standardized tests. Today, junior year in HS for college bound students is incredibly stressful, especially in the NYC area, where SAT/ACT prep time adds hundreds of hours to the academic load. I've been told that some schools around the country devalue NYC area test scores because they presume that kid had the benefit of prepping hard for the standardized test with tutors and prep courses where kids in Wyoming don't

4) Financial Aid forms - FAFSA. Is such an intrusion, our accountant told us, you aren't getting any help, so don't stress over it. I filed false information because I knew we wouldn't get any aid, and the info wasn't anyone's business if I was paying full boat tuition.

5) College rankings: Do mean something, absolutely. Princeton is crammed with amazingly bright kids, a top notch faculty, and whether the school is great because it has great students or great faculty is a chicken and egg story. Higher ranked school generally have more kids that are extremely bright (academically at least). But, as I've said before, brilliant kids make the school, and not the other way around. A brilliant kid will fly high anywhere, and the impact of the school on his success is not as great as you would think.

On the other hand, even academic success isn't an automatic predictor of career success. At SJU I had some classmates who could kill it on a biochemistry exam, but didn't retain all that they learned, and who had so many missing pieces in their personal makeup that they floundered in their careers. I also have a relative who barely made it out of HS, yet is killing it on Wall Street. One of SJUs most successful alumni was an example of that - a kid who struggled mightily academically who is absolutely brilliant in business.

The author fails to mention of course, that his own choice of employment is one of the top schools in the US (ranked about #15 or 16). Does he think he could teach physics and astronomy at the same level at a community college?
 
College Applications, Parental Exasperations

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Mr. Scherrer is a professor of physics and astronomy at Vanderbilt University.

Parent indulges child. Parent writes an op ed expressing exasperation at child being indulged. Parent blames exasperation on industry in which he has made his career.

Fortunately he's an academic so that his complete lack of self awareness won't affect the real world.
 
College Applications, Parental Exasperations

[...]

Mr. Scherrer is a professor of physics and astronomy at Vanderbilt University.

Parent indulges child. Parent writes an op ed expressing exasperation at child being indulged. Parent blames exasperation on industry in which he has made his career.

Fortunately he's an academic so that his complete lack of self awareness won't affect the real world.

True, until he accepts a Federal Government appointment.
 
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