A speculation about our rebounding record

redmaninalbany

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I had this admittedly speculative thought about our poor rebounding last year...it startled me about 2/3s of the way through that season. I started to wonder if our terrible offensive rebounding was an area where the staff concluded not to fight the "tape", i.e. given our small size and bulk, we effectively conceded on the offensive boards.

My speculation is they trained the team to fight the instinct to attack the offensive boards when a teammate shot. Instead, the coaches urged them to head back on defense with the shot. That is, don't worry about offensive rebounds unless you are already in a decent position to get a rebound....for example: on the far side of the rim when a shot came from the opposite corner, or unless you already had inside position,.

I appreciate teams need at least one guard dropping back quickly to avoid the long pass, fast break layups. But this was far more dominant a pattern. Did the staff conclude chances are you aren't getting the rebound anyway against bigger, taller teams, so let's avoid fouls and get back on defense? Rather than risk that our few bigs, "frequent foulers" already, would pick up more "over the back" fouls. it seemed to me, on a high percentage of plays, all the non-shooters just turned and headed back on defense as the shot went up. It seemed we hardly ever crashed the boards; we simply conceded offense rebounds.
The passivity in attacking seemed too obvious and repetitive not to be planned...or it would have been reprimanded. Once I had the thought about avoiding fouling, it seemed to explain a lot. (We did provide a lot of group rebounding on defense).
I could be way off base, but this was a team with little depth especially underneath. It may explain a modest portion of the low offensive rebounding numbers. I lot of the offensive boards we did get came from the shooter getting their own rebound. No-one seemed the least bit concerned they would get reprimanded for not attacking the offensive boards and
not fighting for position.
Anyway, the implication is that with more depth this year, and IF the above was deliberate, we may see a lot more aggressiveness on the offensive boards next season because we have more depth and can afford the risk of increased fouls from fighting on the boards.
Am I trying to hard to find an excuse for our pathetic stats or is this plausible?
 
[quote="redmaninalbany" post=287190]I had this admittedly speculative thought about our poor rebounding last year...it startled me about 2/3s of the way through that season. I started to wonder if our terrible offensive rebounding was an area where the staff concluded not to fight the "tape", i.e. given our small size and bulk, we effectively conceded on the offensive boards.

My speculation is they trained the team to fight the instinct to attack the offensive boards when a teammate shot. Instead, the coaches urged them to head back on defense with the shot. That is, don't worry about offensive rebounds unless you are already in a decent position to get a rebound....for example: on the far side of the rim when a shot came from the opposite corner, or unless you already had inside position,.

I appreciate teams need at least one guard dropping back quickly to avoid the long pass, fast break layups. But this was far more dominant a pattern. Did the staff conclude chances are you aren't getting the rebound anyway against bigger, taller teams, so let's avoid fouls and get back on defense? Rather than risk that our few bigs, "frequent foulers" already, would pick up more "over the back" fouls. it seemed to me, on a high percentage of plays, all the non-shooters just turned and headed back on defense as the shot went up. It seemed we hardly ever crashed the boards; we simply conceded offense rebounds.
The passivity in attacking seemed too obvious and repetitive not to be planned...or it would have been reprimanded. Once I had the thought about avoiding fouling, it seemed to explain a lot. (We did provide a lot of group rebounding on defense).
I could be way off base, but this was a team with little depth especially underneath. It may explain a modest portion of the low offensive rebounding numbers. I lot of the offensive boards we did get came from the shooter getting their own rebound. No-one seemed the least bit concerned they would get reprimanded for not attacking the offensive boards and
not fighting for position.
Anyway, the implication is that with more depth this year, and IF the above was deliberate, we may see a lot more aggressiveness on the offensive boards next season because we have more depth and can afford the risk of increased fouls from fighting on the boards.
Am I trying to hard to find an excuse for our pathetic stats or is this plausible?[/quote]

Actually, before Lovett went down it appeared we were getting a good number of defensive boards. I didn't check the game stats but it seemed that was the case. At a RW, I asked St. Jean why we were hitting the defensive boards so well, especially our guards. I asked whether he thought it was just great anticipation and jumping, especially by Ponds, or the fact that we run so well that the offensive guards couldn't afford to gamble and get in the mix lest we get easy layups in transition. He thought it was a great question and analysis.

Probably the opposite is true also for our team last year. Simon rebounded really well on the d boards, but we couldn't afford to have guards hit the offensive glass for the same reason - teams would take off on the break. Our bigs if you could call them that, were usually stationed 20 feet from the basket, making o rebounds impossible
 
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Nothing is ever simple but in rebounding On this I would pay attention a lot because it drives me so crazy some games but as Besst mentioned there were many times we didn’t even have a big near the basket and on offensive end sometimes our shot selection was flat out putrid. Simon is just flat out uber athletic amd gets rebounds that way. Ponds I pay attention to as well as he just has that i inate ability to know where the ball is going and is so quick and crafty he can just glide beteeen people and get rebounds
 
What we may lack in size we make up for in strength. Simon, Heron and Clark are physical and STRONG. Ponds is also a very good rebounder for someone his size. I think we'll make do on the boards.
 
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