Big East May Lose Automatic NCAA Bid

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 According to the ESPN article below, to receive an automatic bid, a conference must meet several requirements: It must be composed of at least seven members that offer men's and women's basketball, and there must be continuity in membership, meaning that seven of the members must have played together for at least eight years. St. John's, Seton Hall, Providence, Georgetown, & Villanova, have been together for more than 8 years but that is clearly not 7 schools. Whether we like it or not, we may need the football schools to avoid losing our automatic bid.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...source=bleacherreport.com&utm_medium=referral
 
 When was the last time it mattered if the BE had an automatic bid or not? Really, who cares. If it gets to that I'll officially join CRGreen as a UCLA fan. If I do that I can even go to a few games a year.
 
You may be right but I am thinking down the road. Not having SU & Pitt each year will affect us in terms of RPI, imagine if UConn & West Virginia also leave. There are not many schools out there that can replace schools like those 4. Of course the other side of the coin is that we schedule tougher non conference games & those schools may fall off when those Hall of Famers retire.
 
You may be right but I am thinking down the road. Not having SU & Pitt each year will affect us in terms of RPI, imagine if UConn & West Virginia also leave. There are not many schools out there that can replace schools like those 4. Of course the other side of the coin is that we schedule tougher non conference games & those schools may fall off when those Hall of Famers retire.
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if you think ant harder your brain may explode! ridiculous thread!
 
 So ridiculous that ESPN wrote an article about it.
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NYC, that is not what the article was about! It was about the BB schools uniting. The auto-bid comments were left-field worst case scenario That assumed every football school left, including Nova! Hogwash! By the time the 27 month notification kicks in all the remaining schools will have been together from 1995 or much earlier. Poof goes the 8 year argument! If Pitt and Syracuse want out a year earlier the monetary penalty would more than make up the financial implication of losing ONE bid when, in fact, 4 or more of the remaining schools would likely get NCAA bids anyway. Another stupid argument was who would retain the visible Big East name. I laughed my ass off at that since the football schools were the LAST schools to enter the league and if schools voluntary LEAVE a conference even my dog knows you have no right to take the conference name with you! Since the schools would have to join at least 3 different existing conferences that hypothesis was asinine! Finally, where does everyone think they are going? It is quite likely that NONE of the "raiding" football predator conferences will expand any further this year so the 27 Month departure window starts all over again NEXT year. Where does that leave schools like Rutgers, Uconvicts, UWV and Villanova that applied to the ACC? With mucho EGG on their faces and tails between their legs in the Big East. 
 
DePaul and Marquette joined in 2005, so by the time a new alignment was in play then they would qualify for the continuity clause. And you can always count Notre Dame in as long as its football team is independent.

DePaul
Georgetown
Marquette
Providence
St. John's
Seton Hall
Notre Dame
Nova (No. 8 because no one will take then in a BCS conference outside of the current Big East mix).

You could easily start a conference with an auto bid there, even if Nova isn't included. 
 
I know what the article was about but as you said, there was discussion in the article about a scenario where the Big East may lose its automatic bid. This is a message/chat board for discussions about St. John's basketball. I found the article interesting, I decided to post it here just for discussion, man....what was I thinking? The way people respond on this site sometimes to just discussion topics is unreal.
 So ridiculous that ESPN wrote an article about it.
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NYC, that is not what the article was about! It was about the BB schools uniting. The auto-bid comments were left-field worst case scenario That assumed every football school left, including Nova! Hogwash! By the time the 27 month notification kicks in all the remaining schools will have been together from 1995 or much earlier. Poof goes the 8 year argument! If Pitt and Syracuse want out a year earlier the monetary penalty would more than make up the financial implication of losing ONE bid when, in fact, 4 or more of the remaining schools would likely get NCAA bids anyway. Another stupid argument was who would retain the visible Big East name. I laughed my ass off at that since the football schools were the LAST schools to enter the league and if schools voluntary LEAVE a conference even my dog knows you have no right to take the conference name with you! Since the schools would have to join at least 3 different existing conferences that hypothesis was asinine! Finally, where does everyone think they are going? It is quite likely that NONE of the "raiding" football predator conferences will expand any further this year so the 27 Month departure window starts all over again NEXT year. Where does that leave schools like Rutgers, Uconvicts, UWV and Villanova that applied to the ACC? With mucho EGG on their faces and tails between their legs in the Big East. 
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I know what the article was about but as you said, there was discussion in the article about a scenario where the Big East may lose its automatic bid. This is a message/chat board for discussions about St. John's basketball. I found the article interesting, I decided to post it here just for discussion, man....what was I thinking? The way people respond on this site sometimes to just discussion topics is unreal.
 So ridiculous that ESPN wrote an article about it.
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NYC, that is not what the article was about! It was about the BB schools uniting. The auto-bid comments were left-field worst case scenario That assumed every football school left, including Nova! Hogwash! By the time the 27 month notification kicks in all the remaining schools will have been together from 1995 or much earlier. Poof goes the 8 year argument! If Pitt and Syracuse want out a year earlier the monetary penalty would more than make up the financial implication of losing ONE bid when, in fact, 4 or more of the remaining schools would likely get NCAA bids anyway. Another stupid argument was who would retain the visible Big East name. I laughed my ass off at that since the football schools were the LAST schools to enter the league and if schools voluntary LEAVE a conference even my dog knows you have no right to take the conference name with you! Since the schools would have to join at least 3 different existing conferences that hypothesis was asinine! Finally, where does everyone think they are going? It is quite likely that NONE of the "raiding" football predator conferences will expand any further this year so the 27 Month departure window starts all over again NEXT year. Where does that leave schools like Rutgers, Uconvicts, UWV and Villanova that applied to the ACC? With mucho EGG on their faces and tails between their legs in the Big East. 
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I did not mean to offend you NYCRed but the article by the writer was "Time for BE BB schools to Unite". Your thread was entitled "Big East may lose Automatic NCAA Bid ". Too many folks here expend too much energy on the negatives.
 
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