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I’m 55 Boyer before my time but I became a 3rd baseman because of Nettles originally before I started pitching
Have worked for decades with people and companies in Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida not to mention many of the other 46 states and European countries.
Natives or transplants, everywhere people are people, everywhere there nice ones and a$$holes, from every region, nation, race or gender, even France.
Generalizations about people are just ridiculously inane, with all due respect to all.
Natives or transplants, everywhere people are people, everywhere there nice ones and a$$holes, from every region, nation, race or gender, even France.
Generalizations about people are just ridiculously inane, with all due respect to all.
Fair enough. Anyone south of Philly is a southerner to most of us.
Good point Logen. I know you are not a Springsteen fan but my wife is a huge fan and whenever this subject comes up (I.e. generalizing about groups whether geographical, ethnic whatever) she always refers back to a 60 Minutes interview he did about 15 years ago where he said something close to “I’ve been all over the world in the last 20 years and what I can tell you is there are aholes and good people everywhere”.
I for one was shocked when meeting Jack Williams for the first time him being from Delaware that he wasn’t wearing overalls with a straw hat and a southern accent
And he was wearing shoes.I for one was shocked when meeting Jack Williams for the first time him being from Delaware that he wasn’t wearing overalls with a straw hat and a southern accent
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I lived and worked in Delaware for a spell. The people had no definable identity. 30 south of Philly and 30 minutes north of the Mason Dixon Line. They weren't from the Northeast nor were they southern. I dubbed the place Dela-nowhere. And Delawhere?And he was wearing shoes.
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Since this is way off topic already... when I was working, my boss lived in Wilmington, took Amtrak up every morning and got into the office between 7:30 and 8 every day at Park and 47th. I lived in Queens and it was a chore to to get me there at 8:15.
But he originally was from CT, went to school at Delaware and stayed.
But I hope the OP has a good time in NYC.
Let's be real. The Klan was strong in the south, lynchings occurred mostly in the south, and the lack of racial integration occurred more prevalently in the south. Adolph Rupp refused to play against st johns unless Solly walker was benched. When Frank McGuire said i'll take the forfeit win, Rupp had his players injure Walker. Fans overall said boo. When blacks were given the vote, immediately there were more elected black legislators than at ant time in our history. Southern states then redistricted so there was almost none. Jackie Robinson had the hardest time dealing with hatred from southern players, Dixie Walker notably.
That's not to paint with a wide brush but to think there historically has not been prevalent animosities in various places in the country is just putting your head in the sand. Thankfully, certain groups that were not even protected classes 20 years ago are slowly being accepted. But we have a long way to go.
So yes, there are good people everywhere but there are also certain realities being from new york that you msy surprise you.
You just brought back a lot of old memories 35+ years ago of the hell White Chocolate had to go through to earn playing time on the hard courts of the mean streets of Glen Cove
Nonsense, we are talking about NOW not “historically”.
Adolph Rupp?? A man who quit coaching over 50 years ago!! If that’s the best you got you just proved our point.
And Jackie Robinson and Dixie Walker were even longer ago than that. And I guess Pee Wee Reese, from Kentucky, openly supporting Robinson is irrelevant because he doesn’t fit your narrative.
But it does add credence to our point that there are “good” (Reese) and “a$$holes” (Walker) people everywhere, even “historically”.
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I can’t answer that because I never saw Boyer play and I know he can’t because he is younger than me.
I know there are very few here that go back to the Brooklyn Dodgers . New York Giants days of the 1950’s.
The Dodgers had a 3 rd Baseman , Billy Cox who was considered the best glove in the National League , in fact maybe all of Baseball .
He didn’t have a long career in the Majors but , he was a wizard with the Glove
Think of that Dodger infield , Cox on 3 rd, Reese SS, Jackie at 2 nd base and Gil Hodges at 1 st .
3 HOF players in the same infield . That didnt happen often .
The Dodgers had a 3 rd Baseman , Billy Cox who was considered the best glove in the National League , in fact maybe all of Baseball .
He didn’t have a long career in the Majors but , he was a wizard with the Glove
Think of that Dodger infield , Cox on 3 rd, Reese SS, Jackie at 2 nd base and Gil Hodges at 1 st .
3 HOF players in the same infield . That didnt happen often .
One correction. I'm now living in the Deep South (Florida) and the proper phrase is "Damn Yankees!".
My older sister (she is now 83) was a huge Brooklyn Dodger fan growing up in the late 40s and 50s and I definitely remember her talking bout Billy Cox being the best whenever I would later rave about Clete Boyer being a great fielding third basement in the early 60s.
Cox had retired and been traded by the Dodgers before Cleve Boyer started his Career with the Yankees .
If Billy Cox played simultaneously with Brooks Robinson , people would say Brooks Who?
Seriously , Brooks was a much better hitter than Billy .
There were very few doubles down the line with, either, Billy , Brooks or Clete in their Careers .
Actually , Clete’s brother Ken , who played for the Cardinals was a very good 3 rd baseman too.
And , a much better hitter than Clete . So Ken was just 2 nd best in his family as a 3 td baseman .
If Billy Cox played simultaneously with Brooks Robinson , people would say Brooks Who?
Seriously , Brooks was a much better hitter than Billy .
There were very few doubles down the line with, either, Billy , Brooks or Clete in their Careers .
Actually , Clete’s brother Ken , who played for the Cardinals was a very good 3 rd baseman too.
And , a much better hitter than Clete . So Ken was just 2 nd best in his family as a 3 td baseman .
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Over the many years of being in business, I've met and do business with a lot of folks in the south and south west, they are all great.
I led into the comment by saying if you run into an unsophisticated Southerner ...but I should have phrased it differently, and said, a "small percentage of unsophisticated Southerners...who think NYers are rude, etc.....", that was what I meant. Certainly it was not a shot at all people in the South, my daughter and family live in south Florida.
The schools you named are all great schools, of course, but that is non-apropos of the point I was trying to (lamely) make.
Back in college in the 1970's (early) me and three Brooklyn guys stopped in Florence SC for teh night on our way to Daytona Beach. The clerk at the cheap motel we stayed in for the night, did ask us when he learned we were from NYC, if we "would leave our switchblades in the ve--hicle." Purely anecdotal.
Clete a notch below Brooks Robinson, Craig Nettles a notch below Clete, but both Nettles (especially) and Robinson were better hitters than Clete, as was mentioned so was his brother Ken of the Cardinals.
Here's my pecking order, taking into account hitting and fielding,
1. Brooks,
2. Nettles,
3. Ken B
4. Clete Boyer