A first in person look at McDermott

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Watching McDermott in person for the first time, as dangerous as it is to based an assessment on one game viewed in person:

1) He gets away with a lot down low. He hooks, he throws his body backwards to get space, pushes a lot. The clear out a lot for him, and using these tactics, frees himself for high percentage shots.
2) When dogged on the perimeter, is not a dribble in your face jump shooter, like Bernard King, for example. He won't be that open in the pros, so don't expect him to fill it up from outside.
3) He's an awful whiner. Every single time he hit the floor in the second half, he immediately looked at his father and screamed for Daddy to get on the refs.
4) He cannot jump. On more than one occasion, even with position, we snatched rebounds above him.

He will be a lottery pick, but this is in no way Larry Bird. He is capable of scoring 12-15 pts per game in the pros with the right team. He will not be a force down low, is not a great passer, and is slow getting up and down the court.

I'm glad that my suggestion that they guard him by committee. Sampson did a marvelous job carrying a lot of the load, Obekpa opened up on him, and both Sanchez and Pointer also did reasonably well in their turns. Nice job to hold him to 25 points, and nothing down the stretch.
 
Watching McDermott in person for the first time, as dangerous as it is to based an assessment on one game viewed in person:

1) He gets away with a lot down low. He hooks, he throws his body backwards to get space, pushes a lot. The clear out a lot for him, and using these tactics, frees himself for high percentage shots.
2) When dogged on the perimeter, is not a dribble in your face jump shooter, like Bernard King, for example. He won't be that open in the pros, so don't expect him to fill it up from outside.
3) He's an awful whiner. Every single time he hit the floor in the second half, he immediately looked at his father and screamed for Daddy to get on the refs.
4) He cannot jump. On more than one occasion, even with position, we snatched rebounds above him.

He will be a lottery pick, but this is in no way Larry Bird. He is capable of scoring 12-15 pts per game in the pros with the right team. He will not be a force down low, is not a great passer, and is slow getting up and down the court.

I'm glad that my suggestion that they guard him by committee. Sampson did a marvelous job carrying a lot of the load, Obekpa opened up on him, and both Sanchez and Pointer also did reasonably well in their turns. Nice job to hold him to 25 points, and nothing down the stretch.
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Sampson was a beast on D tonight.
 
Watching McDermott in person for the first time, as dangerous as it is to based an assessment on one game viewed in person:

1) He gets away with a lot down low. He hooks, he throws his body backwards to get space, pushes a lot. The clear out a lot for him, and using these tactics, frees himself for high percentage shots.
2) When dogged on the perimeter, is not a dribble in your face jump shooter, like Bernard King, for example. He won't be that open in the pros, so don't expect him to fill it up from outside.
3) He's an awful whiner. Every single time he hit the floor in the second half, he immediately looked at his father and screamed for Daddy to get on the refs.
4) He cannot jump. On more than one occasion, even with position, we snatched rebounds above him.

He will be a lottery pick, but this is in no way Larry Bird. He is capable of scoring 12-15 pts per game in the pros with the right team. He will not be a force down low, is not a great passer, and is slow getting up and down the court.

I'm glad that my suggestion that they guard him by committee. Sampson did a marvelous job carrying a lot of the load, Obekpa opened up on him, and both Sanchez and Pointer also did reasonably well in their turns. Nice job to hold him to 25 points, and nothing down the stretch.
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As spot on a summary as you can get...he could have had at least 3 offensive fouls while attempting to create space...The 3 blind mice refused to call any of them...and yes, he whines...and Sampson played like a man tonight...

Tonight we played like a team wanting to win rather than a collection of talented kids wanting to have their moments...
 
Watching McDermott in person for the first time, as dangerous as it is to based an assessment on one game viewed in person:

1) He gets away with a lot down low. He hooks, he throws his body backwards to get space, pushes a lot. The clear out a lot for him, and using these tactics, frees himself for high percentage shots.
2) When dogged on the perimeter, is not a dribble in your face jump shooter, like Bernard King, for example. He won't be that open in the pros, so don't expect him to fill it up from outside.
3) He's an awful whiner. Every single time he hit the floor in the second half, he immediately looked at his father and screamed for Daddy to get on the refs.
4) He cannot jump. On more than one occasion, even with position, we snatched rebounds above him.

He will be a lottery pick, but this is in no way Larry Bird. He is capable of scoring 12-15 pts per game in the pros with the right team. He will not be a force down low, is not a great passer, and is slow getting up and down the court.

I'm glad that my suggestion that they guard him by committee. Sampson did a marvelous job carrying a lot of the load, Obekpa opened up on him, and both Sanchez and Pointer also did reasonably well in their turns. Nice job to hold him to 25 points, and nothing down the stretch.
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I think McDermott is a Mullin type and will very well in the pros
 
I am just thrilled he stayed the extra year. He is a tremendous asset to this conference, and his value both this year and going forward should not be taken lightly . He'll win the Naismith Award and that will be only the second time a player has won from the Big East (Mark Aguirre and Butch Lee won for DePaul and Marquette prior to joining the Big East).
 
I am just thrilled he stayed the extra year. He is a tremendous asset to this conference, and his value both this year and going forward should not be taken lightly . He'll win the Naismith Award and that will be only the second time a player has won from the Big East (Mark Aguirre and Butch Lee won for DePaul and Marquette prior to joining the Big East).
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Agree with your post. One of the best college players I ever saw was Scott May of Indiana. However, he didn't have enough of anything to be more than a marginal pro. I just don't see McDermott having the physical ability to be dominant in the pros the way he is in college. If I'm wrong, then good for him. He did prove to be a very heady player, and Creighton screens you to death. Well disciplined on offense, and will be a tough out for most D1 teams.
 
I am just thrilled he stayed the extra year. He is a tremendous asset to this conference, and his value both this year and going forward should not be taken lightly . He'll win the Naismith Award and that will be only the second time a player has won from the Big East (Mark Aguirre and Butch Lee won for DePaul and Marquette prior to joining the Big East).
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Agree with your post. One of the best college players I ever saw was Scott May of Indiana. However, he didn't have enough of anything to be more than a marginal pro. I just don't see McDermott having the physical ability to be dominant in the pros the way he is in college. If I'm wrong, then good for him. He did prove to be a very heady player, and Creighton screens you to death. Well disciplined on offense, and will be a tough out for most D1 teams.
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I don't think he'll be dominant, but he scores in so many different ways that I can't imagine him not doing well when he's not a focal point of every single defense. He'll be facing single coverage every game as a second or third option.
 
"1) He gets away with a lot down low. He hooks, he throws his body backwards to get space, pushes a lot. The clear out a lot for him, and using these tactics, frees himself for high percentage shots."

Sounds like he has his fundamentals down and he knows what to do.
"2) When dogged on the perimeter, is not a dribble in your face jump shooter, like Bernard King, for example. He won't be that open in the pros, so don't expect him to fill it up from outside."

He will be that open in the pros. If he can get that open in college when everyone knows he in the #1 option, how in the world will he not be able to get open in the nba when he is at best #3 coming in
"3) He's an awful whiner. Every single time he hit the floor in the second half, he immediately looked at his father and screamed for Daddy to get on the refs."

Agreed he does whine like a little B


"4) He cannot jump. On more than one occasion, even with position, we snatched rebounds above him."

He showed good hops to me

"He will be a lottery pick, but this is in no way Larry Bird. He is capable of scoring 12-15 pts per game in the pros with the right team. He will not be a force down low, is not a great passer, and is slow getting up and down the court."

Was Larry bird not slow getting up and down the court? You are comparing the to bird? One of the best all time? 12-15 a game is good. Kid is a major player and by far the best player in the big east.
 
This kid impresses me with his fundamentals. He knows how to use his body down low. Some of the stuff he does to ward off defenders is illegal but actually most of it is just the product of him knowing how to exploit defenders.

Btw we held him to 25 tonight, did you see how many bunnies he missed? Not to mention on a key possession under 2 mins he was wide open under the hoop amd his teammate opted to hoist a contested 3. He could have easily dropped another 39 but was missing shots he normally doesn't. Very glad he had an "off night."

I did notice he looked at his father every single time he hit the deck or wanted a foul. It was a petulant display and it occurred numerous times, made me think less of him for sure.
 
I did notice he looked at his father every single time he hit the deck or wanted a foul. It was a petulant display and it occurred numerous times, made me think less of him for sure.
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He was probably taught at an early age not to talk back to officials. A lot of coaches demand their players talk to the refs through them.
 
I did notice he looked at his father every single time he hit the deck or wanted a foul. It was a petulant display and it occurred numerous times, made me think less of him for sure.
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He was probably taught at an early age not to talk back to officials. A lot of coaches demand their players talk to the refs through them.
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I thought about that for certain, but it was also evidence more of a father-son coach-player relationship. It was either an "I didn't mess up, I was fouled" plea to his father, or "Tell the refs I'm getting murdered" plea. Either way, his father was quick to question the refs calls every time McD hit the ground. No way every player gets the privilege, and in the pros McDermott won't. At his size he won't be isolating bigger, quicker and stronger NBA forwards the way he was posting our guys all night. He does pick and roll very well.

I have never seen such prolonged video reviews in my life. The flagrant foul call on Obekpa on his missed FT rebound was one, and without video review, was not apparent at all. The second was reversing the out of bounds call late. If you cannot easily determine that the refs initial call was wrong, why reverse it?
 
Watching McDermott in person for the first time, as dangerous as it is to based an assessment on one game viewed in person:

1) He gets away with a lot down low. He hooks, he throws his body backwards to get space, pushes a lot. The clear out a lot for him, and using these tactics, frees himself for high percentage shots.
2) When dogged on the perimeter, is not a dribble in your face jump shooter, like Bernard King, for example. He won't be that open in the pros, so don't expect him to fill it up from outside.
3) He's an awful whiner. Every single time he hit the floor in the second half, he immediately looked at his father and screamed for Daddy to get on the refs.
4) He cannot jump. On more than one occasion, even with position, we snatched rebounds above him.

He will be a lottery pick, but this is in no way Larry Bird. He is capable of scoring 12-15 pts per game in the pros with the right team. He will not be a force down low, is not a great passer, and is slow getting up and down the court.

I'm glad that my suggestion that they guard him by committee. Sampson did a marvelous job carrying a lot of the load, Obekpa opened up on him, and both Sanchez and Pointer also did reasonably well in their turns. Nice job to hold him to 25 points, and nothing down the stretch.
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I think McDermott is a Mullin type and will very well in the pros
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They are two very different players. Mullin was in no way as physical. McDermott is the first, second, and third option for Creighton. They run play after play after play for him. Mullin let the game come to him, and made everyone around him better. He scored an easy 20 points per game, and if he was out of a different mold, would have scored 27 or 28 ppg. I don't think we've ever had a 2 guard who could pass like Mullin - I'm not sure anyone has - and I've never seen a scorer other than Bird who made the spectacular pass so frequently. McDermott would be a great collegian for any program, but like any kid who plays for his father, the team is focused on him.

To those who say he uses his body well down low, I'd agree he does. I'd also say that in no way would Sampson, or Pointer, or Sanchez, or Obekpa not have been whistled 5 times for offensive fouls had they posted up with the same tactics.
 
Hey Frank

Mullen played 29 years ago. The game has changed over those 3 decades. It is not fair comparing MeDermott to Mullen any more than it would be to compare Mullen to Cousey and other older timers.

The reality is there is nothing not to like about either McDermott or Mullen; both great players.
 
Hey Frank

Mullen played 29 years ago. The game has changed over those 3 decades. It is not fair comparing MeDermott to Mullen any more than it would be to compare Mullen to Cousey and other older timers.

The reality is there is nothing not to like about either McDermott or Mullen; both great players.
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Hey Otis,

Mullin retired in 2001, only 13 seasons ago. He was contemporary of Michael Jordan. His game was good enough to make both HOFs. If he played today, he'd play exactly the same, and be HOF again. So would West, Robertson, Chamberlain, Russell, Baylor, Erving, Jordan, and a slew of others. Make your comments about Jordan playing 29 years ago and see how foolish they would sound.

Frank wasn't bashing McDermott - he was simply responding to an earlier post saying that McDermott was a very similar player to Mullin.
 
Hey East

Hey "The" do the math.

2014 ..... The year McDermott is playing college basketball
minus
1985 .......The year Mr. Mullin last played college basketball
 
what is this need to crap on McDermott. Guy is a great player period. You know when you beat a guy and then knock his ability that takes away from your win. What's better beating a great player or a guy that isn't that good?
 
The guy did get away with a lot of contact. It's not that he won't be able to do that it in the pros, but he won't be physically strong enough to do that in the pros. He still reminds me of Wally in how he can score from the outside, inside, or driving. He has a knack to score and will play a long time in the pro's making a ton of money in his career. But he also did look like a crybaby (as did a number of their players). This isn't the MVC conference this is the big east. Get used to the physicality.
 
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