1987 vs. Gtown

[SJU61982]

Another ESPN Classic broadcast. Probably Mark Jackson's best game in an SJU uniform. Does not show the whole game, but you get most of it. You're going to have to turn the volume up all the way to hear.

 

[MainMan]

I know these are our golden years, but it drives me crazy seeing how Louie and co. never took advantage of those Mullin years to recruit. Outside of WIllie Glass, what a woefully weak supporting cast Mark Jackson had that year.

 

[redken]

I know these are our golden years, but it drives me crazy seeing how Louie and co. never took advantage of those Mullin years to recruit. Outside of WIllie Glass, what a woefully weak supporting cast Mark Jackson had that year.

Could've/should've had Gary Payton as his backcourt mate ... although Looie probably would've had him behind Steve Shurina in his depth chart. (Shelton Jones was on that team as well.)

 

[capmaker]

My recollection was that Louie lost his top 3 targets of a prior class to PJ at the Hall: John Morton, Gerald Greene, and Daryl Walker.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/seton-hall/1989.html

 

[SJU61982]

I know these are our golden years, but it drives me crazy seeing how Louie and co. never took advantage of those Mullin years to recruit. Outside of WIllie Glass, what a woefully weak supporting cast Mark Jackson had that year.

Could've/should've had Gary Payton as his backcourt mate ... although Looie probably would've had him behind Steve Shurina in his depth chart. (Shelton Jones was on that team as well.)

I believe that Jayson Williams sat out this season as a victim of the late, not-so-great, Prop 48.

Also, didn't Walter Berry declare for the NBA very, very late in the game? There was almost no time to recover from that.

 

[redken]

Reggie Williams aside, Georgetown didn't have a particularly strong team that year as well.

(Seeing Al Lobalbo, I think it's apparent who inspired Donald Trump's hairdo.)

 

[MainMan]

I know these are our golden years, but it drives me crazy seeing how Louie and co. never took advantage of those Mullin years to recruit. Outside of WIllie Glass, what a woefully weak supporting cast Mark Jackson had that year.

Could've/should've had Gary Payton as his backcourt mate ... although Looie probably would've had him behind Steve Shurina in his depth chart. (Shelton Jones was on that team as well.)

I believe that Jayson Williams sat out this season as a victim of the late, not-so-great, Prop 48.

Also, didn't Walter Berry declare for the NBA very, very late in the game? There was almost no time to recover from that.

Berry leaving hurt. So too was never recruiting a reliable backup. I mean Terry f'ing Bross was our starting center the next year.

Our haul during the later Mullin/Berry/Jackson years consisted of guys who were never BE players: John Hempel, Marco Baldi, Marcus Broadnax, Evander Lewis, Kevin Fitzpatrick, Steve Shurina, Terry Bross, Darrel Aiken, Barry Milhaven, Sean Muto.

Players who never made it on campus or lost significant parts of their careers to academics: Moses Scurry, Michael Porter.

The best of the bunch were Jayson Williams (a complete diamond in the rough and prop 48), Matt Brust (a decent transfer-in), Billy Singleton (a good role player, still prop 48) and Boo Harvey (who still had to sit out a year and disrupt everything.)

It wasn't until 1988 when they reeled in Sealy, Werdann, Buchanan, etc that there was some stability in the years ahead.

Most programs use the momentum of a Final Four to make waves on the recruiting trail.

Instead, Louie got lazy.

 

[Class of 72]

I know these are our golden years, but it drives me crazy seeing how Louie and co. never took advantage of those Mullin years to recruit. Outside of WIllie Glass, what a woefully weak supporting cast Mark Jackson had that year.

Could've/should've had Gary Payton as his backcourt mate ... although Looie probably would've had him behind Steve Shurina in his depth chart. (Shelton Jones was on that team as well.)

I believe that Jayson Williams sat out this season as a victim of the late, not-so-great, Prop 48.

Also, didn't Walter Berry declare for the NBA very, very late in the game? There was almost no time to recover from that.

Berry leaving hurt. So too was never recruiting a reliable backup. I mean Terry f'ing Bross was our starting center the next year.

Our haul during the later Mullin/Berry/Jackson years consisted of guys who were never BE players: John Hempel, Marco Baldi, Marcus Broadnax, Evander Lewis, Kevin Fitzpatrick, Steve Shurina, Terry Bross, Darrel Aiken, Barry Milhaven, Sean Muto.

Players who never made it on campus or lost significant parts of their careers to academics: Moses Scurry, Michael Porter.

The best of the bunch were Jayson Williams (a complete diamond in the rough and prop 48), Matt Brust (a decent transfer-in), Billy Singleton (a good role player, still prop 48) and Boo Harvey (who still had to sit out a year and disrupt everything.)

It wasn't until 1988 when they reeled in Sealy, Werdann, Buchanan, etc that there was some stability in the years ahead.

Most programs use the momentum of a Final Four to make waves on the recruiting trail.

Instead, Louie got lazy.

Lou sucked as a recruiter and mutt and jeff had no concept of recruiting outside of the NY metro area. None of the three were articulate or convincing enough to snag major recruits, even in NYC. We were lucky that there were many D1 level players every year in NYC so once every 4 years we got lucky one of those kids wanted to stay local. We ran a mom and pop operation, had no practice facilities and no campus culture.
We are.....

 

[bamafan]

I know these are our golden years, but it drives me crazy seeing how Louie and co. never took advantage of those Mullin years to recruit. Outside of WIllie Glass, what a woefully weak supporting cast Mark Jackson had that year.

Could've/should've had Gary Payton as his backcourt mate ... although Looie probably would've had him behind Steve Shurina in his depth chart. (Shelton Jones was on that team as well.)

I believe that Jayson Williams sat out this season as a victim of the late, not-so-great, Prop 48.

Also, didn't Walter Berry declare for the NBA very, very late in the game? There was almost no time to recover from that.

Berry leaving hurt. So too was never recruiting a reliable backup. I mean Terry f'ing Bross was our starting center the next year.

Our haul during the later Mullin/Berry/Jackson years consisted of guys who were never BE players: John Hempel, Marco Baldi, Marcus Broadnax, Evander Lewis, Kevin Fitzpatrick, Steve Shurina, Terry Bross, Darrel Aiken, Barry Milhaven, Sean Muto.

Players who never made it on campus or lost significant parts of their careers to academics: Moses Scurry, Michael Porter.

The best of the bunch were Jayson Williams (a complete diamond in the rough and prop 48), Matt Brust (a decent transfer-in), Billy Singleton (a good role player, still prop 48) and Boo Harvey (who still had to sit out a year and disrupt everything.)

It wasn't until 1988 when they reeled in Sealy, Werdann, Buchanan, etc that there was some stability in the years ahead.

Most programs use the momentum of a Final Four to make waves on the recruiting trail.

Instead, Louie got lazy.

That's Hugh Barry Milhaven to you Fella!

 

[redken]

I know these are our golden years, but it drives me crazy seeing how Louie and co. never took advantage of those Mullin years to recruit. Outside of WIllie Glass, what a woefully weak supporting cast Mark Jackson had that year.

Could've/should've had Gary Payton as his backcourt mate ... although Looie probably would've had him behind Steve Shurina in his depth chart. (Shelton Jones was on that team as well.)

I believe that Jayson Williams sat out this season as a victim of the late, not-so-great, Prop 48.

Also, didn't Walter Berry declare for the NBA very, very late in the game? There was almost no time to recover from that.

Berry leaving hurt. So too was never recruiting a reliable backup. I mean Terry f'ing Bross was our starting center the next year.

Our haul during the later Mullin/Berry/Jackson years consisted of guys who were never BE players: John Hempel, Marco Baldi, Marcus Broadnax, Evander Lewis, Kevin Fitzpatrick, Steve Shurina, Terry Bross, Darrel Aiken, Barry Milhaven, Sean Muto.

Players who never made it on campus or lost significant parts of their careers to academics: Moses Scurry, Michael Porter.

The best of the bunch were Jayson Williams (a complete diamond in the rough and prop 48), Matt Brust (a decent transfer-in), Billy Singleton (a good role player, still prop 48) and Boo Harvey (who still had to sit out a year and disrupt everything.)

It wasn't until 1988 when they reeled in Sealy, Werdann, Buchanan, etc that there was some stability in the years ahead.

Most programs use the momentum of a Final Four to make waves on the recruiting trail.

Instead, Louie got lazy.

And according to Sealy's HS coach, he was sure thing for Providence until Pitino left for the NBA.

Edit: HS coach was quoted as saying, "He was Rick's kid."

 

[GardenCity62]

I don't recall when Pitino announced he was leaving Prov but I reall attending the BET that year and a rumor was going around MSG that Calipari had told Sealy that Looie had cancer . I believe Calipari was a Pitt ass't.

 

[paultzman]

I don't recall when Pitino announced he was leaving Prov but I reall attending the BET that year and a rumor was going around MSG that Calipari had told Sealy that Looie had cancer . I believe Calipari was a Pitt ass't.

That rumor had to do with Bobby Martin from Atlantic City who we lost to Pitt w Cal main recruiter.

 

[redken]

I don't recall when Pitino announced he was leaving Prov but I reall attending the BET that year and a rumor was going around MSG that Calipari had told Sealy that Looie had cancer . I believe Calipari was a Pitt ass't.

That rumor had to do with Bobby Martin from Atlantic City who we lost to Pitt w Cal main recruiter.

Regarding your latest avatar: Is Fred Hill joining our staff?

 

[paultzman]

I don't recall when Pitino announced he was leaving Prov but I reall attending the BET that year and a rumor was going around MSG that Calipari had told Sealy that Looie had cancer . I believe Calipari was a Pitt ass't.

That rumor had to do with Bobby Martin from Atlantic City who we lost to Pitt w Cal main recruiter.

Regarding your latest avatar: Is Fred Hill joining our staff?

Of course not, just featured for next game.